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We all know poverty and oppression lead to stronger faith in one thing or another as people turn to God or some other ideal to save them from their blight.

Oil prices keep on rising;
America's Economy keeps on deteriorating. More and more people in America adopt the Catholic faith and more and more people take it to the extremes. The government, not wanting to lose its support, waves a "God" banner as they did with their last election.

The situation in the middle east deteriorates further and
America can no longer financially support to have their troops in Iraq, so they abandon it leaving the country in civil war. America's popularity sinks to an all time low. Their economy further worsens and goes into crises. America demands that they be able to breach certain trading regulations in order to up their economy. The other countries involved refuse to allow America to break the trading restrictions. America does it anyway, thus making economic enemies of many of the other wealthy parties of the world.

America insists it have priority over Canadian and south American Oil over other countries. Canada refuses to prioritize America as they are now on bad terms with them over the things Mentioned above.

Meanwhile
China's Economy is booming and so is their military. They start replacing America in much of the world as far as exports and other businesses are concerned. America demands that these other countries stop switching to China for their goods, but money talks and since it is Cheaper to work with China then America, they are ignored.

America tries to Meddle with Canadian politics in order to regain approval there and thus the vast amount of imports they want from them. Canada by this point is trading more of it's goods to China and the rest of the world then it is to America. The Canadian government is outraged by America's antics and make it known what America was up to. The Canadian public along with much of the rest of the world are disgusted and Canada decides it no longer needs America as a trading economic partner. Along with Much of Europe, and several countries in the rest of the world which were on bad terms with America, they impose a Boycott on America, and turn to China as their main trading partner.

A few years go by and most of the western worlds Economy has improved, China is now the Richest and most powerful country in the world, they've pretty much become the Capitalists America used to be, dismissing most of their old Communist ideals for vast wealth and prosperity.

By this point America is, as a majority, a Christian state and a rather religious one at that. Through Religious propaganda to keep Morals high the government in favor within it's own people, they decide to approve Government assassinations on those countries they see as a threat.

The Canadian and French PM's are assassinated as they were the loudest and most prominent speakers against the American government. The world goes into uproar over it and many countries threaten strong military retaliations if
America should dare and assassinate any of their political figures. However most of the countries in questions don't have the Military means, economy or courage to really dare to wage war against America, despite America being in a weakened state, and America knows it.

Canada and France Appoint new PM's; ones who speak even louder against the American government. America becomes the new North Korea in the eyes of the majority and is overwhelmingly unpopular around the world. Those last countries that did not go along with the Boycott now join those who did and America is completely Isolated.

America decides it's time to take matters into their own hands and stop caring what anybody else thought (not that they did before) and invade Canada in order go utilize their resources. Canada puts up a fight but is quickly defeated.

China, Russia and several other countries form a Coalition and threaten to Attack America if they do not retreat back into their own soil. America refuses. As the Chinese lead coalition heads towards the North American Continent, America Launches the first Nukes, at China. China responds instantly, so does the UK, Russia and France. America reciprocates and Launches nukes at all it's enemies.

Nuclear war.

The North American continent, most of
Europe and large parts of Asia are now nothing by radioactive holes. The rest of the world is now suffering under nuclear winter. Most of the world population starves to death.

New Zealand and parts of Australia along with a few other places in the world come out of the nuclear holocaust alive, but in bad condition. The people are poor and sick and the countries have turned into police states. So afraid are the people of a repeat of what happened before, they impose military rule over all. Gone are the ways of democracy. Religion is abolished, as it was in China during the peak of it's communism and all bibles, torah’s and Koran's found are destroyed along with any other religious memorabilia.

Earth 2030.

But hey, god's on our side.
 

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gaijin178 said:
The bible mentions America?

You silly! :D

Actually, many nations are seen in the Bible. The fact that the USA can't be identified from the Bible leads to the conclusion that the USA will be fatally weakened somehow.
 
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newlamb said:
You silly! :D

Actually, many nations are seen in the Bible. The fact that the USA can't be identified from the Bible leads to the conclusion that the USA will be fatally weakened somehow.

I am known to be pretty silly from time to time....so the fact that the US wasn't mentioned in the bible leads to the conclusion that it will be fatally weakened? Interesting stuff.
 
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It is one possible scenario, though, like most cataclysmic scenarios which are always thought of, it will very likely not come to pass.

What the Western nations will need to do is rethink the notion of the "Welfare State", or of the "social-democracy", two great failures which they insist to sustain, with great harm to themselves. This in the economic field.

China already has a lot of problems of their own (population ageing absurdly fast because of the one-child policy and very possibly shortage of water in the near future), so it is very risky to predict it will indeed become an economic superpower anywhere close to USA or Europe.

And as for French and Canadian PMs being assassinated by US officials, this is just not going to happen.

I predict that what will happen in the future are mostly regular stuff, and then some serious things that were mostly unpredictable.
 
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We need to get on better terms with ALL nations, something Bush isn't good at doing himself.

Put Russia and China's nukes together and they have more than we do. Good thing Russia and China don't get a long and haven't in history.:thumbsup:

Those two countries did recently have a joint military exercise.
 
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MarinoMan said:
I have a solution to the story...just nuke the middle east!
I have another solution... America gradually returns to its isolationist roots, the rest of the world realizes that its wars are futile, people are free to follow their own beliefs while not encroaching on others rights, nations retain sovereignty, people are given greater freedom, and we enter a new golden era of international sports and intellectual advancement that reaches far beyond our schools and universities.
 
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In 1933, FDR is elected, installs severally banking reforms and drags the US deeper into the depression and drags the rest of the world into the depression. He then installs welfare and SS. How much money each year is stolen from Americans to continue these socialist policies? In fact, this man was elected to the presidency 4 times!

What does this have to do with nuclear war? It has absolutly nothing to do with nuclear war. LOL! I just got done watching South Park where Johnny Cochran uses his Chewbacka defense.


There is one problem in the equation of the OP: $60billion does not equal $400billion.
 
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mrkguy75 said:
I have another solution... America gradually returns to its isolationist roots, the rest of the world realizes that its wars are futile, people are free to follow their own beliefs while not encroaching on others rights, nations retain sovereignty, people are given greater freedom, and we enter a new golden era of international sports and intellectual advancement that reaches far beyond our schools and universities.

...where are the nukes...
 
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or another solution, scientist keep toying with antimatter, and make a machine the produces the stuff. They produce enough of it, all stored and then someone acidentally presses the wrong boutton.

I would put boom in big letters, but to get the point across that way, each letter would be about the size of a town. Anyways, america, Mexico (cuase that is where the plants are that would make this stuff is located) most of canada, and all but the bottom tip of Central america are completly. Now we worry about droppin sea levels to fill up the void of matter that was blown into space. The atmoshpere is blocked out, about 1/3 of the stars desapear, and 1/3 the earth has been blown up, and so up in heaven God says, 'better get to revalations before there is nothing left'. And, you get the point.

Oh, did I mention what happened to the scientist that pressed the wrong button, actually he was energized.
 
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newlamb said:
Actually, the Bible indicates that America will not be a superpower much longer, though it doesn't say why. Doesn't matter, really.

I believe that you are optimistic that the year 2030 will even occur! :)

There has to be if you take revelations literally. Its 1000 years of satan of satan on earth and then an other for christ's reign.
 
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