Does this sadden you?

[cabbitgrrrl]

Christ is being taken out of christmas?

Not really, christ wasnt a part of it in ancient times anyway. Besides they arent saying you cant practice it with christ, just trying to open things up to be fair for everyone else.

Merry Yule everyone, may Cybele bless all

 

[The-Doctor]

What annoys me is when the PC brigade decide that they wont have Christmas carols or christmas cards or anything to do with "Christmas" incase we upset other faiths...grrrrrr

So is it wrong to be a christian now?...I Accept that we must always be sensitive to others needs I think people go to far sometimes!!!

 

[Rat_bytes]

Ha Ha... Politically Correct people are always so funny. It's not like we say "hey, you can't wear that skullcap in here!" to a Jewish person, or get sniffy when we see chinese new year banners.
How could the expression of our end of year festival possibly upset anyone else? And if a few people are upset about it, then they probably deserve to be for being so intolerant.

The real problem with christmas these days is the rampant commercialism. It's not Merry Christmas, it's MerryChristmasNowCheckOutTheseGreatBargains,They'reReallyReallyCheap,
SALESALESALESALEENDOFYEARCLEARANCEDONTMISSOUT, YOU NEED THIS PRODUCT, BUYBUYBUYBUYBUY!!!!!!!

 

[meebs]

Christ is being taken out of christmas?

yeah - but christ was put into christmas - before then wasnt it a pagan festival? of another name? and wasnt Jesus born on another day?.....has somebody said this before me?

 

[Archivist]

We actually have know idea when Jesus was born, although it was probably in the Spring since Scripture tells us that the shepards were in the fields keeping watch over there sheep. They sometimes get snow in Isreal during the winter--you don't put sheep outdoors in that kind of weather. In addition it is doubtful, again because of the cold weather, that the Roman Empire would have people go to be enrolled during the wintertime.

I seem to remember reading--although I forget the source--that Christ's birth was first celebrated by the Church in Egypt and that the celebration occurred in April or May.

 

[aimejl]

That is just sad.

Merry CHRISTmas
Happy Holydays !

 

[cabbitgrrrl]

What annoys me is when the PC brigade decide that they wont have Christmas carols or christmas cards or anything to do with "Christmas" incase we upset other faiths...grrrrrr

So is it wrong to be a christian now?...I Accept that we must always be sensitive to others needs I think people go to far sometimes!!!

no it just means you guys wont have the copyright on a holiday that wasnt originally yours to begin with anymore

 

[warispeace]

Everybody is talking about how hostile the holidays are to Christians. I guess I just don't see it.

And everyone -- Happy Holidays is NOT a euphamism for Merry Christmas... Happy Holidays includes New Year's, too.

Personally, as far as people going 'Merry Christmas!' or 'God Bless you!' or whatever, it doesn't really bother me. I consider it idiomatic. I know what it is someone means. When someone asks me, 'What are you doing on Wednesday?' I don't wig out and go, 'Woden? I don't believe in Woden! Don't ask me that, you crazy witch-doctor!!'

 

[The Seeker]

What annoys me is when the PC brigade decide that they wont have Christmas carols or christmas cards or anything to do with "Christmas" incase we upset other faiths...grrrrrr

You mean like the lights strung across Liverpool city centre depicting the nativity, two cathedrals and the words "Liverpool - City of Faith"? Read The Sun much?

 

[Evee]

Well I believe the government is interfering with our freedom of speech.
They censor and no longer able to sing carols in some places etc.
I say do something a little more constructive if they must censor..... censor porn.
Sorry off topic.

 

[Evee]

no it just means you guys wont have the copyright on a holiday that wasnt originally yours to begin with anymore

Most all holidays have a lot of paganism in them.

 

[Rat_bytes]

That's very true. Wasn't Christmas once called "winter solstice" or something?

 

[Genes!s]

If Christ is taken out of Christmas, I think it should be just another day; no celebration at all. I'm tired of a few people trying to control the minority and change what has been the same for Lord knows how long, because they don't want to look at it or say it. Simple answer for yas: If ya don't like it, don't look at it!

 

[Rat_bytes]

How very, very true.

 

[The Seeker]

If Christ is taken out of Christmas, I think it should be just another day; no celebration at all. I'm tired of a few people trying to control the minority and change what has been the same for Lord knows how long, because they don't want to look at it or say it. Simple answer for yas: If ya don't like it, don't look at it!

Nobody's proposing to stop Christians celebrating Christmas in their own way. But the fact is that for a lot of people, Christmas is not a religious thing anymore, it's a time for family (and over-indulgence ).

 

[Mish]

This PC **** about cencoring

I know this is cruel, but you are a hypocrite.

 

[Evee]

I know this is cruel, but you are a hypocrite.

Were you talking to me?
I don't consider myself a hipocrite.
If you were talking to me I was just speaking what I believe.
If that makes me a hipocrite then I am a hipocrite.

 

[Genes!s]

Nobody's proposing to stop Christians celebrating Christmas in their own way. But the fact is that for a lot of people, Christmas is not a religious thing anymore, it's a time for family (and over-indulgence ).

First, I'll say that I made a mistake. I meant MAJORITY, not minority. Second, I still stand by my opinion: If you don't like it, don't look at it!

 

[Electric Sceptic]

If Christ is taken out of Christmas, I think it should be just another day; no celebration at all. I'm tired of a few people trying to control the minority and change what has been the same for Lord knows how long, because they don't want to look at it or say it. Simple answer for yas: If ya don't like it, don't look at it!

"If ya don't like it, don't look at it!" - good advice. But I wonder if you'd take the same position regarding (for example) public nudity? I have a feeling not. In my experience, people tend to take the position you advocate only when the thing under discussion is something they agree with.

But perhaps I'm wrong. So how about it? Public nudity - if ya don't like it, don't look at it?

 

[morningstar2651]

Public nudity - if ya don't like it, don't look at it?

Sounds like a good idea to me!

But, of course, the minority's beliefs don't matter.