drug use

[notapillow]

hey there
i was just wondeing what you guys veiws on drug use are
i smoke weed regularly and am a big fan of psilocybin
and a few lesser known drugs
i see nothing wrong with it, if anything these drugs have helped my life alot
but the ever growing war on drugs has got me worryed to say the leased
so wha5t say you

 

[notapillow]

ihave had sevral christian christian freinds sever all ties with me because of my drug use. wich i think was kind of mean
but oh well that was like 5 years ago
i just dont see how so the main religions, the media, and the govt can all hate somthing like a plant fungus or cacti
its just kinda silly i think

 

[Eve_Sundancer]

I don't think drugs are the best things, because of the loss of control they bring. What about the drugs makes them so good sounding to you? I feel that there are many better ways to find happiness and to help yourself through harder times in your life, but that's just me.

 

[notapillow]

well i have tryed alot of drugs
most of witch i will never do again some good some bad
i have done drugs that make you lose total control, i dont like those at all
i smnoke weed for relaxation and for musical awarness
and mushrooms (psilocybin) are are very importent to me spiritualy. they have changed my life greatly and i see the world as a much better place now than befor i did them. there is some what of a loss of control on shrooms but if you can let go and embraise the utter strangeness of the univerce they can teach you many things

but that too is just me

 

[zyklzy]

notapillow
I've done just about every drug known to man - and in copious amounts most of my life and I can tell they are simply counterfiets Satan uses to mess with your head, destroy your life and ultimately land you in hell. If you are a Christian (which it appears you're not) then God brings a "peace that surpasses all understanding" so why smoke pot? As for the cosmic experiences you get from mushrooms and acid, as Christians we'll have all eternity to enjoy that. You simply haven't grasped the fact that life is not all about what you can get out of it (or simply getting out of it). It's about serving others the way Jesus did. By laying our lives down for others we find (true) life. The Devil is real and basically just wants your mind and soul (for all eternity). Jesus said you cannot serve 2 masters. You can't be serving God and be indulging in drugs!

 

[Madcoil]

notapillow
I've done just about every drug known to man - and in copious amounts most of my life and I can tell they are simply counterfiets Satan uses to mess with your head, destroy your life and ultimately land you in hell. If you are a Christian (which it appears you're not) then God brings a "peace that surpasses all understanding" so why smoke pot? As for the cosmic experiences you get from mushrooms and acid, as Christians we'll have all eternity to enjoy that. You simply haven't grasped the fact that life is not all about what you can get out of it (or simply getting out of it). It's about serving others the way Jesus did. By laying our lives down for others we find (true) life. The Devil is real and basically just wants your mind and soul (for all eternity). Jesus said you cannot serve 2 masters. You can't be serving God and be indulging in drugs!

Suicide just started sounding better.

"You can't be serving god and be indulging in drugs!"
So communion's been a sin all along!

 

[JustJack!]

I've done just about every drug known to man - and in copious amounts most of my life and I can tell they are simply counterfiets Satan uses to mess with your head, destroy your life and ultimately land you in hell. If you are a Christian (which it appears you're not) then God brings a "peace that surpasses all understanding" so why smoke pot? As for the cosmic experiences you get from mushrooms and acid, as Christians we'll have all eternity to enjoy that. You simply haven't grasped the fact that life is not all about what you can get out of it (or simply getting out of it). It's about serving others the way Jesus did. By laying our lives down for others we find (true) life. The Devil is real and basically just wants your mind and soul (for all eternity). Jesus said you cannot serve 2 masters. You can't be serving God and be indulging in drugs!

Says you.

With moderated use, I see nothing wrong with weed. I don't drive when I'm high. I don't go to my job high. I sit on my couch and listen to Pink Floyd and play GTA3. And since weed has never been proven to have directly killed anyone, unlike tabbaco or liquor. So exactly who is it that I'm hurting?

 

[Clem is Me]

I have two problems with drugs:

1) They get in the way of critical thinking, something which this country (USA) is sorely lacking already

2) They make other people do stupid things through legislation.

It's just my problem, really. Everyone in my country seems happiest when they are dumb and legislated.

 

[JustJack!]

Weed doesn't get in my way of critical thinking. I've argued some of my best points while being high.

And I'm not sure what you trying to say in #2.

 

[Clem is Me]

Well, you thought they were your best points at the time...

 

[zyklzy]

Says you.

