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Dr. Dino's Science?
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lucaspa
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OK, let's address them.
Rom 1:20 "Ever since God created the world, his invisible qualities, both his eternal power and his divine nature, have been clearly seen; they are perceived in the things God has made."
This doesn't say how God made them, does it Francie?
Now, look at Darwin:
""To my mind it accords better with what we know of the laws impressed on matter by the Creator, that the production and extinction of the past and present inhabitants of the world should have been due to secondary causes, like those determining the birth and death of the individual." Origin pg. 449.
So, evolution is also seeing God's eternal power and divine nature by looking at the laws for nature that He created. Pretty smart of God to use Darwinian selection to design organisms, isn't it?
If you believe God created each species directly, OTOH, you end up having to conclude that God is cruel, stupid, and suffering from Alzheimer's. Are those really His invisible qualities or divine nature?
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JohnR7
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I don't really like hypothetical, but I am going to do this one anyways. Let's say you can not find a job anywhere. Your wife and kids are starving and you have to have money and you have to have a job to feed them. The only job available is a job to teach creation science in a christian high school. What would you teach your class, knowing it has to be christian?
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Francie, as for addressing post #110 (or whatever it was), I don't recognize Paul as having any standing in a scientific discussion. Let me know when you are ready to talk about science.
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AS I said GOd's word's are the absolute truth. You are not looking for the truth here you are just putting me down because I am not afraid to stand up for my beleifs !God created the earth and every thing in it includung all of you !you just can't handle the truth because you have been blinded by satan. you asked me for an opinon I gave it 1Evolution is nothing but a LIE< LIE< LIE< LIE<
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No, it's not calling you a liar.
You basically have two positions in determining the history of His Creation.
1) His Word (subject to interpretation)
2) His Creation
If you take His Word literally (at least the way Hovind takes it), you conclude that the Earth is 6000 years old, a global flood took place 4000 years ago, and all organisms were spontaneously created around the same time. Not to mention life on Earth was repopulated from pairs of animals from Noah's Ark.
Now, if you examine the real-world evidence you will find that:
The world looks much, much, much older than 6000 years (by a number of magnitudes). There is no evidence of a global flood 4000 years ago. And the evidence for life on Earth suggests they were not created spontaneously at once, but rather, evolved from earlier forms of life. And keep in mind, none of this is exactly a new revelation. This is the conclusion of ongoing scientific discovery for the past 200 years from people of every faith imaginable, including Christianity.
Either way, there's a dilemma. Either Genesis is not meant to be taken as a literal history of the Earth, or His Creation is filled with false evidence. If you believe that Genesis is the literal history of the Earth, then how do explain the real-world evidence in His Creation which points to the contrary?
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Because (as lucaspa continually points out) there's a big difference between creation and creationism.
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Nobody has suggested that God couldn't have created the Earth and everything in it. The debate between creationism and evolution, however, is a matter of how He did it.
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Yes. Yes, I do. Creation is the issue of whether or not God created everything. Creationism addresses how God supposedly created (based on a literal reading of Genesis).
Science, on the other hand, doesn't address whether or not God created. Only how. And they figure out "how" by examining the evidence in His Creation.
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I have nothing else to say on this matter except 
for we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities,against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. )I don 't care how he made the earth I just know He did!I am more concerned with being the christian person he wants me to be and my salvation!You need to be more worried about your salvation than how God created the earth, why don't you ask Him that at the final judgement day!
for we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities,against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. )I don 't care how he made the earth I just know He did!I am more concerned with being the christian person he wants me to be and my salvation!You need to be more worried about your salvation than how God created the earth, why don't you ask Him that at the final judgement day!
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lucaspa
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The issue isn't that it's Christian. I couldn't lie to the kids that creation science is valid when it isn't. Remember, John, about falsification in science. Creation science has been falsified -- shown to be wrong. I couldn't be dishonest and lie to the kids.
I'd go dig ditches or deliver pizzas instead.
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lucaspa
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Francie, remember that creation and creationism are two different things. Creation is the statement that God created. Creationism is a particular how of creation. So it's very easy to be a Christian but simply not believe that God created the way creationism says He did.
Very easy, since what God tells us in nature is that God didn't create that way.
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Take a look at this thread for more information:http://www.christianforums.com/threads/38483.html
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Dr. Kent Hovind has good education, I don't think it would be too hard for him find a good job.....
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