D'Souza Pleads Guilty

[JustOneWay]

Further evidence of the political nature of the attack on D'Sousa.

Not really. You are comparing apples to oranges, and when should we expect you to attack McCain?

 

[catholichomeschooler]

Not really. You are comparing apples to oranges, and when should we expect you to attack McCain?

The attack on D'Sousa is unique because he made an anti Obama movie.

 

[bhsmte]

The attack on D'Sousa is unique because he made an anti Obama movie.

Ok, that could provide motivation for different treatment, but it still requires evidence.

 

[DaisyDay]

Barack Obama's presidential campaign has been fined $375,000 by the Federal Election Commission for violating federal disclosure laws, Politico reports.

An FEC audit of Obama for America's 2008 records found the committee failed to disclose millions of dollars in contributions and dragged its feet in refunding millions more in excess contributions.

The resulting fine, one of the largest ever handed down by the FEC, is the result of a failure to disclose or improperly disclosing thousands of contributions to Obama for America during the then-senator's 2008 presidential run, documents show.

Obama for America was also fined for "untimely resolution of excessive contributions," according to the conciliation agreement, FEC says. The campaign accepted more than $1.3 million in contributions that came from donors who had already given $46,000—the maximum allowed by FEC rules. The campaign eventually refunded the excess cash but did not do so within the 60-day window allotted for resolving such cases, FEC said.

In addition to failing to report big donors and excess donations in a timely manner, the Obama campaign incorrectly dated the filings dealing with $85 million in funds, the FEC claims. This error appears to have been primarily the result of one transfer to the campaign committee from the Obama Victory Fund, a fundraising group that includes money raised by the Democratic National Committee that is earmarked for the presidential race.

Two questions:

1. Do you think Obama personally handled his campaign finances?
2. Do you think that anyone other than Dinesh D'Souza caused the two people to contribute his money under their names to Wendy Long's campaign?

Btw, Obama! is not the topic of this thread.

 

[catholichomeschooler]

Two questions:

1. Do you think Obama personally handled his campaign finances?
2. Do you think that anyone other than Dinesh D'Souza caused the two people to contribute his money under their names to Wendy Long's campaign?

Btw, Obama! is not the topic of this thread.

The point is that the Obama adminstration is targeting D'Sousa because he is a politcal enemy. None of the lawbreakers who donated to Obama illegally were threatened with jail time.

Why now?

 

[DaisyDay]

How do you know?

No one stepped forward to make the claim that they were prevented from voting. Do you even know why those two were there?

It was Eric Holder who refused to prosecute these men when it was brought to his attention.

Yeah, right - when did the incident take place? How many months before Holder became Attorney General?

The department investigated complaints that two leaders of the New Black Panther Party, King Samir Shabazz and Jerry Jackson, intimidated white voters at a Philadelphia polling place in 2008. A criminal investigation into the incident was dropped by the Bush administration, but the Justice Department under President Obama obtained a narrower civil court order against the conduct than Bush officials had sought.

Lols, the Bush administration didn't even bother to bring charges.

 

[catholichomeschooler]

No one stepped forward to make the claim that they were prevented from voting. Do you even know why those two were there?

Yeah, right - when did the incident take place? How many months before Holder became Attorney General?

Lols, the Bush administration didn't even bother to bring charges.

I gave you the quotes.

Holder had the information but refused to prosecute because these men were black democrats.

I guess that's OK with you.

 

[SummerMadness]

The point is that the Obama adminstration is targeting D'Sousa because he is a politcal enemy. None of the lawbreakers who donated to Obama illegally were threatened with jail time.

Why now?

The point is you are trying to make this about ! Obama ! . D'Souza committed the crime himself.

 

[JustOneWay]

Two questions:

1. Do you think Obama personally handled his campaign finances?
2. Do you think that anyone other than Dinesh D'Souza caused the two people to contribute his money under their names to Wendy Long's campaign?

Btw, Obama! is not the topic of this thread.

It is used to derail the thread because they can't defend D'Souza on the facts of his guilt, conviction and eventual imprisonment.

