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After thinking about this in another thread I decided to post this here.

In Acts 12:4 it says
So when he had arrested him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four squads of soldiers to keep him, intending to bring him before the people after Passover.

Shouldn't the word "passover" be translated into Easter?

But in previous verses it says:

Acts 12:1-4
Now about that time Herod the king stretched out his hand to harass some from the church. Then he killed James the brother of John with the sword. And because he saw that it pleased the Jews, he proceeded further to seize Peter also. Now it was during the Days of Unleavened Bread. So when he had arrested him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four squads of soldiers to keep him, intending to bring him before the people after Passover.

And the reason for me posting this is because:

Numbers 28:16
On the fourteenth day of the first month is the Passover of the LORD.

Numbers 28:17
And on the fifteenth day of this month is the feast; unleavened bread shall be eaten for seven days.

So from the above verses we find that Passover is already over and that Herod was not waiting for Passover to be finished, but EASTER


I would like your input, thank you
 

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It really should be called the Resurrection Feast...

The day that death was overcome by life.

"I am the way the truth and the life"
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Well I just disagree with the holiday in general.. people say he died on friday but... it was a annual sabbath he died before, so its impossible to be friday lol
 
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KJV) Deuteronomy 14:7 Nevertheless these ye shall not eat of them that chew the cud, or of them that divide the cloven hoof; [as] the camel, and the hare, and the coney: for they chew the cud, but divide not the hoof; [therefore] they [are] unclean unto you.

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After thinking about this in another thread I decided to post this here.

In Acts 12:4 it says
So when he had arrested him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four squads of soldiers to keep him, intending to bring him before the people after Passover.

Shouldn't the word "passover" be translated into Easter?

But in previous verses it says:

Acts 12:1-4
Now about that time Herod the king stretched out his hand to harass some from the church. Then he killed James the brother of John with the sword. And because he saw that it pleased the Jews, he proceeded further to seize Peter also. Now it was during the Days of Unleavened Bread. So when he had arrested him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four squads of soldiers to keep him, intending to bring him before the people after Passover.

And the reason for me posting this is because:

Numbers 28:16
On the fourteenth day of the first month is the Passover of the LORD.

Numbers 28:17
And on the fifteenth day of this month is the feast; unleavened bread shall be eaten for seven days.

So from the above verses we find that Passover is already over and that Herod was not waiting for Passover to be finished, but EASTER


I would like your input, thank you

KJV Acts 12:4 And when he had apprehended him, he put [him] in prison, and delivered [him] to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people.

The word translated as easter is passover. So two things.

When KJV was translated (1611), easter would be an accurate translation of the idea that was established at Nicea (325). It's like this year (2011). Passover was last Sunday (4/17). Easter is this Sunday (4/24). Unleavened Bread would run 4/18 through 4/24. So, using those dates, the idea is that sometime after 4/24 (easter), Peter would be martyred.

At the time when the gospels and acts were written, they occassionally merged the passover and unleavened bread festival times into one term to stand for the whole period, the 14th and 15th-21st.

Lk. 22:1 Now the feast of unleavened bread drew nigh, which is called the Passover.

I don't believe any other translation ever uses the word easter for passover. In any event, the idea was that sometime after the 21st of nisan, Peter would be martyred.
 
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So, how do we know they were merging both of them into one term?

Anyways this is just one of the many grievances I have about the holiday =P

Lk. 22:1 Now the feast of unleavened bread drew nigh, which is called the Passover.

Mk. 14:12 And the first day of unleavened bread, when they killed the passover, his disciples said unto him, Where wilt thou that we go and prepare that thou mayest eat the passover?

We know they did it accurately.

The 13th ends at sunset and the 14th begins. Slay the lamb and eat it.

The 14th ends at sunset and the 15th begins. Feast of unleavened bread begins from the 15th to sunset on the 21st (7 days, counting inclusively).

Nonetheless, the writers assumed we knew this, even though they 'mingled' the terms.
 
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After thinking about this in another thread I decided to post this here.

In Acts 12:4 it says
So when he had arrested him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four squads of soldiers to keep him, intending to bring him before the people after Passover.

Shouldn't the word "passover" be translated into Easter?

No. It would be anachronistic. The intent was to hold him until the Passover season was finished. Even if Passover and Easter were the same days (which they aren't, since Passover is a several day period), the holiday Herod was waiting to end was Passover. Even if Christians were celebrating Easter by that time, it would have been among a very small group of Christians, and Herod would have been unlikely to either know or care about their holiday.
 
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No. It would be anachronistic. The intent was to hold him until the Passover season was finished. Even if Passover and Easter were the same days (which they aren't, since Passover is a several day period), the holiday Herod was waiting to end was Passover. Even if Christians were celebrating Easter by that time, it would have been among a very small group of Christians, and Herod would have been unlikely to either know or care about their holiday.
I know, early christians didnt celebrate easter
 
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I know, early christians didnt celebrate easter

I am afraid you are mistaken here.

