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You a witch ..... never Michelle you are lovable as always .... (besides that is my title rememberMiss Shelby said:well, that's what I am trying to do, however pathetically, and I'm being accused of being righteously judgemental. This may come as a huge shock to some people, but I really do WANT people to like me. I don't like being viewed as a witch.( I really don't)
Michelle
fragmentsofdreams said:Why is homosexuality the only serious sin people care about when considering where to place children?
WarriorAngel said:I dont know about your state hon, but in mine, you need classes, background checks, abuse checks, police checks, and basically the foster system where I live at now keeps a very close eye on the 'child' who is in a foster home.
ALSO, a child is no longer allowed in the system longer than 18 months, with the foster families given the option to adopt first. or family members. AND the child must agree with that adoption if they like them or not. {Which is gr8 news}
SO as disgusting as this was for you...and believe me it is disgusting...it not the norm now.
Foster care systems where I live are very careful and extremely cautious and the child is questioned about how they are treated in the home.
And perhaps outcries from folks like you, the system needed an overhaul desperately.
I am sorry beyond words about this treatment, and offer you HUGE hugs if I could personally give them I would.
Altho, now we have cleaned up the foster care...we should look forward to keeping it clean for all aspects of the child.
Both to remove physical harm and spiritual.
Peace to you.
Lel said:About the same way we make people aware of gossip and lying and gluttony and greed and all those things?
Again, where is your basis that one is worse than the other?Teshi said:As opposed, of course, to the lesser danger to the soul that lies in being molested and beaten and neglected and told, time and time again, by action and by words, that no one in this country thinks you're worth a damn thing?
Irenaeus said:Guys,
As lamentable as the foster care system can be, let us not forget that simply allowing homosexual couples to adopt children on the basis that they may make "better parents than some heterosexuals I know" is not only wrong from a Christian moral point of view, but it's a logical red herring.
There has been such a collapse in the family over the past fourty years, that we all need to some serious soul searching and make sure we are raising kids to be faithful, temperate, and courageous.
These three virtues can be applicable to all, pagan and Christian. I can assure that a good portion of children in foster care would simply not be there if ordinary people like you and I did not give up on one another in a loving relationship...i.e., marriage.
The breakdown of marriage has led to the breakdown of Western civilization. This same breakdown of marriage has led to an asexualization of our culture. This same asexualization has been used as a dogmatic and cultural tool for those who (knowingly or not) want to carve a new humanity...maybe not the "superman" anticipated by Nietzsche, but a man radically "free" (as the world considers freedom) from all perceived or actual moral constraints. Man no longer wants to obey his nature. In the end, the words of the Savior will ring true: He who sins is a slave of sin.
If St. Augustine said the City of Man consists of those who love self to the contempt of God, then he is proved again by these who love themselves so much, that they will annihilate themselves to remake the human race anew. "Ye shall be like gods," the Devil lied, "knowing good and evil." What the Devil knew, however, was that under the auspice of some good, he could tempt man into doing anything...even forfeiting his knowledge of objective good and evil by repeated wrong doing.
We as Christians, especially Catholic Christians, should never be encouraging a relationship that is based upon a violation of natural law and then promoting it on a simply utilitarian basis, as some of you are doing here...I am appalled by such a suggestion.
We may not do evil that "good" may come of it...the roots are rotten, and this tree will not grow!
It comes with the territory of actually listening to Church teaching. Don't worry about it. Id rather be following Rome than clamoring for tolerance while at the same time not tolerating opposing viewpoints.MissShelby said:well, that's what I am trying to do, however pathetically, and I'm being accused of being righteously judgemental.
Teshi,Teshi said:It is not true. I wish it were and it must be nice for you to believe it, but it's not.
Let me put my view another way:
"Kids need a balanced diet of healthy foods, but right now we don't have enough fruits and vegetables available to go around. So therefore we will just not feed them at all for fear of giving them unhealthy food."
This is what all you who promote kids staying in the system instead of going to permanent placements are advocating. And now I really am unsubscribing.
Agreed!ps139 said:It comes with the territory of actually listening to Church teaching. Don't worry about it. Id rather be following Rome than clamoring for tolerance while at the same time not tolerating opposing viewpoints.
Again, why do you assume that because I say X is bad, that I then think Y must be good? Or that I ignore Y. You completely missed the point of my post. My point was that in foster homes and in homosexual homes, children face different types of dangers, and how can we determine which are worse? Also, that one being bad does not de facto make the other good. Your response to me implies that you think I would knowingly place a child in a physically abusive home instead of a homosexual home (as in, I only care about one type of sin). I said nothing of the sort. I do not know what I would do, I'd likely look for a 3rd option, but I certainly wouldn't go around pretending that being raised with 2 daddies is beneficial for a child's soul and psychological development.fragmentsofdreams said:Why is homosexuality the only serious sin people care about when considering where to place children?
ShannonMcCatholic said:*Shannon steps away silently....walking at first....and then running.....
debiwebi said:You a witch ..... never Michelle you are lovable as always .... (besides that is my title remember)
ps139 said:I do not know what I would do, I'd likely look for a 3rd option, but I certainly wouldn't go around pretending that being raised with 2 daddies is beneficial for a child's soul and psychological development.
Protinus said:How do you know that it is not?
Protinus said:How do you know that it is not?
As experience has shown, the absence of sexual complementarity in [homosexual] unions creates obstacles in the normal development of children who would be placed in the care of such persons. They would be deprived of the experience of either fatherhood or motherhood. Allowing children to be adopted by persons living in such unions would actually mean doing violence to these children, in the sense that their condition of dependency would be used to place them in an environment that is not conducive to their full human development. This is gravely immoral and in open contradiction to the principle, recognized also in the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child, that the best interests of the child, as the weaker and more vulnerable party, are to be the paramount consideration in every case.
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