 

[DaisyDay]

I gave you the quotes.

Yeah, without a source, so I googled and found:

The Plum Line - Predictably, conservatives distort Holder's testimony on New Black Panthers Case

This is the actual context in which Holder used the term "my people":

"Think about that," Holder said. "When you compare what people endured in the South in the 60s to try to get the right to vote for African Americans, to compare what people subjected to that with what happened in Philadelphia, which was inappropriate....to describe it in those terms I think does a great disservice to people who put their lives on the line for my people," said Holder, who is black.

Holder noted that his late sister-in-law, Vivian Malone Jones, helped integrate the University of Alabama.

"To compare that kind of courage, that kind of action, to say some Black Panther incident is of greater concern to us, historically, I think just flies in the face of history," Holder said with evident exasperation.
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Understand the difference? Holder didn't say voting rights laws didn't protect whites, he suggested that comparing the NBPP case, which has yet to involve a single voter who claims to have been intimidated, to the decades long bloody struggle for black voting rights in the South was offensive.​

Looks like someone was quote-mining. Some posters here have a problem with the very concept of "context".

Holder had the information but refused to prosecute because these men were black democrats.

That is baloney. The two men were there to prevent the intimidation of black voters. They left when asked to. Nobody has made the claim that they were prevented from voting. Since no one was actually stopped from voting, why do conservatives cite this as significant? Is it because Black Panthers! ?

I guess that's OK with you.

Lols. Holder! is also not the topic of this thread.

Dinesh D'Souza and his guilty plea is the topic.

 

[cow451]

The attack on D'Sousa is unique because he made an anti Obama movie.

He PLEADED GUILTY of Fraudulent Solicitation, not making a bad movie.

 

[bhsmte]

He PLEADED GUILTY of Fraudulent Solicitation, not making a bad movie.

I would not be shocked, if the administration did go after him a little harder, because of his background and worked extra hard, to get the goods on him to force the plea.

Not saying it happened, but I don't think this administration is above that.

 

[cow451]

In other words, you have nothing official as to the charges he pled to. You should have just said so

Better get an umbrella, you're sprinkler system is about to go off.

 

[MachZer0]

I understand. You have no answer.

Generally speaking, people ask a question because they don't have the answer . In this case, no one else seems to have the answer either

 

[bhsmte]

Generally speaking, people ask a question because they don't have the answer . In this case, no one else seems to have the answer either

On this site, I would think many of the questions are asked to simply get another person's answer and not because the person asking the question doesn't have their own answer.

Sort of like an attorney in a trial. Just about every question he asks, he knows the answer to.

 

[catholichomeschooler]

He PLEADED GUILTY of Fraudulent Solicitation, not making a bad movie.

Others committing similar crimes were not faced with jail time.

Why?

 

[JustOneWay]

Generally speaking, people ask a question because they don't have the answer . In this case, no one else seems to have the answer either

Thank you for confirming you have no answer. It would be easier to say that next time instead of the usual hand waving.

 

[bhsmte]

Thank you for confirming you have no answer. It would be easier to say that next time instead of the usual hand waving.

He's a hand waver.

 

[SummerMadness]

Someone blaming Obama for a crime committed by D'Souza. Then you have someone blaming Obama for a person who did not commit the same crime as D'Souza, but believing they need to get the same charge? Or the person denying D'Souza committed a crime for which he plead guilty?

All of that makes sense.

 

[cow451]

Others committing similar crimes were not faced with jail time.

Why?

Law 101: The "possible sentence" is part of the law. And media often quote the extreme to make it sound more dramatic. However, his lawyer is requesting no jail (suspended sentence) and I would be surprised if he got any jail time at all. This appears to be a plea bargained case, which makes it likely the sentence will be on the low end of the scale. We'll have to wait until the sentencing hearing.

Remember, he did not simply exceed the campaign limit, he had two people, one being his mistress, contribute and he paid them back in an effort to get around the contribution limit. That is what is known as "Fraud".