Don Fortner

[JM]

By the grace of God..."I am what I am." Popeye

 

[stenerson]

I've heard lots of Fortner the last couple weeks. But another free grace radio Pastor has become my favorite. Chris Pennington (retired preacher). Unfortunately not many of his sermons available , and the audio quality a bit lousy.

 

[twin1954]

I've heard lots of Fortner the last couple weeks. But another free grace radio Pastor has become my favorite. Chris Pennington (retired preacher). Unfortunately not many of his sermons available , and the audio quality a bit lousy.

Do you mean Charles Pennington from Wheelersburg Ohio? Yeah he is very good as are all of God's men. He had some medical problems and had to give up pastoring.

 

[stenerson]

Do you mean Charles Pennington from Wheelersburg Ohio? Yeah he is very good as are all of God's men. He had some medical problems and had to give up pastoring.

Yep, that's him. Heard this sermon today. It's a keeper.

The righteousness of faith.

 

[twin1954]

Yep, that's him. Heard this sermon today. It's a keeper.

The righteousness of faith.

Have you listened to Clay Curtis from Princeton NJ yet? If not I think you would enjoy him very much.

 

[stenerson]

Not yet. Thanks, will give it a listen.

 

[JM]

What did you think?

 

[Rick Otto]

By the grace of God..."I am what I am." Popeye

I am what I am, and that's all that I am, I'm Yahweh the God of man.

 

[stenerson]

What did you think?

About Clay Curtis? Fine preacher.. I've listened to tons of Sovereign Grace preachers the last couple years. I like Don Fortner but my favorite is probably Henry Mahan. (I'm not sure if he's still alive).
I also like the preaching of the late Pastor John Reisinger. He's seems to have a limited number of recorded sermons unfortunately. One of my favorites is
The Faulty Presuppositions of Dispensationalism & Covenant Theology (Including Infant Baptism)

 

[twin1954]

About Clay Curtis? Fine preacher.. I've listened to tons of Sovereign Grace preachers the last couple years. I like Don Fortner but my favorite is probably Henry Mahan. (I'm not sure if he's still alive).
I also like the preaching of the late Pastor John Reisinger. He's seems to have a limited number of recorded sermons unfortunately. One of my favorites is
The Faulty Presuppositions of Dispensationalism & Covenant Theology (Including Infant Baptism)

John Reisinger was one of the main developers and proponents of New Covenant Theology (NCT) which seeks to redefine Paul and compromise with Dispenasationalism. Reisinger himself was not nearly as far off as those who promote NCT now though. They have beguiled many.

 

[JM]

NCT has found many converts among Baptists who realize Dispensationalism doesn't work but are too pig headed to embrace (Baptist) Covenant Theology.

 

[stenerson]

Hmmm? I haven't heard or read about NCT.. Not sure what they believe.

 

[twin1954]

Hmmm? I haven't heard or read about NCT.. Not sure what they believe.

This should help a little. I know the writer and he is solid on most things.

http://evangelica.de/articles/covenant-theology-as-seen-by-the-nct-part-one/

 

[TaylorSexton]

I have a back-and-forth relationship with Mr. Fortner. On the one hand, his sermons are thoroughly biblical and faithful. I have found, for example, his sermons on the types of Christ in the OT to be tearfully beautiful and edifying. On the other hand, his rhetoric is hard to swallow at times. In fact, I believe that, in his unbridled zeal for the truth, he oftentimes borders on dishonoring the Lord with his against others, especially fellow believers. If that weren't enough, he is inconsistent in his dogmatism. For example, he has said that he believes infant baptism is great heresy (and he uses some rather strong language against it and those who practice it, practically throwing them in with the papists and those who teach baptismal regeneration), yet in the same breath lauds the likes of Owen, Edwards, Calvin, Toplady, and especially Newton, all of whom were ardent paedobaptists.

He is helpful a lot of the time, but his growing tendency to be vitriolic and unreasonable have caused me to listen to him sparingly.

