Does this insult you ?

[Sean1969]

Like it did me. Im a member in another forum,, a car forum. One member had an avatar of a penguin beside his name . BUT , on the penguins head, he had cropped in goats horns. And on the penguins chest , he placed an upside down Cross. He was told it was offensive to Christians . He understood, and removed the image. But then along comes two other members, one who says hes a devout Catholic who feels God cured him of his cancer , is a firm believer , and began a tirade DEFENDING the inverted cross and goat horns, and went as far as to add them to HIS OWN avatar. The second guy is pretty much the same , added them to his avatar as well. Here are the definitions of what the images symbolize :

Upside Down Cross - Symbolizes mockery and rejection of Jesus.
Goat Head - The horned goat, goat of mendes, Baphomet, god of the witches, the scapegoat. It's a Satanists way of mocking Jesus as the "Lamb" who died for our sins.

So if these guys are Christians, HOW IN THE HELL CAN THEY DEFEND THESE SYMBOLS??? I can post a link if anyone likes,, there are 2 threads, both eventually locked by the mods after they got heated.

 

[MattMMMan17]

The upside down cross is not a rejection of Jesus. The upside down Crucifix IS. The upside down cross is a remembrance of St. Peter who was crucified upside down. The upside down crucifix is what has recently turned into the symbol for satanism. Peter's crucifixion could be to what those people were referring to.(wishful thinking)

As for the goat horns, well I don't know about that symbolically.

 

[boughtwithaprice]

The upside down cross is easy to defend, as the Pope sits in the "Chair of Peter", and Peter was crucified upside down It is a symbol of humility, as Peter felt unworthy to be crucified in the same manner as our Lord Jesus Christ.

The goat horns, I'm not sure about

 

[Biarien]

Why did he defend the image?

Defending it as free speech isn't so bad. I know I would like the freedom to share my world views, so I don't think denying others that freedom because they have a different view is right.

 

[Debi1967]

Well You haven't exactly told us what their position was on it. Did they defend it saying it was his right as a freedom of speech thing?
I mean I do agree that it is rather offensive to say the least if not downright appalling but it would help to know what their position was on the matter. If they were defending the images then no, I do not agree. If they were defending someones freedoms then they have a point although I believe by taking on the avatar themselves they went a little too far. Ok so a lot too far.
In Christ
Debi

 

[Markh]

where does the penguin fit into all this?

 

[Christy4Christ]

where does the penguin fit into all this?

LOL this is a VERY good question! I am sorry for laughing

 

[Tangnefedd]

I don't usually look at the avatars of others, I think folk offend too easily. I could be very offended by some of the things some Christians have said to me since I joined CF, because they do not like my liberal Christian philosophy, but life is too short to bother much about the badmouthing of others unless I think they are valid. For heavens sake these forums are a bit of fun for when we have nothing better to do, surely?

 

[Skripper]

I don't usually look at the avatars of others, I think folk offend too easily. I could be very offended by some of the things some Christians have said to me since I joined CF, because they do not like my liberal Christian philosophy, but life is too short to bother much about the badmouthing of others unless I think they are valid. For heavens sake these forums are a bit of fun for when we have nothing better to do, surely?

I would say that these forums (CF and others like it) are primarily for those seriously seeking Christian Truth and not merely a place to go to kill some time and get one's kicks when there is nothing better to do. But I do understand your point, I think. Sometimes we are too thin-skinned.

 

[Tangnefedd]

I didn't think anyone took forums seriously, one could be seriously screwed up if one did!!!

 

[Skripper]

I didn't think anyone took forums seriously!!!!!

Sure they do. I've personally witnessed many, many conversions to Christ through forums like this ... some here on CF specifically. Maybe you haven't visited the "serious" areas of these forums, where serious issues are seriously discussed?

 

[Christy4Christ]

I didn't think anyone took forums seriously, one could be seriously screwed up if one did!!!

Are you kidding me? I have spent like 6 weeks glued to this board and I have learned SO much in that time! I certainly would never take time away from my life like that for something I didn't take seriously.

 

[Skripper]

I didn't think anyone took forums seriously, one could be seriously screwed up if one did!!!

Then I guess I'll take the risk of getting "seriously screwed up", as I tend to take seriously discussing Christian Truth and speading the gospel through these forums.

 

[Christy4Christ]

Then I guess I'll take the risk of getting "seriously screwed up", as I tend to take seriously discussing Christian Truth and speading the gospel through these forums.

Yes I agree with this

 

[Bushido216]

Like it did me. Im a member in another forum,, a car forum. One member had an avatar of a penguin beside his name . BUT , on the penguins head, he had cropped in goats horns. And on the penguins chest , he placed an upside down Cross. He was told it was offensive to Christians . He understood, and removed the image. But then along comes two other members, one who says hes a devout Catholic who feels God cured him of his cancer , is a firm believer , and began a tirade DEFENDING the inverted cross and goat horns, and went as far as to add them to HIS OWN avatar. The second guy is pretty much the same , added them to his avatar as well. Here are the definitions of what the images symbolize :

Upside Down Cross - Symbolizes mockery and rejection of Jesus.
Goat Head - The horned goat, goat of mendes, Baphomet, god of the witches, the scapegoat. It's a Satanists way of mocking Jesus as the "Lamb" who died for our sins.

So if these guys are Christians, HOW IN THE HELL CAN THEY DEFEND THESE SYMBOLS??? I can post a link if anyone likes,, there are 2 threads, both eventually locked by the mods after they got heated.

It doesn't bother me that much. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. For instance, if you have a cross-avatar at another forum, that's bound to insult someone, would you be willing to take your cross off?

It's nice that the original poster took off his avatar, but it wasn't necessary.

 

[MichaelFJF]

Well, since someone asked, I'll answer about the penguin reference. In a context like this board, it's usually a sarcastic depiction or reference to nuns. As for taking this board seriously....it's like any other part of life or the world - some of it is worth taking seriously, some isn't. The religious sections are pretty serious. The political and news sections are fun to "fight" and agrue in, but honestly, most of the people are a little um, "off" who really participate a lot in those sections. My .02. M

 

[RhetorTheo]

The goat horns may represent Moses' horns.

http://www.moseshand.com/studies/moses.htm

 

[thereselittleflower]

The goat horns may represent Moses' horns.

http://www.moseshand.com/studies/moses.htm

I knew that the inverted cross was easily defended, but I couldn't fathom how the horns could be defended since the represent satan in popular thought . . I will have to read the link . . . .


Peace in Him!

 

[Debi1967]

Do you know what I think guys since the OP to this thread was in here for the longest time yesterday that he was part of one of those that he spoke of in the OP and that he brought it here because they kept closing it down in the other site so he wanted to see what would happen here.....
Just a feelin I have.....
because he was asked for further clarfication several times and offered none. Instead he just kept hoping the thread would continue into debate, because it was oblique....
In Christ
Debi