Easter is the "Passover of Christ", the celebration of Christ's Death and Ressurection. This is what Easter is, everything else is embellishment.

No matter what you might have heard the early Christians did celebrate the "Passover of Christ"; this is a historical fact and is recorded by St. Irenaeus of Lyons in the second century.
 
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OK THIS IS LENGTHY. It took me awhile to get all the verses together.
But here you go like you wanted me to 'expound' on it.

"Good Friday" then. People believe Christ died on Friday before the Sabbath day and he was ressurected on Sunday.
I will explain the sabbaths for you.

John 19:17:-18
And He, bearing His cross, went out to a place called the Place of a Skull, which is called in Hebrew, Golgotha, where they crucified Him, and two others with Him, one on either side, and Jesus in the center.
John 19:31
Therefore, because it was the Preparation Day, that the bodies should not remain on the cross on the Sabbath (for that Sabbath was a high day), the Jews asked Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.

That day was a annual Sabbath (high day) and God has seven annual Sabbath days. So when Jesus died he died before an annual Sabbath day.

Leviticus 23:1-2
And the LORD spoke to Moses, saying, “Speak to the children of Israel, and say to them: ‘The feasts of the LORD, which you shall proclaim to be holy convocations, these are My feasts.
Leviticus 23:6
And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the Feast of Unleavened Bread to the LORD; seven days you must eat unleavened bread.
Leviticus 23:7
On the first day you shall have a holy convocation; you shall do no customary work on it.
Leviticus 23:8
But you shall offer an offering made by fire to the LORD for seven days. The seventh day shall be a holy convocation; you shall do no customary work on it.’”

In the above verses it shows two Sabbath days. The first Sabbath is in verse 7, and the second Sabbath is on the seventh day in verse 8.

Leviticus 23:9-11
And the LORD spoke to Moses, saying, “Speak to the children of Israel, and say to them: ‘When you come into the land which I give to you, and reap its harvest, then you shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest to the priest. He shall wave the sheaf before the LORD, to be accepted on your behalf; on the day after the Sabbath the priest shall wave it.

You basically had to wave the firstfruits in these passages to the Lord before anyone could eat anything.
Anyways, continuing.

Leviticus 23:15-16
‘And you shall count for yourselves from the day after the Sabbath, from the day that you brought the sheaf of the wave offering: seven Sabbaths shall be completed. Count fifty days to the day after the seventh Sabbath; then you shall offer a new grain offering to the LORD.

Now you had to do it this on the first day of the week since it is after the Sabbath day. Once the wave was completed, you count seven sabbaths. Thats why you come up with 49 and thats how pentecoast came about. Now when you wave you count 49 days 7x7 = 49, then you add another day which is the first day of the week, which is the morrow after the sabbath.

Leviticus 23:21
And you shall proclaim on the same day that it is a holy convocation to you. You shall do no customary work on it. It shall be a statute forever in all your dwellings throughout your generations.

This one is ALSO a Sabbath day. The day of pentecoast is the third annual sabbath day.

Leviticus 23:23-24
Then the LORD spoke to Moses, saying, “Speak to the children of Israel, saying: ‘In the seventh month, on the first day of the month, you shall have a sabbath-rest, a memorial of blowing of trumpets, a holy convocation.

In the seventh day you have ANOTHER Sabbath day, this is the fourth annual sabbath day.

Leviticus 23:26-27
And the LORD spoke to Moses, saying: “Also the tenth day of this seventh month shall be the Day of Atonement. It shall be a holy convocation for you; you shall afflict your souls, and offer an offering made by fire to the LORD.
Leviticus 23:32
It shall be to you a sabbath of solemn rest, and you shall afflict your souls; on the ninth day of the month at evening, from evening to evening, you shall celebrate your sabbath.”

Day of Atonement is the 5th annual sabbath day.

Leviticus 23:33-36
Then the LORD spoke to Moses, saying, “Speak to the children of Israel, saying: ‘The fifteenth day of this seventh month shall be the Feast of Tabernacles for seven days to the LORD. On the first day there shall be a holy convocation. You shall do no customary work on it. For seven days you shall offer an offering made by fire to the LORD. On the eighth day you shall have a holy convocation, and you shall offer an offering made by fire to the LORD. It is a sacred assembly, and you shall do no customary work on it.

Tabernacle is the sixth annual sabbath day, and the eighth day is also a annual sabbath day.

