But I do agree with the teachings of Jesus; I thought I made that clear in my first post.
What I don't agree with is the teachings of some Christians.
Ah, thanks, I'm glad your post here led me to reread your first post.
I take it perhaps what you mean by not agreeing with teachings of some Christians, you are not referring to teachings of some Christians about Jesus?
But you rather meant, don't agree what some Christians say? Such as things which may or may not pertain to the bible?
I just woke up so can't think straight yet.
Im not sure where to go from here, but I'll ask write on something you wrote above.
Are you seeking to be a new creation in Christ? another word, born again? Two terms describing two things which occurs the second one is in Christ. Other things occur but just those two for the moment.
This may be another subject;
As there are misconceptions and preconceptions of Christians, as to what a Christian is like, etc.
including Christians who have same notions.
I refer to your quote.. the Ghandi quote...
there are many people who think that a Christian is to be other than real person they are, while others can be real people, a Christian can not, as they are 'supposed' to be a certain way..
the above is a topic of interest to me.. and the Ghandi quote reminds me of it and is why I bring it up.
ah, so above is a very confusing post of mine, I just can't think yet, but can you tell me more if any, of questions you may be asking about. I don't know if what I wrote above is any of them. Just started them and forgot even why was writing them.
The Ghandi quote I believe starts with, I like your Jesus...
Is it the same with you, that you like Jesus, but have no further interest than that? (the things you like may include things Jesus taught?)
And of above do you know or have heard what it is to be a Christian? or not what it is, but how to be a Christian?
as say, let's say someone rather than Jesus is teaching thusly, I'll call him Ralph.
Ralph says, do good to your neighbor, and never do other than treat him as you yourself desire to be treated.
Ralph says, feed the poor, help people, serve people, love people, on and on, and you see what I'm saying.
So one can follow Ralphs teachings and Ralphs teachings are rather decent if not excellent any one would say; that is one who cares for others.
So Ralph is likable.
But Ralph is not God.
Jesus is God, and before being in Christ, we are separated from God, in unforgiven sin (often also unawares), slaves to satan (unawares), slaves to sin (unawares) ..
Sorry to use the Ralph analogy, never have done a thing like that before, but still not awake yet to think clearly..
are you interested in being in Christ, or interested in the good things which Jesus teaches and gave us to do.
and if interested in being known by God, reconciled to God, forgiven sin, and the rest which occurs once in Christ; are you thinking, well, if I were, would mean x, y, z?
And x, y, z doesn't fit for me?
If so, those might be preconceptions and misconceptions but of a different kind that what I speak of above, as well as what some Christians may have said as concerns such.
as I know I'm not being very clear. and dont' mean to be at all.
But there are essentials in Christ... faith in Christ to become a Christian or to be known by God, reconciled, and the much more which occurs once in Christ.
and I didn't mean to, but left off my last letter to you an end to the last sentence I wrote..
I should have added at the end of the learn of Jesus sentence...that then..the rest will fall in place.
Not life without struggles, (far from it) but the truths of Christ and the bible. These fall in place once we are in Christ, though sooner for some, later for others, and some, maybe little.. though each one of us, all our lives such is occuring as we grow in Christ.
But I am speaking about a new creation in Christ.
You see, prior to coming to Jesus, I knew nothing of God, never thought of God, was never taught of God, never thought of anythign as pertains to God, religion, etc. I came to Christ at 33 years old.
For me, once I came to Christ, which in my case is a fairly short story, and all happened in a very short period of time, but what occurred was I was immediately born again, a new creation in Christ, the old had passed the new had come (these are from the bible).
now, I did not know such as had no clue to what was occuring, and hadn't yet read the bible.
And on answering two questions a pastor asked, I left the building and walked outside and creation appeared to me as I had never seen it. I also said at that time while I was looking at the trees, leaves, clouds and sky, said that somehow I have always known this truth, (Jesus) but had suppressed it.
then went on, not given anything by the pastor more than what he asked, the two questions which led me to Christ, and began to read the bible, and no longer desired things of my past and much more occurred, in a very short time after I was born again.
that's just me, each person is different. Not one person has the same experience, but is what occurred with me.
and once we are in Christ is when our walk starts with God.
I am not sure if this is what you are thinking about, coming to Jesus, or if you want to know for another reason about drugs and spirituality as pertains to the bible.
which I don't understand if so, but may be do to a misunderstanding on something you may have or I may have.
and maybe you've said it clearly and I missed it.
Anyway, I'll stop here for now.
take care,
tapero