Drinking and smoking pot, but in your room by yourself?

[MyLordMySavior]

Thanks for all of the answers! This friend of mine, we have known each other for 8 years (since 5th grade), so we were over it 15 minutes later. She does not smoke weed. The reason she asked is because because her other good friend starting smoking weed( a senior). Her friend "Tried it" and then, what do you know, has now developed an addiction to it and cannot stop smoking it. She has fallen into buying and selling it, and it has gotten pretty bad according to my friend. It sounds like her friend wants to stop but can't. I think this was the reason she asked me. The reason she asked if drinking was a sin was because her sisters get drunk, and she drank a little bit. I told her my view and hopefully this will help her. I will be praying for her and would be very blessed and grateful if you could as well.

In my high school, many of the kids there have tried or continually smoke weed are fallen into other sins as well. The people who I know who smokes it, their faces are pale, the usually have bad acne, teeth are yellow, and they don't have good grades or get in trouble frequently. They also don't seem to care about school very much or what their future holds. I have never seen anything good come from long term usage of weed. I get sad because the people I know who smoke weed do not look good.


I would never smoke weed because I honestly don't think God would want me to. It is harmful, smoking it, the pill version is better because the actual chemicals that help you are absorbed into the blood stream and you don't get the "high." I don't think God would ever want me to be mentally "drunk" or physically. Actually, I know God wouldn't want me to. Bible clearly states it. I believe God want's me to always have a clear mind so I can continually focus on Him. Many people who have started smoking weed develop an addiction, just like my friend's friend and a bondage to it can develop. I can't imagine our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ getting high, therefore I will not and don't think anyone else should either. Weed DOES harm you. Though it has pros, it DOES harm you. 100% does. Why would God want us to use something that would harm us, even if it has some benefits?

 

[xxxxxxtra]

First i wanna address the family guy issue before i foget to. I watched one episode right up to the point that family guys dog was laying back in bed woth family guys wife and they were both smoking a cigarette. Implying that ther had just had sex.. That is beastiality. Not to mention a twisted form of adultery.. So i shut it off and never ever wat hed again.. Same with south park. I saw the first episode with their depiction of Jesus in the boxing ring with satan.. I walked out on that one also.. Never watched again.. They are grievous to the Holy Spirit that lives in the believer. Not to mention contrary to whats right.
As far as the drinking and smoking pot. I am with you on those. Right up to the part of alcohol being good.. It was never for the alcohol that paul says to take a little wine for your stomache.. Its for the tannin(check spelling) in the wine.. It is the same with black tea. It has the same thing.. Alcohol in any measure is bad for your overall health. Also they only mention wine. Not any other fermented drink such as beer or hard liquor. Now are they wrong to drink.. For me no. Because i don't have a problem with them. Although i don't drink.. But for some it could become a real challenge of ones faith..
The important thing here is nothing to do with whether this or that is a sin or not.. The important thing here is you and your friend love one another and thats whats important. Too much wine is something that comes and goes. But to strive against a true friend over such matters is ludicrous.. Call your friend and tell her that she means alot more to you than these questions.. I can promise you this. The division that comes from such arguments does not come from God. But from the evil one.. Love your friend, just as God set an example thru Christ Jesus that we should be merciful... God bless you sister...

 

[stormdancer0]

Whether you are by yourself in your room or out in a crowd, a sin is a sin.

many people say, "Well, it's okay if no one else knows."

The only thing is, God will always know. And it is HE who decides what is sin and what isn't.

THey are both sin, IMO

 

[parsley]

her other good friend starting smoking weed( a senior). Her friend "Tried it" and then, what do you know, has now developed an addiction to it and cannot stop smoking it. She has fallen into buying and selling it, and it has gotten pretty bad according to my friend. It sounds like her friend wants to stop but can't. I think this was the reason she asked me. The reason she asked if drinking was a sin was because her sisters get drunk, and she drank a little bit. I told her my view and hopefully this will help her. I will be praying for her and would be very blessed and grateful if you could as well.