Recap on Annual Sabbath days
1-Feast of unleavened bread
2-Feast of unleavened bread
3-Pentecoast
4-Trumpet
5-Day of Atonement
6-Tabernacle
7-Eighth Day

Leviticus 23:5-6
On the fourteenth day of the first month at twilight is the LORD’s Passover. And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the Feast of Unleavened Bread to the LORD; seven days you must eat unleavened bread.

Fourteenth day of the first month is Passover.
First annual Sabbath day is on the fifteenth day.

Continuing.

Exodus 12:1-2
Now the LORD spoke to Moses and Aaron in the land of Egypt, saying, “This month shall be your beginning of months; it shall be the first month of the year to you.
Exodus 12:5-7
Your lamb shall be without blemish, a male of the first year. You may take it from the sheep or from the goats. Now you shall keep it until the fourteenth day of the same month. Then the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it at twilight. And they shall take some of the blood and put it on the two doorposts and on the lintel of the houses where they eat it.

This is on the day of the passover. The first month of Abib on the 14th day.

Exodus 12:12-15
‘For I will pass through the land of Egypt on that night, and will strike all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgment: I am the LORD. Now the blood shall be a sign for you on the houses where you are. And when I see the blood, I will pass over you; and the plague shall not be on you to destroy you when I strike the land of Egypt.
‘So this day shall be to you a memorial; and you shall keep it as a feast to the LORD throughout your generations. You shall keep it as a feast by an everlasting ordinance. Seven days you shall eat unleavened bread. On the first day you shall remove leaven from your houses. For whoever eats leavened bread from the first day until the seventh day, that person shall be cut off from Israel.

The first day of unleavened bread (15th day) is the day Jesus was crucified before.

Mark 14:1-2
After two days it was the Passover and the Feast of Unleavened Bread. And the chief priests and the scribes sought how they might take Him by trickery and put Him to death. But they said, “Not during the feast, lest there be an uproar of the people.”

First annual sabbath and the second annual Sabbath. They killed him on the passover because they said 'Not during the feast, lest there be an uproar of the people.".

1 Corinthians 5:7
Therefore purge out the old leaven, that you may be a new lump, since you truly are unleavened. For indeed Christ, our Passover, was sacrificed for us.

Leaven means sin. He purged out the leaven by his blood. Christ our 'passover'. Christ is literally the passover. The pass over ALWAYS comes before the first day ofunleavened bread feast which is a Sabbath day...

Matthew 12:38-40
hen some of the scribes and Pharisees answered, saying, “Teacher, we want to see a sign from You.”
But He answered and said to them, “An evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign, and no sign will be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the whale, so will the son of man do the same.

John 20:1-2
Now the first day of the week Mary Magdalene went to the tomb early, while it was still dark, and saw that the stone had been taken away from the tomb. Then she ran and came to Simon Peter, and to the other disciple, whom Jesus loved, and said to them, “They have taken away the Lord out of the tomb, and we do not know where they have laid Him.”

First day of the week... is sunday. It was STILL DARK.
He wasn't there on the first day of the week.

Danial 9:26-27
And after the sixty-two weeks
Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself;
And the people of the prince who is to come
Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary.
The end of it shall be with a flood,
And till the end of the war desolations are determined.
Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week;
But in the middle of the week
He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering.
And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate,
Even until the consummation, which is determined,
Is poured out on the desolate.”

Christ had came and he got killed and was killed for our sins. He will confirm the covenant with 'many' for one week (Gal 3). In the midst of the week he will cause the sacrifices to cease. He did this by his sacrifice.

Hebrews 10:1
For the law, having a shadow of the good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with these same sacrifices, which they offer continually year by year, make those who approach perfect.

this is the law Jesus replaced, it was just a shadow and could never remove sin, but Christ did

Hebrews 10:4-5
For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and goats could take away sins.
Therefore, when He came into the world, He said:
“ Sacrifice and offering You did not desire,
But a body You have prepared for Me.

Hebrews 10:10
By that will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

sanctified once for all by his atonement 2000 years ago...

Hebrews 10:18
Now where there is remission of these, there is no longer an offering for sin.

No more offerings needed for sin since all sin was abolished...
This is all needed to be clarified...

The bible says he was in the grave in the midst of the week, meaning Wednesday. And he rose Saturday. So, he didn't die on friday so there is no such thing as good friday. and there is no such thing as easter sunday. Since he rose on Saturday..

blah too much writing
 
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Coverage of days is any portion of the day. That's simply the way days were marked in the ancient world.

The point is very early that Jesus rose on a Sunday. That's unmistakable from the accounts of the Resurrection ("on the first day of the week, before the sun rose") as well as the epistle of Barnabas.

Jesus' last supper is believed to actually be a Passover supper, and also very early -- that was part of the quartodecimian controversy.

Certain sects of the time in Judaism objected to just about everything coming out of the Jerusalem temple, including the calendar, which was declared from the Temple during this time.
 
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