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Doesn’t This Just say it All.....

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Interesting phrasing. Trump supporters shouldn't be reasoned with or simply out voted, they need to actually not exist anymore. Not an uncommon sentiment among people like you, just interesting to see it said so plainly.

Tell me, how does voting make those Trump people nonexistent, and if voting doesn't make Trump's base nonexistent, what's the next step?

When you hear an NFL player saying they want to kick the other team's butt, do you picture the player literally standing behind the other team's players and kicking them in the butt?
 
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@Speedwell > I think each person can speak for oneself, about why they vote the way they do, in a poll, and each one might know if he or she is capable of putting the opposition in ovens.

Even so, ones were able to hate and call for the crucifixion of Jesus > they were mother and fathers, accepted citizens of Israel, who became able to do that. So, though ones might speak for themselves about what they can or can not do > they might not realize what they are capable of.

We all are human, too.

This is part of why we need to be submissive to God, all the time, so we don't find out ever moreso what we really are capable of. And God's word says His secular leaders are His ministers for our good. God is able to use whomever He pleases, for His plan.

Romans 13
 
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Taking money for your silence is extortion.
Change the first word to “demanding” and you’re right.
Nobody demanded anything from Trump. (That we currently know.j
 
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I would likely take that same position on general principle. It creates a dichotomy. Is abandoning Trump an admission that everything that has gone on over the last two years has been right?

I see this entire thing as a grotesque abuse of authority on the part ohof the government and I might be tempted as a protest against that abuse to support Trump.

And disregard the proof...??

Oh, I forgot...this is the age of ‘alternative facts’...
 
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It's been a long time in the making and it's mostly due to international trade deals the way I see it. It would be dishonest to believe that things like NAFTA did not have their detractors on both sides of a border. Same thing with other trade relationships. These things build up over time to a boiling point. What happens? Donald Trump is elected President of the United States.

As long as the voter base believes that these deals with foreign countries are lob sided towards other countries. A fact that Trump could actually take money from any foreigner while at the same time taking an adversarial approach to trade with them and get the bigger end of the stick too. Short of actually shooting someone in Times Square, Mueller's conclusions can do more to re-elect him rather than vote him out of office.

This too can become a nothing burger.

The poll didn’t focus on Trump “taking money”. It asked about the reaction to him being proved to be guilty of conspiracy or obstruction of justice. Large numbers of his supporters would apparently look the other way...
 
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Things like that happen every day. Someone commits a crime and during their arrest the police abuse the suspect. Crowds of people protest the police and demand that the suspect be released.
What's the difference?

Because the poll didn’t ask about “arrest”.....it asked about him being proven guilty...!

But please, continue to dodge...
 
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Interesting phrasing. Trump supporters shouldn't be reasoned with or simply out voted, they need to actually not exist anymore. Not an uncommon sentiment among people like you, just interesting to see it said so plainly.

Tell me, how does voting make those Trump people nonexistent, and if voting doesn't make Trump's base nonexistent, what's the next step?

Oh, conspiracies abound..!

Obviously, since I mentioned “voting”, I was referring to Trump supporters being “out of existence” AS A POLITICAL FORCE...!
 
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Adolph Hitler put people into concentration camps and ovens.

Jesus said let the one without sin cast the first stone.

So . . . we can step in the peace of God's all-loving love.

Or we can step in conceit, by not looking at how we ourselves need to get real, while we keep busy with looking down on others.

Oh good grief...!

‘Playing the victim’ on steroids....:doh:
 
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Please list all of the crimes Trump is being investigated for...

I often wonder if this is some sort of game Trump supporters pose or if they actually are unaware of all the things for which Trump, associates and family are being investigated.

Trump Inaugural Committee Ordered to Hand Over Documents to Federal Investigators
From Daily Beast article referencing the above link.
According to reports in The Wall Street Journal and The New York Times, a grand jury in the Southern District of New York recently issued a subpoena to the Trump inaugural committee, seeking documents relating to donors and spending. According to reports, the subpoena indicates that prosecutors are investigating conspiracy against the United States, false statements, mail fraud, wire fraud, money laundering and violations of campaign finance and inaugural committee laws.​
 
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Why has Stormy Daniels not been arrested for extortion? Trump is being investigated for paying hush money, which isn't a crime, but the recipient of the hush money, who has committed a federal crime, walks.

This whole thing is laughable.
Maybe , because it was Trump idea to pay hush money. Not Stormy. And nothing about this is laughable.
 
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The poll didn’t focus on Trump “taking money”. It asked about the reaction to him being proved to be guilty of conspiracy or obstruction of justice. Large numbers of his supporters would apparently look the other way...
"Taking money" is only an example of all the other wider array of accusations.

Trump could almost shoot somebody in broad daylight in Times Square and people would still vote for him because they see that person laying dead in a puddle of blood as someone like Hitler.
 
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"Taking money" is only an example of all the other wider array of accusations.

Trump could almost shoot somebody in broad daylight in Times Square and people would still vote for him because they see that person laying dead in a puddle of blood as someone like Hitler.

I understand....in fact, we’ve seen it before.

Long after Nixon was indeed found to be a “crook”, long after he resigned in shame over his crimes, something like 20% of Americans still supported him...

I don’t know if they were just blindly loyal, or if they disbelieved the charges of which he was guilty, or if they just weren’t ‘well’....but I can see a similar kernel of hard-core Trump followers continuing to support him, regardless of how many crimes can be proven against him...

It’s sad....it’s bigly sad.
 
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