Draft Talk in Washington

[Selznak]

WASHINGTON (AFP) - [size=-1]A senior Republican lawmaker said that deteriorating security in Iraq may force the United States to reintroduce the military draft.[/size]

"There's not an American ... that doesn't understand what we are engaged in today and what the prospects are for the future," Senator Chuck Hagel told a Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing on post-occupation Iraq.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1521&u=/afp/20040420/pl_afp/us_iraq_military_draft&printer=1

 

[Agrippa]

I think there's already a thread on this in Politics.

Anyway, I believe Rumsfeld still opposes a draft. After all, he didn't want to increase the size of the army by two divisions.

 

[Selznak]

I think there's already a thread on this in Politics.

Sorry Agrippa! I scanned the threads over in the politics forum and apparently missed it.

Anyway, I believe Rumsfeld still opposes a draft. After all, he didn't want to increase the size of the army by two divisions.

I certainly hope he does. There is no need for a draft.

 

[paxvobiscum]

Great bring it on! I live right next (well close to a lead smelter) and the last time this happen us Canadian's made a lot of bucks.

 

[xMinionX]

Oh, great...

I'm probably the only liberal actually trying to get into the military.

 

[Agrippa]

I certainly hope he does. There is no need for a draft.

Agreed.

 

[KenH]

I am opposed to a draft since slavery was outlawed by amendment to the federal constitution.

But if there is another draft I think it will be a universal draft where every young man and woman would be forced to give at least one year of service - either military or non-military.

 

[Rocinante]

Well, this ought to pep up the anti-war movement.

It's easy to be pro-Bush when you don't have to actually GO to the war.

It's easy to be pro-Bush.......until you think about your sons and daughters forced to go to the war.

Oh yes, this ups the stakes a bit.

 

[Zoot]

Does anyone know about the increased budget for the draft system? I heard about it somewhere...

 

[Zoot]

I can't find anything about it online at first glance. Never mind.

 

[Ebed-Yahweh]

Here's some information on one of the bills in congress right now. The other one is called H.R. 163

Federal Legislation
March 14, 2003


S. 89—Universal National Service Act of 2003

Action Requested:
None at this time. HSLDA's National Center is tracking this legislation.

Background:
Official purpose: A bill to provide for the common defense by requiring that all young persons in the United States, including women, perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes.

The language of this bill mandates a national service obligation for every U.S. citizen and permanent resident, aged 18-26. It authorizes the President to establish both the number of people to be selected for military service, and the means of selection. Additionally, the measure requires those not selected specifically for military service to perform their national service obligation in a civilian capacity for at least two years.


S. 89 language permits:


Deferments for education only through high school graduation, or until the age of 20.

Exceptions are made for those with 1) extreme hardship, or 2) physical or mental disability.

Conscientious objectors are defined and directed by the Military Selective Service Act (50 U.S.C. 456(j)).


Introduced: January 7, 2003 by Sen. Ernest F. Hollings [SC]


Cosponsors: None.


Status:


1/7/2003: Read twice and referred to the Senate Committee on Armed Services.

(From http://www.hslda.org/Legislation/Na...S89/default.asp)

 

[Ikaria]

Yet another good reason to be living in Australia right now... as I am.

But if I was back home, I'd be a conscientious objector.

 

[Agrippa]

Here's some information on one of the bills in congress right now. The other one is called H.R. 163

Federal Legislation
March 14, 2003


S. 89—Universal National Service Act of 2003

Action Requested:
None at this time. HSLDA's National Center is tracking this legislation.

Background:
Official purpose: A bill to provide for the common defense by requiring that all young persons in the United States, including women, perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes.

The language of this bill mandates a national service obligation for every U.S. citizen and permanent resident, aged 18-26. It authorizes the President to establish both the number of people to be selected for military service, and the means of selection. Additionally, the measure requires those not selected specifically for military service to perform their national service obligation in a civilian capacity for at least two years.


S. 89 language permits:


Deferments for education only through high school graduation, or until the age of 20.

Exceptions are made for those with 1) extreme hardship, or 2) physical or mental disability.

Conscientious objectors are defined and directed by the Military Selective Service Act (50 U.S.C. 456(j)).


Introduced: January 7, 2003 by Sen. Ernest F. Hollings [SC]


Cosponsors: None.


Status:


1/7/2003: Read twice and referred to the Senate Committee on Armed Services.

(From http://www.hslda.org/Legislation/Na...S89/default.asp)

S 89 like HR 163 is sponsored by a Democrat. If you don't like it, you can't blame Bush for it.

 

[Ebed-Yahweh]

I would never dream of blaming a puppet when the master pulls his strings.

 

[oldrooster]

I would never dream of blaming a puppet when the master pulls his strings.

And what country do you live in ?

 

[Ebed-Yahweh]

The same country I've always lived in. Ever since I was born anyway.

 

[Deacon]

*Rolls eyes* Thats a good answer I tell ya. Woooo you definitely got me. A puppet? Man some people just don't get it...and probably never will.

 

[xMinionX]

 

[Ebed-Yahweh]

Hi, Deacon. What don't I get?

 

[xMinionX]

Hi, Deacon. What don't I get?

You never will.