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God also made poison ivy and plants with arsenic. You want to consume some of that? He made poppies, so opium is okay as well, right?
God created man with a brain that's supposed to have common sense. If something you are taking/smoking/eating changes your state of mind, it probably is not a good thing.
I really dislike your signature, but I gotta say you hit the nail on the head... Let's throw in Belladonna too.. We can eat that like it's going out of style right? Also.. yummy spider and snake venom.. God made it so it must be good for us..
Again actually it is... the animals needed the poisons to survive. We use the poison for anti-venom if we are bit. God did indeed develop nature in an awesome way and things counter-act. I worry about all the plants and such destroyed in the rainforest that we'll never have a chance to test. There could be amazing cures there. And generally the cure or step in the right direction for the cure is generally found in the land the disease or issue originates, which makes sense.
I don't think he was claiming that those things have no use. But he was talking about people justifying substance abuse because "God made it so it's okay." When things are used in the correct context, they are great and helpful. When they're taken out of that context, they become toxic/harmful/dangerous. That doesn't just go for plants/drugs/food: that goes for most things we do/believe/think/hear/see in life.
Hello brothers and sisters in Christ!
I would like your advice. My friend and I got into a heated argument on this. It began with her asking me if drinking was a sin. I told her that getting drunk was a sin and that being drunk is not viewed positively in the Bible. I told her I wasn't sure of the verses and couldn't tell her exactly, but I tried my best to qoute. She surprisingly disagreed with my view on me. We usually agree on everything together. She asked me how was it a sin. Basically, I told her that we should be living examples of Christ, and Christ did not get drunk. Instead, the Sadducees and Jewish Leaders accused Jesus of being a drunkard! I said that the Bible states that we should be sober-minded and smoking weed and drinking alcohol will prevent that. I told her since Jesus would not get drunk, and since we should be living like Christ, I told her we shouldn't either.
I also stated that Jesus did drink, He drank wine, but did not get drunk off of it. So, drinking alcohol isn't bad, scientifically, a little can be quite good! But drinking a lot and getting drunk is very harmful. She said well what if I am in my room smoking or getting drunk and no one new. Like, what if I was with my family and wanted to get a little drunk. I told her the Word says our body is a temple of God and that it should be used to glorify Him, and getting drunk and getting high which keeps you from being sober-minded does not glorify Him. And if what we do is not glorifying God, then we shouldn't do it. She said well what I ate didn't glorify God. That was a weird analogy, so I wasn't sure how to reply. She asking, "Is watching Family Guy bad then?" And I said, That's hard.(Because I watch Family Guy) I said that the Bible says we shouldn't lay our eyes on anything evil. I felt guilty then.
So she wanted to know if I thought it was a sin to get drunk or smoke weed, so I said yes, that I think getting drunk and smoking weed is a sin. Well, we started raising our voices, I know it was bad to start yelling. And well, as she was defending it, I said, "Imagine yourself in front of God right now and He tells you that you shouldn't get drunk or smoke weed and you are yelling at Him saying, but it's okay if I'm doing it in my room where no one sees me!" Probably pushed her buttons so we started yelling. So I yelled, "Why are you defending it!?" And she said because she can, and asked well what about my sisters who got drunk at the house, was that a sin?" And I said, "In my opinion, yes I think that was bad." She got angry and I said, "I'm not saying drinking is bad, I myself will probably drink and drink wine when I am older, but I will not get drunk because it is wrong." She then said, "It wouldn't be bad if you did it like once a month." And I said, "That's like me saying it is okay to watch pornography once a month."(If anyone watches pornography, I am sorry, no offense.)
I said a sin is a sin in God's eyes. She argued it doesn't say anywhere in the bible specifically that it is bad to smoke marijuana. I said it doesn't specifically say anywhere in the Bible that you shouldn't rape a child, but we know it is a sin and wrong. She argued saying does it say anywhere in the Bible about rape. I remembered and said, "Yes, it states if a man rapes a woman then he must marry her, it says that in the Old Testament about rape." That was the end of that part. Overall, we got into a yelling match. I stated this isn't coming from me, but I am just stating what I read from the Bible. She yelled that God didn't say it, and I said that God did because scripture states that God breathed the words on the page; therefore, God in fact said all the stuff about getting drunk and not being sober minded.
So, at the end of it all, I lost control and we were yelling at the end of it. I yelled, "You asked the question! I am giving you the answer!" She was telling me to shut up, and stop getting so emotional about it. I was mad, so I went to get my Bible and told her that I was going to show her the passages in the Bible. She said she didn't care and stormed out of the room yelling leave me alone.
She went downstairs, and now I am up in my room writing this question.
So... what do you think about this? Would you consider getting drunk or high in your room all alone bad? What about anything else that we talked about.
I know I shouldn't have lost my cool. I just get emotional when it comes to what God says, and I know that it is wrong because I shouldn't yell. It just like, If someone is disagreeing with me and what the Bible says, then I feel like they are disagreeing with God, and I get real emotional about stuff like that. Like it says, I gentle answer turns away wrath, but an unkind answer will stir up more anger. I failed that. I get caught up in my emotions and know I shouldn't. I just want to make sure I was giving her the Truth, and using the Bible as my evidence. I also want to make sure I am not giving false answers, hopefully I wasn't. I will be better about approaching topics like these next time, and keeping the conversation calm and collected. Thanks for any replies!
I don't think he was claiming that those things have no use. But he was talking about people justifying substance abuse because "God made it so it's okay." When things are used in the correct context, they are great and helpful. When they're taken out of that context, they become toxic/harmful/dangerous. That doesn't just go for plants/drugs/food: that goes for most things we do/believe/think/hear/see in life.
Agreed. I think everyone has some sort of addiction or put toxins into their bodies. People say weed is a waste of time and money and an escape from reality, but most t.v/movies do the exact same thing.
It is easy to point the finger at alcohol and drugs, but if we really took a good look at ourselves, I think it would be hard pressed to find a person who really treats their body as a temple.(Don't get me started on the American diet)
""Why do you look at the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?"Or how can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' and behold, the log is in your own eye?"You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye. Matt. 7:3-5
I do not view smoking weed as a sin. I hate when people go on about it being bad for you ,weed makes you dumb, weed causes less conscious decisions. In fact if you have ever tried cannabis it makes you more insightful, more creative, more uplifted. Like all things there is a good and bad side to cannabis. But if you can use it right it has many benefits.
I love Belladonna, its a great marijuana strain, high CBD content. Oh, you were talking about Belladonna the plant, yeah that is poison and can kill you, I would stay away. I heard eating marijuana has never killed anyone though...
I know in Genesis God said that he gave us every plant yielding seed on earth, but I never knew he gave us spider and snake venom, I thought that stuff came from insects and reptiles?
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