'Easy to be an atheist if you agnore science' [moved]

HitchSlap · Aug 19, 2016

Kenny'sID said:
Then I have no answer to the question.

Exactly, and ascribing a deity to it, doesn't get us any closer to a better understanding.

You've bought into the classic god of the gaps argument, which is a fallacy. Can you at least understand why some may think it's dishonest to insert their own personal god as an explanation, when we don't have a natural answer? It only poisons the well, and doesn't bring us closer to a real understanding. Additionally, every single time that science does figure something out, it has %100 of the time not been a deity.

It's simply not enough to say, look at all this amazing phenomena I don't understand, therefore a god must be responsible.

DogmaHunter · Aug 19, 2016

AV1611VET said:
You guys don't realize it, but you're QEDing the OP.

I don't know what that means.

AV1611VET · Aug 19, 2016

DogmaHunter said:
I don't know what that means.

You're demonstrating the OP is correct.

AirPo · Aug 19, 2016

AV1611VET said:
You guys don't realize it, but you're QEDing the OP.

No, you don't realize the OP is wrong.

HitchSlap · Aug 19, 2016

AV1611VET said:
You're demonstrating the OP is correct.

Lol.

Kenny'sID · Aug 19, 2016

Oafman said:
We're not trying to explain where the laws of nature came from!

We're trying to explain where life came from. If we can do that without having to drastically change the laws of nature, then our explanation is much more likely to be accurate than one which does require such changes.

Correction:

"And that has led you to what conclusion? See, with no explanation to where the laws of nature originated, you have very little, so might be a good idea to realize you can't use the laws of nature to explain where life came from because at one time there may have been no laws of nature."

The laws of nature MUST be explained first or you don't have all the equation.

One cannot explain fully or even begin to explain life without explaining where it started. We've been over this several times and as much as folks would like to throw that fact out, you got nothing without it.

Oafman said:
All of them. Not a single serious hypothesis for the origin of life requires 'nothing to come out of nowhere'. Only one 'explanation' for the origin of life requires complex acids and sugars to magically appear out of nowhere, and that's your explanation.

How did things begin...from the start. Choose any hypothesis you like to expand on.

AV1611VET · Aug 19, 2016

AirPo said:
No, you don't realize the OP is wrong.

How can it be wrong, when you're demonstrating it to be correct?

HitchSlap · Aug 19, 2016

AV1611VET said:
How can it be wrong, when you're demonstrating it to be correct?

Lol

AirPo · Aug 19, 2016

AV1611VET said:
How can it be wrong, when you're demonstrating it to be correct?

You'd be amazed. And I'm quite disappointed in your take on this. It undermines your position faith, not evidence.

HitchSlap · Aug 19, 2016

Kenny'sID said:
Correction:

"And that has led you to what conclusion? See, with no explanation to where the laws of nature originated, you have very little, so might be a good idea to realize you can't use the laws of nature to explain where life came from because at one time there may have been no laws of nature."

The laws of nature MUST be explained first or you don't have all the equation.

One cannot explain fully or even begin to explain life without explaining where it started. We've been over this several times and as much as folks would like to throw that fact out, you got nothing without it.

How did things begin...from the start. Choose any hypothesis you like to expand on.

Is this what those who study this, believe?

HitchSlap · Aug 19, 2016

AirPo said:
You'd be amazed. And I'm quite disappointed in your take on this. It undermines your position faith, not evidence.

Don't feed the t r o l l s.

AirPo · Aug 19, 2016

HitchSlap said:
Don't feed the t r o l l s.

Living under a bridge is not one of his shortcomings.

Oafman · Aug 19, 2016

Kenny'sID said:
"And that has led you to what conclusion? See, with no explanation to where the laws of nature originated, you have very little, so might be a good idea to realize you can't use the laws of nature to explain where life came from because at one time there may have been no laws of nature."

'There may have been no laws of nature'. There is zero evidence to suggest the laws of nature have ever been different from what we observe today, since the beginning of the universe (which, btw, was a long time before life on Earth originated).

Your explanation for the origin of life relies on the fact that the laws of nature were, at some point, different. Scientists are working to assess the accuracy of hypotheses which do not require that the laws of nature were different at some point.

The fact that their explanations work within the universe we can observe, and yours does not, makes their explanations better.

AV1611VET · Aug 19, 2016

AirPo said:
Living under a bridge is not one of his shortcomings.

Wait until the Rapture, when all the scientists will go running to their sacred SETI sites to sing their global anthem:

HitchSlap · Aug 19, 2016

AV1611VET said:
Wait until the Rapture, when all the scientists will go running to their sacred SETI sites to sing their global anthem:

Lol

AV1611VET · Aug 19, 2016

HitchSlap said:
Lol

You can laugh, but I believe her plea was answered.

They just weren't the type of aliens she was expecting.

HitchSlap · Aug 19, 2016

AV1611VET said:
You can laugh, but I believe her plea was answered.

They just weren't the type of aliens she was expecting.

Lol

HitchSlap · Aug 19, 2016

Kenny'sID said:
Then I have no answer to the question.

nvm

Commander · Aug 19, 2016

lesliedellow said:
It is not known how life got started. So what's new?

Leslie, all you have to do is to read Genesis to know how life was created!

LittleLambofJesus · Aug 19, 2016

paul becke said: ↑
Read this and weep, atheists :

AirPo said:
with laughter!

LOL.
Crom would laugh also.....

...............
http://www.indians.org/welker/greatspi.htm

"Oh, Great Spirit, whose voice I hear in the wind, Whose Breath gives life to all the world.
Hear me; I need your strength and wisdom.
O Great Spirit of the North, who gives wings to the waters of the air...........
O Great Spirit of the East, the land of the rising Sun.......
O Great Spirit of the South, whose warm breath of compassion melts the ice .........
O Great Spirit of the West, the land of the setting Sun,

Ezekiel 37:9
And He saith unto me: "Prophesy unto the Spirit, prophesy, son of adam, and thou sayeth unto the Spirit: 'Thus said the my Lord Yahweh: From the four winds come in, O Spirit, and breathe on these slain, and they do live.'"

Jimmy D said: ↑
Pass me the *sniff* tissues.

False dichotomies, arguments from ignorance, quote mines, I just wasted 5 minutes of my life.

Click to expand...

StromRider said:

Thanks for saving me 5 minutes!

Click to expand...

Nice

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'Easy to be an atheist if you agnore science' [moved]

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