Something to think about... if your friend's friend is dealing, that is a crime that can drag a lot of people down. Even though it all takes place under the HS roof, doesn't mean it's not as harmful as it would be on the side of the road.

A lot of things take place in schools that are overlooked when offenders are minors, and people develop bad habits. Brutality, intimidation, weapons, drug dealing... anything that goes on in public also goes on between classes.

You can get people the help they need before things get worse. I can't tell you how sad our HS reunion was... watching people who thought they were on top of the world then: complain that high school education did nothing for them, jail time and rehab ruined their lives... bitter, unable to keep a job, teeth rotting, memory poor. The right counsel might have turned their lives around early. Being turned in for dealing might have helped some of them (although the dealers didn't always use).

And still, they defended their right to use drugs. They even joked about substances expecting the same reaction they'd get in high school. Drugs may seem worth defending when people start using them, but the effects are glaringly harmful over time. People decay at a fast rate.

Keep praying for both of them, and the sisters. A life doesn't have to spiral downhill.

 

[harvester77]

Smoking weed is a sin. Why? Because its against the law. BUT, if you live in a state that allows it, go ahead. Marijuana has a lot of bad stigma around it, but it isn't all that bad, actually. And getting drunk isn't a sin, although having an addiction to it is. And being drunk isn't recommended as it opens you up to other sins. This is why Paul tells us not get drunk.

Getting drunk is a sin it can and often only does lead to immoral things. Getting tipsy is another matter. I have never seen any enjoyment in getting drunk, throwing up, getting paranoid and feeling depressed the next day. Enjoying a drink and being merry is very different to being drunk.

 

[cam44]

I've been sober 21 days!! And I feel great!!

 

[Conchobar]

EDIT;
Smoking is illegal, drinking to the point of drunkenness is illegal in some public settings but nearly always affects those around you - not to mention yourself.
Stay sober, consider the fruit of your actions for God's sake.
May God guide us all to higher knowledge.

 

[lenamuo]

. I told her the Word says our body is a temple of God and that it should be used to glorify Him, and getting drunk and getting high which keeps you from being sober-minded does not glorify Him. And if what we do is not glorifying God, then we shouldn't do it.

Getting drunk is a sin and I like what you said here about glorifying God. The things we do sometimes do not glorify Him and that is why we shouldn't be doing it. Smoking weed is definitely not glorifying God either because we all know that God is what I call 'unworldly'. Personally I agree with you because we tend to be influenced by what is happening in the world, instead of in God's light.

 

[StarBright]

Awww MLMS, I'm sorry you had a fight with your friend! Although I must say, it sounds like you both got some really good ideas thrown around in there, and it didn't turn into any nasty, personal attacks. If you both had kept your cool, that probably would've been a great, thoughtful conversation

The idea that "my sin doesn't affect anyone else so it's OK" is a bunch of BS. Unless you live alone on an island, what you do most certainly does affect people around you. Even if the specific behavior is only happening behind closed doors, it's affecting who you are as a person, and therefore your influence on others will change either for the better or worse as a result. A smoker for example, may only smoke alone and not hurt anyone else with the secondhand fumes; but what are they teaching others by their behavior? What are they teaching their children? When they become sick and wind up with emphysema or lung cancer, and their family is faced with losing a loved one way too early, can you tell me then that their behind-closed-doors smoking never affected anyone else? It's no different with drinking, drugs, lying, porn. It affects YOU as a person. And YOU have an affect on others. Therefore what you do behind closed doors absolutely touches other people. The cop-out line that you're only hurting yourself and no one else is a bunch of garbage.

 

[StarBright]

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I tip my hat to you, Conch.

 

[Conchobar]

You must be right; I smoked with my old friend on friday night in an effort to be close to him again. I thought it was a way to show him that I didn't look down on him for his actions. I was overcome by guilt because of my past with it. I apologize for my post... I hope I am learning something. I have trouble with mercy versus justice. Thank you for calling me out.

 

[RDKirk]

So... what do you think about this? Would you consider getting drunk or high in your room all alone bad? What about anything else that we talked about.

