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Doing relationships the right way this time.

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Like so many others before knowing God, I did relationships disastrously the way the world does it. Now I want to do it the right way. I know scripture's command that we are not to be unequally yoked with unbelievers.

Does this mean that no person deserves a chance (like a date) if they are not a believer? Should a Christian disclose their identity as one right off the bat to that person?
 
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Like so many others before knowing God, I did relationships disastrously the way the world does it. Now I want to do it the right way. I know scripture's command that we are not to be unequally yoked with unbelievers.

Does this mean that no person deserves a chance (like a date) if they are not a believer? Should a Christian disclose their identity as one right off the bat to that person?

Would or could dating a non-believer, be likened to putting the Lord God to the test? Personally I think it is flirting with disaster. I couldn't tell ya how many times I've heard "well we didn't mean...we didn't intend..." yeah well we dismiss ourselves from spiritual warfare and downplay human nature. The way I disclosed my identity to my wife, just started talking about what we were looking for in a "mate", partner, etc. She believed in God, but had not been exposed to Calvinism or Reformed theology, she came from a Pentecostal background (which didn't bother me, I came from that background myself), but she was not a real hard core die hard Pentecostal, nor had she been raised in Church from an early age, such that she would have a general bit of background knowledge. I came to find out she had been involved with "Oneness Pentecostals" where we live (friends with a pastor daughters), but she did not know much difference between them and the ones she went to Church with where she came from. She was quite innocent to teachings, what I mean is, she really did not know or understand. So, I think it is fine to discuss early on in dating, and it will not be an issue with the "right one(s)", it will be mutual, as in, important to both of you. If it's really not important to a potential mate, you have to ask yourself if you would desire to spend the rest of your life with a person that could care less about what is most important in life. If you couldn't see yourself spending the rest of your life with them, then move on, don't lead them on into thinking there is potential where there is none, spare yourself and them heartache, time, and money.
 
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Would or could dating a non-believer, be likened to putting the Lord God to the test? Personally I think it is flirting with disaster. I couldn't tell ya how many times I've heard "well we didn't mean...we didn't intend..." yeah well we dismiss ourselves from spiritual warfare and downplay human nature.

Wow. Never before had I heard anyone put it in those words. I know what you mean by flirting with disaster. After all that I have been through, I should know way better by now. Yet I'm still a miserable Sinner.

I was just thinking that maybe it is unfair to people that I just shun them right off the bat, after all, who am I, being a puny human sinner, be one to question who is God's Elect, or potential Elect, and the process by which He saves someone. Okay, I'll admit it, that's not what I was thinking. I guess it was just wishful thinking on my part because I met a very lovely member of the opposite sex and she has no real idea of my true identity. And I guess I was hoping that somehow all people could automatically see that my true identity is in Christ and shun me right off the bat, or not, based on that knowledge.
 
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I envy the people for whom God's Grace spared them from making disastrous mistakes in the pursuit of a relationship, where they meet someone who is a believer in Christ just like their self and for which the relationship was an easy transition to marriage.

I always play these games in my head of "If only I had done ___" I could have avoided all this mess. But the secret things belong to the Lord and in His Wisdom decided to open my eyes to the truth when I got older.
 
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Wow. Never before had I heard anyone put it in those words. I know what you mean by flirting with disaster. After all that I have been through, I should know way better by now. Yet I'm still a miserable Sinner.

I knew better, but as it turned out, failed to do better. Sad part about it is, I held out for a long long time...well for what seemed like an eternity in human years...only to willfully and intentionally sin...I was full of anger, jealousy, envy, however, God had mercy, He took a bad situation, and turned it into good.

I was just thinking that maybe it is unfair to people that I just shun them right off the bat, after all, who am I, being a puny human sinner, be one to question who is God's Elect, or potential Elect, and the process by which He saves someone. Okay, I'll admit it, that's not what I was thinking. I guess it was just wishful thinking on my part because I met a very lovely member of the opposite sex and she has no real idea of my true identity. And I guess I was hoping that somehow all people could automatically see that my true identity is in Christ and shun me right off the bat, or not, based on that knowledge.

I would learn more about them, before deciding whether or not shunning would be best. However, more importantly we should turn to the Apostle Paul's letter to the Corinthians:

2 Cor 6:14 "Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness? 15 And what accord has Christ with Belial? Or what part has a believer with an unbeliever? 16 And what agreement has the temple of God with idols?"

The word "yoked" means joined or coupled. Most people do not take the above Scripture seriously. Most think they are in some way "evangelizing" to their non-believing friends, when the truth is more likely that they are more influenced by their non-believing friends, than their non-believing friends are influenced by them! Of course the Apostle Paul is not introducing a new concept, if we were to go through the Old Testament, time and again we see the Lord working to keep His people separate from other nations, and we see what happens when Israel would mingle with other non-believing nations, and the misery it brought them.

Sure you could marry a non-believer, but mostly likely it would bring you pain and misery, and could end up not the way you wanted going into things, it happens all the time. True it's no guarantee things will always work even for two believers, but based on my experiences, I can tell you the people I know who have been married for the longest time, and have lasting joy, peace, and contentment in their marriage, are where both are believers. One of the reasons I think this is, because as believers we know that our soul mate cannot give contentment like the Lord, is no replacement for how the Lord gives peace and helps us with our weaknesses.
 
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That's definitely original. lol. The whole "met at church" thing is so cliche now.

I really really wanted to meet the "right one" for me when I attended a local Presbyterian based college about 15 years ago, but it didn't happen, not even close. I remember a pretty red hair Baptist girl shunning me after a conversation where she asked if I believed in the "once saved always saved" doctrine, and at the time, I didn't...and she never spoke to me again. I almost had something going with a Charismatic girl from Haiti, but she told me she wouldn't date a white guy...is it any wonder I dropped out of that college? ^_^
 
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I really really wanted to meet the "right one" for me when I attended a local Presbyterian based college about 15 years ago, but it didn't happen, not even close. I remember a pretty red hair Baptist girl shunning me after a conversation where she asked if I believed in the "once saved always saved" doctrine, and at the time, I didn't...and she never spoke to me again. I almost had something going with a Charismatic girl from Haiti, but she told me she wouldn't date a white guy...is it any wonder I dropped out of that college? ^_^


Lol. Those lovely women at the Bible Colleges and in churches get snatched up quick! The ratio of men pursuing these women must be like 25:1.
 
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Lol. Those lovely women at the Bible Colleges and in churches get snatched up quick! The ratio of men pursuing these women must be like 25:1.

At the time, I had my eye on at least three other young ladies, of course all of them had boyfriends. I was the kind of guy, to practice the "golden rule" by not trying to date girls with boyfriends. If they had been my gf, I wouldn't want other guys trying to get dates with them. Old fashioned thinking I know by today's promiscuous standards, and I probably suffered for it, but God provided.
 
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