Maybe then posters should demonstrate publically what they want seen publically if they do not want it called into question .... I have every right to question this of any poster posting under the Catholic icon ....kimber1 said:but one perhaps better done in private?
debiwebi said:I want to ask you a question in all seriousness fragment and it is not I repeat not to question whether you are Christian or not, but if you disagree with the Church so much, and not just on this on many other issues that are Doctrinal and Dogmatic which require our assent then why are you Catholic?
debiwebi said:I have every right to question this of any poster posting under the Catholic icon ....
Didn't know I had to be one in order to question whether someone was allied with Rome or not so that I may establish their position properly? That should not be a public secret and I do not need ROBES to askCaDan said:
debiwebi said:I do believe it says at the top of this thread Catholics only please .... Now tell me are you Catholic Annabel Lee?
I guess then these icons do have significance do they not?
what club? You mean God's Church that is what you are calling a club?
I guess if somehow you now want to call the Church a secret Socety of some sort by all means go ahead ....
As far as fragment being a he and not a she then I am sorry for the discrepency on that hardly something to scold someone about ....
I do believe I sign all my posts DEBI and yet you have addressed me in the past when using my name only as Debbie which is not the way I spell it and never has been ..... I do not believe I have ever scolded you for it though, I have been mistaken believe it or not for a guy but hey ok no big deal ..... Anything else
And when it comes to what I do and what I don't, I guess I am the judge as to what I can and cannot do, so please do not tell me I do not have the right to do anything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Unlike you, My icon I wear means that I am Catholic ..... therefore it does not mean that I belong to a club because I was here posting long before I even knew OBOB existed and on top of that I hardly post in OBOB at all, there goes your secret club theory .... I bear my Icon because I am who I am ... I am not a sunday Catholic .... I am Catholic and it is part of my identity so therefore I bear it proudly ....No they do not.
debiwebi said:Unlike you, My icon I wear means that I am Catholic ..... therefore it does not mean that I belong to a club because I was here posting long before I even knew OBOB existed and on top of that I hardly post in OBOB at all, there goes your secret club theory .... I bear my Icon because I am who I am ... I am not a sunday Catholic .... I am Catholic and it is part of my identity so therefore I bear it proudly ....
For your information not all of us think the same way that you do
debiwebi said:I am not questioning her Christianity I am not even questioning whether she is catholic .... I am questioning whether she is in line with the Holy See or not .... that is a different question altogether, one that has been brought one by her own postings in this thread ....
Again considering that this thread was moved from OBOB where she started posting to it, and where she posts on a continual basis, many times opposed to doctrinal teachings, and considering that one of the rules of OBOB is that the Catholics that post and DEBATE there be in line with the Holy See then it is a perfectly normal question for me to ask. Considering this thread is ONLY for Catholics, it is still a perfectly normal question for me to ask....
Sometimes I really HATE communicating at all via this medium. It has it's benefits, but the depersonalization factor is what I don't like. That and it's so easy to misunderstand people and be misunderstood. I know for a fact that convos such as this would be different if we were all face to face rather than sitting behind our computers.fragmentsofdreams said:A public message board is not an appropiate medium for complex and controversial topics.
Miss Shelby said:Sometimes I really HATE communicating at all via this medium. It has it's benefits, but the depersonalization factor is what I don't like. That and it's so easy to misunderstand people and be misunderstood. I know for a fact that convos such as this would be different if we were all face to face rather than sitting behind our computers.
As for the icon thing. I have a Catholic icon, and I stand in agreement with Church teaching. But I fall so short every day of being what I desire to be, which is a good practicing Catholic. If anyone is going to have their Catholicity questioned in this thread, for one it should be me. I sure ain't worthy of having it. So I would just let the icon comments slide like water off a duck's back, were I you.
Michelle
You ask valid questions .....Let's say for the sake of argument that Fragments is wrong. Does that somehow make this exploration of the issue invalid? Does that mean that he should be stifled in this place? Does that mean that he loses his Official Catholic Status?
Very true because never once have I questioned whether FragmentofDreams was Catholic or Christian, that some people keeps alluding when they post to me even though I have made that clear in almost every post that I posted. I simply wanted to know if Fragment was allied with Rome or not? This way I would have a better handle on how to approach a situation. We take it naturally that someone that bears the icon is allied with Rome but there are some that are not and it is the only icon that they can wear. They are Catholic just not in line with the Holy See, or do not recognize his authority.Sometimes I really HATE communicating at all via this medium. It has it's benefits, but the depersonalization factor is what I don't like. That and it's so easy to misunderstand people and be misunderstood. I know for a fact that convos such as this would be different if we were all face to face rather than sitting behind our computers.
Michelle you are a good Catholic from what I have seen with a good heart to go along with it, and we all fall short of the Glory of God.... none of us are perfect..... I personally think you are a great person and are someone that I have looked to many times, especially when I was new to the Faith, for inspiration so .... you can't be that badAs for the icon thing. I have a Catholic icon, and I stand in agreement with Church teaching. But I fall so short every day of being what I desire to be, which is a good practicing Catholic. If anyone is going to have their Catholicity questioned in this thread, for one it should be me. I sure ain't worthy of having it. So I would just let the icon comments slide like water off a duck's back, were I you.
Michelle