With moderated use, I see nothing wrong with weed. I don't drive when I'm high. I don't go to my job high. I sit on my couch and listen to Pink Floyd and play GTA3. And since weed has never been proven to have directly killed anyone, unlike tabbaco or liquor. So exactly who is it that I'm hurting?

Yourself and God!

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

ihave had sevral christian christian freinds sever all ties with me because of my drug use. wich i think was kind of mean
but oh well that was like 5 years ago
i just dont see how so the main religions, the media, and the govt can all hate somthing like a plant fungus or cacti
its just kinda silly i think

I think you were high when you wrote this.

 

[arizona_sunshine]

What are the merits of recreational drug usage?

If they are selfless, you can begin making the case to me that they are compatible with the ideals of Christianity. My understanding now is that they are not. For now, I place recreational drug use under the same column that I place masturbation: "sinful" due to its self-serving motives.

 

[Clem is Me]

Eating, breathing, sleeping...existing...all are self serving.

 

[GreenDragon]

Yourself and God!

He just said it didn't kill anyone (and it doesn't really directly harm you either, except that you're inhaling smoke). And I don't think God is hurt by him smoking, and more than he is by you getting a papercut or accidently stabbing yourself with your knife at the dinner table.

 

[feral]

Too many of my friends have died of accidental or deliberate overdoses for me to have a favourable view of drugs or drug use.

While I understand the attraction and don't look down on people who experiment out of curiousity, I have very little respect for regular drug users or people who abuse drugs. In my view, drugs are pointless. People turn to them to escape situations they are too weak to handle, and I do not admire that type of cowardice. I have seen a lot of once vibrant, intelligent people reduced to desperate junkies, and have watched many friends go from being bright and witty to being slackjawed idiots who have no interests or life outside of smoking marijuana or shooting up. I am not opposed to someone using drugs on occasion, such as in a social situation like taking ecstasy at a rave or ketamine just to see what it's like, but there is nothing impressive about it, and I see drugs curtail people's lives everyday. I have tried drugs; heroin and coke, never the lighter ones, so it's not that I don't understand the positives people find in them, but I happen to think it takes more strength and is more fulfilling to live without. And really, once you've watched friends die from od'ing on heroin, the whole thing loses it's glamour.

 

[billy_sailing]

Apart from it being illegal and we are told by Jesus to obey the law of the land....

But then, weed is much less destructive than alcohol....

 

[arizona_sunshine]

Eating, breathing, sleeping...existing...all are self serving.

Eating, breathing and sleeping are required to sustain life of our physical bodies, which I consider to be God-given.

Eating & sleeping to points of excess I would consider sinful.

Deliberately destroying one's own body by not eating, breathing or sleeping I would consider sinful.

I feel there are exceptions to this, but ultimately and in general, this is my perspective.

In addition, it is my obligation, as a self-proclaimed follower of Christ, to make my existance more than self-serving. I am to exist for the benefit of others. If anyone has missed that lesson, they understand little of Christ and His example.

 

[GreenDragon]

Deliberately destroying one's own body by not eating, breathing or sleeping I would consider sinful.

What about dieting to lose weight? You are "disfiguring" your body to feel and look better.

Eating certain types of food could be called "self-serving", the only person it benefits is you. Would you stop eating chocolate or candy though?

 

[arizona_sunshine]

What about dieting to lose weight? You are "disfiguring" your body to feel and look better.

Eating certain types of food could be called "self-serving", the only person it benefits is you. Would you stop eating chocolate or candy though?

For the record, I did offer that I feel there are exceptions to my ultimate opinion. Here:

I feel there are exceptions to this, but ultimately and in general, this is my perspective.

However.

I do not consider 'dieting', for the purpose of improving one's health, synonymous with 'destroying a physical body.'

I also addressed your second question here:

Eating & sleeping to points of excess I would consider sinful.

I would consider excessive indulging in chocolate and/or candy ultimately sinful, sure.

Give up chocolate? Let's not get personal, mister.

Listen. Please try to detatch yourself as best you can from the cliche connotation carried by the word 'sin.' I prefer not to use the term, but anything else would not express the "Christian" theology-based indiscretion of which I speak.

I do not personally consider destroying one's body by careless over-indulgence, self-inflicted deprevation, or recreational usage of mind-altering substances to be compatible with the selfless example and teaching of Christ. On that basis, I consider them sinful.