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I have sought the best that science could muster against my ideas, yes. I like to meet all evidence, and know if I am right or wrong.It's a paroDADy thread. I thought you never came over here and just hung out on the C/E board and EvC forums?
A cake walk. They, being limited only to natural science, took a while to start to realize there may be more that that. It is a shock to the system, to be faced with the prospect that you really don't know it all, and the past and future really may have been fundamentally different.Nope, dad got banned twice from the EvC forum. Still soiling himself @ physOrg.com though. They do not suffer fools gladly there so it's been kinda brutal there for dad.
WE do live in a very real world, and no real person knows what is at the center of the earth. They use indirect evidence, burdened with assumptions, many of which that are false.Quite frankly, this kind of nonsense is a very good reason why creationism is a laughing stock. That anyone takes any of this seriously makes me wonder if some folk actually live in the real world.
Jesus was spiritual and physical. in the eternal form. No evidence for walking through walls can exist in natural only knowledge, especially 2000 yrs later!So, the body of Jesus for the YEC would have to have left the tomb of Joseph of Arimethea and travelled to the center of the earth and then come back?
I have never heard of such a proposition. I am not sure why you try to use it here. Has anyone actually suggested the same?
Lets also be absurd and say that if Jesus was really resurrected and talked with his disciples, there must be archeological evidence of Wile E Coyote style holes in the walls of rooms that he entered without using door, as is taught of his post-resurrection appearnces.
The Bible clearly teaches that we return to the earth as dust, ie, part of the crust.
Is heaven a physical location? No. Neither is hell, at least not the temporary physical only state. (But New Jerusalem has exact dimensions, and a size. And hell is under the earth, so it has a location here. Not a physical only location, but, then, who says the center of the earth is that way anyhow???Is hell a physical location? Do souls (if "souls" are indeed the best handle by which we should describe the afterlife) have physical existence?
If you thought it was a physical only place. But there are levels of hell.Well quite. This assertion would also make Hell not a lake of fire, but a rather cool place, wouldn't it?
If we bounced a seismic wave at New Jerusalem, if it were up in the sky, and we could do that, how would it look? How do you know that????? Shouldn't you know what you are talking about? You are simply saying, in effect, 'I believe that the inner earth is just like the surface, physical only' Waves cannot tell you that.We have no physical evidence of anything
that is not true. there is lots of evidence and data from echo soundings and seismic reflection.
other techniques such as:
"Geophysicists can also make maps of other physical properties that rocks show over an area. Gravitational pull, magnetic field strength, electrical conductivity, radioactivity, and spectral reflectance are all properties that may be used to detect particular rock formations of economic or geologic interest, even if they are buried below the surface."
from: http://www.seismo.unr.edu/ftp/pub/louie/class/100/interior.html
Oh we have a little data, but we need to interpret that. Now, if you had been there, and run tests, and observations, and told us it was just like the surface, and physical only, under only the same laws, why, I would have to consider the evidence. That is not the case, you simply assume and believe certain things. But so do I. That is not science.but to say we have no data, therefore the theory that hell exists in the core of the earth is scientifically entertainable, is simply and completely wrong.
Which I don't.If you thought it was a physical only place.
But there are levels of hell.
The earth is not flat. [try and show the bible says that]
The sun, planets do not revolve around the earth. [where is that verse? and what will the new heavens be like, as to what revolves where??? and how do you know?]
The earth is not hollow, with an opening in the north pole where spirits go into the earth, where both heaven and hell are physically located. [it does not say that hell is physically anything. It is a place for spirits, and not just physical, but it is down there. Heaven is up. not down. jesus ascended up to heaven. He will come back down here. the paradise that used to be there, can you show us it still is?? the olt testament spirits rose from the dead after Jesus did, remember?]
Hell is not in the center of the earth's core.[never read that in the bible]
The earth is not 6000 years old.[yes it is]
What does that mean? Sounds a bit like saying, that 'things evolved, and if there were no original kinds, we imagine they could have evolved from nothing'God did not miraculously create kinds de novo, ex nihilo. there is no "kind" barrier to evolutionary common descent.
Jesus came to set us free.Black African slavery is not justified by the Hametic verses.
Hey, get real, as explained, prove it.Yet everyone of these principles can be and has been justified in terms of the Scriptures.
Who says hell is a physical present state void??Because there is 0 evidence for Hell being in the center of the earth as opposed to the voluminous evidence that something physical is there, that leaves no room for people to be burning. It's true, we're still investigating exactly what is in the center of the earth, but if you look at the evidence, it's clear, it isn't a void for hell.
Only within the limits of natural only things. That doesn't cover the future. Neither does it cover the center of the earth, except by assumption, and faith.Because scientist have a commitment to seek out truth not "TRUTH"
Hey, jump away, let's see what you got.and will not drop their guard for a second even if an untruth does not directly affect their work. So when somebody proposes something that is just plain wrong (in this case wrong and loopy), of course scientists will jump all over it even when it doesn't directly impact their field. So yea, it is a big deal.
That forum is quite religious, and intolerant of other religions. Like discussing something with a talk show host that hangs up on you, and rants on for hours themselves. Or, allows only a narrow range of opinion...at evcforum.net ...
How many per square mile?By my calculations, assuming an average human body mass of 66.57 kg and a hollow inner core to the Earth (and that Earth's inner core actually does represent hell), we could theoretically pack 1.14x10^20 bodies in there. Less, accounting for negative space. Needless to say, there's more than enough room in hell.
(Let me know if I forgot to carry a 1.)
"The fact that the Earth has a magnetic field is an independent piece of evidence for a molten, liquid core. A compass magnet aligns with the magnetic field anywhere on the Earth. The earth cannot be a large permanent magnet, since magnetic minerals lose their magnetism when they are hotter than about 500 degrees C. Almost all of the earth is hotter, and the only other way to make a magnetic field is with a circulating electric current."
No, because magnetic materials that are more than 10 miles underground keep their magnetism no matter how hot they get.
That doesn't prove anything. Thing's are different that far below the Earth's surface.
The fact that there is a magnetic field proves I'm right.
That doesn't prove anything. Thing's are different that far below the Earth's surface. The fact that there is a magnetic field proves I'm right.
So the underlying solid state physics changes?
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