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troodon

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Dutchunter said:
Troodon....I'm not going to waste my time with someone who goes sentence by sentence and can't even figure out how obvious a difference there is between a theory proven to work- The A-bomb- and one that is still a theory not proven- evolution.
You will not waste your time with a person who categorically deals with your remarks? How am I to respond to you then?

I do get it. Evolution is not fact. There is plenty of evidence that falsifies evolution- and I'm not just talking about frauds. YEC "theory" has not been falsified. Why don't you try to back up the skull- human evolution theory- first?
Do you feel it is intellectually honest to continue to say that there is evidence falsifying evolution when you have not brought up any specific examples of said evidence?

You asked me for evidence supporting evolution; I delivered. You have neither addressed that evidence nor given your own evidence... and yet you feel it is I who am not willing to carry out a proper discussion.

Weak sauce.
 
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Please, if you feel you have evidence falsifying evolution, create a thread designed to discuss that evidence. Without presenting said evidence I will be forced to conclude that you only *think* evolution is falsified when it in fact is not.

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Dutchunter said:
Check the other thread.
I'm sorry but I am not going to read and refute 56 separate AiG articles for you. Why don't you pick your favorite one and create a thread on it or, better yet, why not take your favorite falsification and put your own little spin on it without just posting someone elses thoughts and work (I have done so on numerous occasions).

BTW...no one can prove the tooth fairy doesn't really exist either.
If you say that evolution has been falsified then why are you comparing it to an unfalsifiable entity? Maybe you should rethink your position on the matter.
 
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We have in this forum presented tons of the scientific evidence supporting evolution and an old earth. All you have to do is read through the threads. You might start with Troodon's thread that he bumped on the fossil record. There is evidence.

Now, in response, you could then show why that evidence does NOT support his proposition. That is how the debate process works.
 
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And I see tons of evidence for the other side. Once again you didn't address the content of my post- which was that somebody else is the one who posted a page with all kinds of links etc so I'd have to weave my way thru it.

The fossil record does not prove evolution occurs. I just posted this...here it is again: http://www.evolutiondeceit.com/chapter5.php
 
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Dutchunter said:
Did you know if you actually proved evolution you'd win a Noble Prize? Or whatever the tooth fairy would bring.
Again, you are displaying your ignorance of the subject, since a theory is not something that can be "proved". Evolution and gravity and all these other theories are not things which can be proved, as you have been told over and over. The point is that theories CAN be falsified and those which are not valid ARE falsified. There is every incentive in the scientific community to falsify it. Not only a nobel prize, but fame and fortune of all kinds comes to the scientist who can falsify it. Many, many have tried. No one has succeeded.

Facts are things which can be true or not. Theories explain what the facts mean.
 
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What are you talking about? Evolution is a theory. Theories are not proven. Therefore, nobody would win an award for proving a theory since an attempt to prove a theory would show that the man was ignorant of scientific principles.

Keep that straight: you don't prove theories.
 
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Yeah...so that's why you responded to my post on that, right? There were THREE that Creationists SUPPOSEDLY couldn't catagorize. I pointed out that wasn't entirely true, and in fact even if they couldn't decide whether to say monkey or man it didn't prove squat as far as them being the missing link. Tip of the iceberg? If you mean when it comes to lies and wishful thinking.
 
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It means a great deal. If they cannot be firmly classed as "ape" or "human", it shows they have features of both - in other words, they are perfectly transitional - exactly as predicted by evolution.

I sell you no lies, and if you make this allegation once more I will report your post, because frankly your sniping and immature arrogance is getting on my [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse].

We can go on - if you are willing to debate as an adult. You might want to start with the evidence posted here: http://christianforums.com/t40560
 
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