"Everything is permissible, but not everything is beneficial. Everything is permissible, but not everything is edifying."

What is Paul doing here? First, he's continuing with this:

Are we beginning to commend ourselves again? Or do we need, like some people, letters of recommendation to you or from you? You yourselves are our letter, written on our hearts, known and read by everybody.

You show that you are a letter from Christ, the result of our ministry, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts.

Break away from trying to find a law to follow. Salvation is not in law. Paul raises the bar from obeying the law to something greater. Doing the right thing is not a matter of avoiding what is forbidden, but what is profitable to the Kingdom.

The question for every decision, every action, is not "is it forbidden," but "is it profitable to Jesus?"

So is smoking and drinking in your room profitable to Jesus, or to the Kingdom...or even to you as a Christians? Is it edifying? There is your answer.

 

[CoFrye]

... AGAIN?.... Another thread asking if it is ok to drink and do drugs and still be a Christian?

Im not responding this time.. other than to say, I personally, do believe being drunk and smoking pot are sins. We all have sinned and came short of the glory of God so I am not throwing stones, just stating an opinion.

 

[fuji]

 

[stormdancer0]

God also made poison ivy and plants with arsenic. You want to consume some of that? He made poppies, so opium is okay as well, right?

God created man with a brain that's supposed to have common sense. If something you are taking/smoking/eating changes your state of mind, it probably is not a good thing.

 

[CoFrye]

God also made poison ivy and plants with arsenic. You want to consume some of that? He made poppies, so opium is okay as well, right?

God created man with a brain that's supposed to have common sense. If something you are taking/smoking/eating changes your state of mind, it probably is not a good thing.

I really dislike your signature, but I gotta say you hit the nail on the head... Let's throw in Belladonna too.. We can eat that like it's going out of style right? Also.. yummy spider and snake venom.. God made it so it must be good for us..

 

[CGL1023]

Hello brothers and sisters in Christ!

I would like your advice. My friend and I got into a heated argument on this. It began with her asking me if drinking was a sin. I told her that getting drunk was a sin and that being drunk is not viewed positively in the Bible. I told her I wasn't sure of the verses and couldn't tell her exactly, but I tried my best to qoute. She surprisingly disagreed with my view on me. We usually agree on everything together. She asked me how was it a sin. Basically, I told her that we should be living examples of Christ, and Christ did not get drunk. Instead, the Sadducees and Jewish Leaders accused Jesus of being a drunkard! I said that the Bible states that we should be sober-minded and smoking weed and drinking alcohol will prevent that. I told her since Jesus would not get drunk, and since we should be living like Christ, I told her we shouldn't either.

I also stated that Jesus did drink, He drank wine, but did not get drunk off of it. So, drinking alcohol isn't bad, scientifically, a little can be quite good! But drinking a lot and getting drunk is very harmful. She said well what if I am in my room smoking or getting drunk and no one new. Like, what if I was with my family and wanted to get a little drunk. I told her the Word says our body is a temple of God and that it should be used to glorify Him, and getting drunk and getting high which keeps you from being sober-minded does not glorify Him. And if what we do is not glorifying God, then we shouldn't do it. She said well what I ate didn't glorify God. That was a weird analogy, so I wasn't sure how to reply. She asking, "Is watching Family Guy bad then?" And I said, That's hard.(Because I watch Family Guy) I said that the Bible says we shouldn't lay our eyes on anything evil. I felt guilty then.

So she wanted to know if I thought it was a sin to get drunk or smoke weed, so I said yes, that I think getting drunk and smoking weed is a sin. Well, we started raising our voices, I know it was bad to start yelling. And well, as she was defending it, I said, "Imagine yourself in front of God right now and He tells you that you shouldn't get drunk or smoke weed and you are yelling at Him saying, but it's okay if I'm doing it in my room where no one sees me!" Probably pushed her buttons so we started yelling. So I yelled, "Why are you defending it!?" And she said because she can, and asked well what about my sisters who got drunk at the house, was that a sin?" And I said, "In my opinion, yes I think that was bad." She got angry and I said, "I'm not saying drinking is bad, I myself will probably drink and drink wine when I am older, but I will not get drunk because it is wrong." She then said, "It wouldn't be bad if you did it like once a month." And I said, "That's like me saying it is okay to watch pornography once a month."(If anyone watches pornography, I am sorry, no offense.)