 

[twin1954]

I have a back-and-forth relationship with Mr. Fortner. On the one hand, his sermons are thoroughly biblical and faithful. I have found, for example, his sermons on the types of Christ in the OT to be tearfully beautiful and edifying. On the other hand, his rhetoric is hard to swallow at times. In fact, I believe that, in his unbridled zeal for the truth, he oftentimes borders on dishonoring the Lord with his against others, especially fellow believers. If that weren't enough, he is inconsistent in his dogmatism. For example, he has said that he believes infant baptism is great heresy (and he uses some rather strong language against it and those who practice it, practically throwing them in with the papists and those who teach baptismal regeneration), yet in the same breath lauds the likes of Owen, Edwards, Calvin, Toplady, and especially Newton, all of whom were ardent paedobaptists.

He is helpful a lot of the time, but his growing tendency to be vitriolic and unreasonable have caused me to listen to him sparingly.

I attended Grace Baptist of Danville, Ky. for more than twenty years and learned what it was to preach the Gospel from sitting in the pew listening to Don Fortner. It is true that he can be vitriolic and even downright condemning at times but I have never known a man more committed to the preaching of the Gospel of the sovereign grace of God in Christ Jesus alone. He taught me to seek to comfort God's people with the truth of Christ when preaching. He taught me to challenge those who are in error with the truth of Christ.

His mission isn't to condemn others but to preach Christ and the things of Christ clearly and without apology. Yet his zeal for the truth of Christ and his strong personality often is perceived as being offensive. I will always love him and continually pray that the Lord will get him out of the way just as I pray that He will do the same for me.

One more thing: he doesn't necessarily preach against others but the error that others hold to. Having known him and been close friends for so many years I can honestly tell you that I don't know a more compassionate man.

 

[TaylorSexton]

One more thing: he doesn't necessarily preach against others but the error that others hold to. Having known him and been close friends for so many years I can honestly tell you that I don't know a more compassionate man.

I am happy to hear that. As I said, I have been helped immensely by him. Also, by no means am I trying to insinuate that if I find something I don't like abut a preacher, they are unworthy of my listening. I just found that some of Fortner's rhetoric can be a little overbearing, which is saying a lot for me, as I typically find that, in regards to the doctrines of grace, the more offense, the better. I just found Mr. Fortner to be unreasonable at times. But, so am I.

It's good to hear from someone who knows him well. At the moment I listen to Henry Mahan, a late good friend of Mr. Fortner, as much as I can.

 

[twin1954]

I am happy to hear that. As I said, I have been helped immensely by him. Also, by no means am I trying to insinuate that if I find something I don't like abut a preacher, they are unworthy of my listening. I just found that some of Fortner's rhetoric can be a little overbearing, which is saying a lot for me, as I typically find that, in regards to the doctrines of grace, the more offense, the better. I just found Mr. Fortner to be unreasonable at times. But, so am I.

It's good to hear from someone who knows him well. At the moment I listen to Henry Mahan, a late good friend of Mr. Fortner, as much as I can.

As far as I know Henry is still alive. He now lives in Rockymount, Va. near his son who pastors a church there. I know Henry as well and have spent several hours in his home while he was still in Ashland, Ky.

 

[TaylorSexton]

As far as I know Henry is still alive. He now lives in Rockymount, Va. near his son who pastors a church there. I know Henry as well and have spent several hours in his home while he was still in Ashland, Ky.

He's still alive?! He's got to be in his mid-90's. What a great preacher he is.

And, please understand, I mean no offense at my comments regarding Mr. Fortner. It comes from disappointment. His zeal for truth is stunning, and his preaching ability even more so. He is an asset to the Kingdom, for sure. It just makes it that much harder for me when I hear questionable things coming from his pulpit. Regardless, I praise God for him and have been blessed immensely by him.

 

[twin1954]

He's still alive?! He's got to be in his mid-90's. What a great preacher he is.

And, please understand, I mean no offense at my comments regarding Mr. Fortner. It comes from disappointment. His zeal for truth is stunning, and his preaching ability even more so. He is an asset to the Kingdom, for sure. It just makes it that much harder for me when I hear questionable things coming from his pulpit. Regardless, I praise God for him and have been blessed immensely by him.

No problem. I am as familiar with his faults probably more than anyone. Have you had the pleasure of reading Don's book "Basic Bible Doctrine"? You can find it here along with many great men:

http://grace-ebooks.com/library/

 

[TaylorSexton]

Have you had the pleasure of reading Don's book "Basic Bible Doctrine"?

I have it downloaded, but have not read it yet. I am also familiar with Grace eBooks. What a great website! I have benefited greatly from this site. Isn't it operated by Grace Baptist Church?