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Does Satan exist?

corvus_corax

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peepnklown said:
I’m still waiting for people to support their views of Satan from the Tanakh.
Ain't.
Gonna.
Happen.

:)

I cant count the number of times mufflerdragon and I took the side you are supporting against all the people that tried to justify the ezekiel and isaiah passages through Christian eisegesis. There is, as of yet, not a single convincing argument that "Satan, the cast-out enemy of YHVH" is anything more than a NT construct.
 
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EnemyIsHate said:
Does Satan exist?
A very good question, and I don't think that we will ever have one definitive answer in this lifetime.

I believe Satan exists as the minds of those who feed him life allow him to exist. Beliefs are a very powerful thing, and whether or not a powerful and long-standing belief can actually create a spiritual being is beyond my comprehension, so I defer to the possibility.

For myself, I do not believe in Satan. I believe that the Satan mentioned in the Bible is either an aspect of the Great Divine, or a metaphorical reference to a spiritual state of being. In the same way, I do not view Hell as a literal place, but rather, a metaphor for the suffering that an evil mind and spirit brings upon itself as a result of evil beliefs and practices.

Regards,
Druweid
 
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EnemyIsHate said:
Did anyone watch the alkalema videos?
Nope. They take too long and too much space. All I saw was a guy walking around throwing water on people in the two or so minutes I watched. It wasn't very interesting.
 
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Are you on dialup?

Some of the videos start at just over 4MB and the biggest are less then 12MB...

You cannot really pass a comment just by watching a few moments... even after watching them all, i'm not sure if all of them are for real, but to me some definitely seem for real. Most of these cases are not diabolic possession, but there's one case there that you can clearly see (the name says it all) which is...

I have to say that the reason I came to these conclusions is because I actually read a book on the subject recently, and some of the events on these videos resemble what was described in the book... You have to note that most of these cases in the videos seem to be of muslims in an orthodox church... Unless they got some good actors making up this stuff.
 
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chokmah said:
Yeah, but you know where that normally goes...

Straight where pretty much any topic goes. To all hell (pardon the pun). Which is excatly where they belong, and as a fellow 'thread killer' (as you call yourself), I'd think you'd be happy to help me take it there :)
 
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We are humans. We are not perfect. (As some may know.) To my understanding the devil is made from the imaganiton. I said we were humans but really we humans are animals even if you dont like it we are animals. Human is a type of animal. (To my understanding.) Animals kill for terriorty. pride, for the female and for glory (Sometimes) and etc. We humans do the same. Usaully humans kill each other when you go to war (terrioty and many different reasons). Usually ur going to get ur a** kicked or beaten to death (not allways) when you try going out with another mans girl. THeres many more reasons. Technology is mosyly blamed for the rest. Technology i would consdier the devil but it has good sides to it. But blaming this devil for something you did is kind low. like i said its made by mind and used by mind.
 
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urnotme said:
I think most religions believe in satan in one form or another. Some people call it shiva, some people call it ha satan or even shailton. I don't know maybe they don't.

If i am not wrong, some call Satan as Brother of Jesus and some Jesus as the biggest Satan....I don't know maybe they don't.
 
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satay said:
Just when I thought I had seen enough stupidity on this forum another contender rises up and takes the award.

Enjoy.
satay

Dont call that stupidity. These are words of Dharmic wisdom. He has reaiized the eternal truth - that Brahman is the essence of everything - Shiva and Satan.
 
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satay said:
Just when I thought I had seen enough stupidity on this forum another contender rises up and takes the award.

Enjoy.
satay

:amen: to that (if you forgive me that expression).

I am sorry that poster offended you and other Hindus here. I just hope and pray that someday people will know better.

Some people don't no squat about other religions and watched too many times "Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom";) ...Oh no, wait....that was Kali......:doh:
 
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belladonic-haze said:
:amen: to that (if you forgive me that expression).

:) I like using :amen: myself!

I am sorry that poster offended you and other Hindus here. I just hope and pray that someday people will know better.

Some people don't no squat about other religions and watched too many times "Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom";) ...Oh no, wait....that was Kali......:doh:

Somehow I for one am becoming very used to the offensive behaviour and the absurdity of posters here. I suppose ignorance is bliss eh?

satay
 
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belladonic-haze said:
Some people don't no squat about other religions and watched too many times "Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom";) ...Oh no, wait....that was Kali......
The first time I saw that movie, I sat up and went ~gack~
And, truthfully, I know several people who believe that was a fairly accurate portrayal :doh:
 
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MahaSudarshanChakra said:
Dont call that stupidity. These are words of Dharmic wisdom. He has reaiized the eternal truth - that Brahman is the essence of everything - Shiva and Satan.

Only if malecchas could understand how loving Bhagwan Shiva actually is. :sigh:
but then again they won't even if they wanted to due to their karma and current level of capacity.

satay
 
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satay said:
:) I like using :amen: myself!

It is just after all Hebrew for : And that is THE truth!



satay said:
Somehow I for one am becoming very used to the offensive behaviour and the absurdity of posters here. I suppose ignorance is bliss eh?

satay

Well, life is a Bliss.....if people stopped insulting and start respecting.....But then again, I guess Satan is sitting behind the pooter himself and tries to stir things up a bit....;) .
 
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