I said a sin is a sin in God's eyes. She argued it doesn't say anywhere in the bible specifically that it is bad to smoke marijuana. I said it doesn't specifically say anywhere in the Bible that you shouldn't rape a child, but we know it is a sin and wrong. She argued saying does it say anywhere in the Bible about rape. I remembered and said, "Yes, it states if a man rapes a woman then he must marry her, it says that in the Old Testament about rape." That was the end of that part. Overall, we got into a yelling match. I stated this isn't coming from me, but I am just stating what I read from the Bible. She yelled that God didn't say it, and I said that God did because scripture states that God breathed the words on the page; therefore, God in fact said all the stuff about getting drunk and not being sober minded.

So, at the end of it all, I lost control and we were yelling at the end of it. I yelled, "You asked the question! I am giving you the answer!" She was telling me to shut up, and stop getting so emotional about it. I was mad, so I went to get my Bible and told her that I was going to show her the passages in the Bible. She said she didn't care and stormed out of the room yelling leave me alone.

She went downstairs, and now I am up in my room writing this question.


So... what do you think about this? Would you consider getting drunk or high in your room all alone bad? What about anything else that we talked about.


I know I shouldn't have lost my cool. I just get emotional when it comes to what God says, and I know that it is wrong because I shouldn't yell. It just like, If someone is disagreeing with me and what the Bible says, then I feel like they are disagreeing with God, and I get real emotional about stuff like that. Like it says, I gentle answer turns away wrath, but an unkind answer will stir up more anger. I failed that. I get caught up in my emotions and know I shouldn't. I just want to make sure I was giving her the Truth, and using the Bible as my evidence. I also want to make sure I am not giving false answers, hopefully I wasn't. I will be better about approaching topics like these next time, and keeping the conversation calm and collected. Thanks for any replies!

[FONT=&quot]To me, these issues are not cut and dried. For myself, I would be concerned about desecrating the the temple of the Holy Spirit, whose temple we are. I have the idea that when Jesus describes the 'narrow way' it may only be a few inches wide. People traveling along it will have to turn sideways to move forward. [/FONT]

 

[JCFantasy23]

It sounds like she isn't ready to hear it or just doesn't want to hear it. When that happens there's not much you can do but try to educate and then move on. Sorry it resulted in a fight, arguments between friends is never fun

 

[fuji]

God also made poison ivy and plants with arsenic. You want to consume some of that? He made poppies, so opium is okay as well, right?

Sure! If poison ivy wasn't poison, good thing marijuana isn't but instead contains numerous medical benefits. A google search can answer that question. Let me google that for you

Also I've taken opium many times, especially when I have had an accident and visit the hospital. More than likely most people on this forum have, it is after all a common substance in many pain medications.

Also stormdancer(one who dances in storms?), if you can find me some links of people overdosing on marijuana alone, I won't make another post in this thread. Lets say at least 5 ODs and go back as far as 50 years if you have to, I think you might be surprised. Maybe as surprised as I was when I read how misinformed others are on marijuana.

Thank you for your time.

 

[fuji]

I really dislike your signature, but I gotta say you hit the nail on the head... Let's throw in Belladonna too.. We can eat that like it's going out of style right? Also.. yummy spider and snake venom.. God made it so it must be good for us..

I love Belladonna, its a great marijuana strain, high CBD content. Oh, you were talking about Belladonna the plant, yeah that is poison and can kill you, I would stay away. I heard eating marijuana has never killed anyone though...

I know in Genesis God said that he gave us every plant yielding seed on earth, but I never knew he gave us spider and snake venom, I thought that stuff came from insects and reptiles?