Dr Lehman Strauss

[visionary]

James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting. - James 1:1

My feelings (correct me if I'm wrong) are that the Messianic church is a scattered flock. Some may be Orthodox, Catholic, Pentecostal, Protestant, Charismatic, Word of Faith, or some may have their own Messianic church they enjoy attending. I consider Lehman Strauss a Messianic who just happened to be in the Baptist church.

Isn't that like saying that Gad tribe who never crossed the river Jordan and still considered a part of Israel? It is a yes and no answer....

 

[AbbaLove]

I was trying to answer that to a previous post. The man I was talking about was a Dr Leyman Strauss, who taught the bible with grace and dignity.

You previously said that Dr. Strauss "was oblivious to his Jewish heritage"? What do you base that on when you say ...

This week Dr Strauss has been talking about his Jewish heritage and this is available on demand using the link below (Sunday broadcast). That story will be available for a limited time. He is one of my favorite speakers. BBN Program Schedule

My feelings (correct me if I'm wrong) are that the Messianic church is a scattered flock. Some may be Orthodox, Catholic, Pentecostal, Protestant, Charismatic, Word of Faith, or some may have their own Messianic church they enjoy attending. I consider Lehman Strauss a Messianic who just happened to be in the Baptist church.

Yes, you are wrong! The whole reason for the Messianic Movement that began in the 60s & 70s was because Messianic Jews didn't want to be associated with all the divisiveness among Christian denominations that railed against each other and for the most part were still into supersessionism (RT/FT) during the 60s & 70s.

Your posts in this MJ forum thread comes across as if your denominational theology is superior to Messianic Judaism.

 

[rockytopva]

You previously said that Dr. Strauss "was oblivious to his Jewish heritage"? What do you base that on when you say ...

Yes, you are wrong! The whole reason for the Messianic Movement that began in the 60s & 70s was because Messianic Jews didn't want to be associated with all the divisiveness among Christian denominations that railed against each other and for the most part were still into supersessionism (RT/FT) during the 60s & 70s.

Your posts in this MJ forum thread comes across as if your denominational theology is superior to Messianic Judaism.

I do not like the denomination. The Baptist denomination I was brought up in no longer has conferences and the Pentecostal denomination that I belong to no longer has the Wesley style revival I was brought up in.

There are no denominations that appeal to me these days, none whatsoever.

 

[rockytopva]

I have never heard Dr. Lehman Strauss emphasis any denominational either, not the first time.

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

Isn't that like saying that Gad tribe who never crossed the river Jordan and still considered a part of Israel? It is a yes and no answer....

hmn I thought that was Mannessa ...

 

[visionary]

hmn I thought that was Mannessa ...

him too

 

[rockytopva]

Isn't that like saying that Gad tribe who never crossed the river Jordan and still considered a part of Israel? It is a yes and no answer....

James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting. - James 1:1

I believe that...

The Apostle Paul - Was the Apostle to the uncircumcision
The other Apostles - Were the Apostles to the circumcision

7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;
8 (For he that wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles
9 And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.
10 Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same which I also was forward to do. - Galatians 2

James was an apostle to the circumcision, when he began his epistle he began it to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad.

I believe that the Messianic is a scattered flock. I do not believe that you can go to each Messianic church and find everything the same. But who knows if things will form into a more denominational type setting... But... Is that what you want?

Dr Lehmon Strauss got his start way back in the 1920s... The Messianic church, which began in the 1960s, was not an option for him at that time. So, there was no river of Jordan for him to forge.

 

[visionary]

What I was getting at from my illustration is.. if you do not cross the river, you also drift into obscurity and are not part of Israel? While you point to Paul and to the "churches" of the first century, that isn't what exists today... there has been a lot of drifting.

 

[rockytopva]

What I was getting at from my illustration is.. if you do not cross the river, you also drift into obscurity and are not part of Israel? While you point to Paul and to the "churches" of the first century, that isn't what exists today... there has been a lot of drifting.

Yes... There has been a lot of drifting. Our order of service was from the Methodist in the 1800's and both Methodist and Pentecostal alike have ceased to have the revivals they once had...

And Absalom met the servants of David. And Absalom rode upon a mule, and the mule went under the thick boughs of a great oak, and his head caught hold of the oak, and he was taken up between the heaven and the earth; and the mule that was under him went away. - 2 Samuel 18:9

Drift too far away and the mule will walk on!

 

[Meowzltov]

This week Dr Strauss has been talking about his Jewish heritage and this is available on demand using the link below (Sunday broadcast). That story will be available for a limited time. He is one of my favorite speakers.

What does he mention? From your summary, it doesn't sound like he lived a life honoring his Jewish identity.

 

[rockytopva]

What does he mention? From your summary, it doesn't sound like he lived a life honoring his Jewish identity.

On the link below click, 'Sunday' and he talks about it.

BBN Program Schedule

 

[Meowzltov]

On the link below click, 'Sunday' and he talks about it.

BBN Program Schedule

I really tried. I clicked on the Bible Study Program with Dr. Lehman Strauss, but all it did was refresh the same page. I tried this with two different browsers.

 

[rockytopva]

I really tried. I clicked on the Bible Study Program with Dr. Lehman Strauss, but all it did was refresh the same page. I tried this with two different browsers.

It should have opened up in another window. Check the bar on the bottom and make sure that two windows are not opened. If so, click the second window. BBNRadio also has apps for small devices. Also... BBNRadio does not promote denominations, but Christ Jesus and the Holy Word.

 

[rockytopva]

I really tried. I clicked on the Bible Study Program with Dr. Lehman Strauss, but all it did was refresh the same page. I tried this with two different browsers.

Also... In the "On Demand" window, click Sunday.

 

[Meowzltov]

Also... In the "On Demand" window, click Sunday.

That did it!

BTW, I'm sure that BBN is Protestant, even if they are non-denom. Probably also Evangelical.

 

[rockytopva]

That did it!

BTW, I'm sure that BBN is Protestant, even if they are non-denom. Probably also Evangelical.

Dr. Lehman Strauss is unique... I find no one else like him.

 

[Meowzltov]

Dr. Lehman Strauss is unique... I find no one else like him.

I don't like him at all. He has completely walked away from being a Jew. For all practical purposes, he has become a Gentile.

 

[rockytopva]

I don't like him at all. He has completely walked away from being a Jew. For all practical purposes, he has become a Gentile.

He may have. There are not many actually Jewish preachers in my realm of Christianity, for me it is a treat to hear them speak.

 

[Meowzltov]

He may have. There are not many actually Jewish preachers in my realm of Christianity, for me it is a treat to hear them speak.

Here is a whole bunch of videos of Mark Kinzer speaking. Mark Kinzer is THE foremost Messianic Jew, real avant guard.
mark kinzer - YouTube

Here is Stuart Dauermann speaking, another really great MJ:

 

[Dave-W]

James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting. - James 1:1

My feelings (correct me if I'm wrong) are that the Messianic church is a scattered flock. Some may be Orthodox, Catholic, Pentecostal, Protestant, Charismatic, Word of Faith, or some may have their own Messianic church they enjoy attending.

The clue there is "12 tribes." NOT the gentiles. Jewish believers from ALL the tribes of Israel.