Does Satan communicate with you?

[disciple Clint]

If we, instead, aim to find out more about God, we will discover that His powers render those of "satan" null and void.

That is a good answer to the question, is God more powerful than satan, that has never been a question. The question is, does satan still exist and is he still the prince of this world, the answer to that question is yes and clearly he is not eliminated until after the return of Jesus.

 

[RaymondG]

That is a good answer to the question, is God more powerful than satan, that has never been a question. The question is, does satan still exist and is he still the prince of this world, the answer to that question is yes and clearly he is not eliminated until after the return of Jesus.

This is only important to those who do not have Christ. For Christ has overcome the world. No one with Christ is concerned with another ruler or adversary......for they know that "greater is He that is in Me, than he that is in the world."

I would assume that the preaching of the existence of satan, and the exclamation of the importance of belief in him, would be important in the churches of satan.....or gatherings in which he is worshiped.

 

[dóxatotheó]

Most American Christians Do Not Believe that Satan or the Holy Spirit Exist - Barna Group


Do you think that Satan communicates with you? I think it is just ourselves. I think we are made up of multiple agents.... see this video about a split brain patient:

I think that agrees with the idea of us having different sources of thoughts like heart, soul, gut, spirit, sinful self, etc.

At 1:40 one brain hemisphere of a split brain patient says they believe in God while the other hemisphere says they don't. So perhaps one hemisphere would go to heaven while the other goes to hell....

A related thing is that it seems Judas was possessed by Satan twice....

In Luke 22:3 it was before the last supper. In John 13:27 it was as soon as Judas took the bread.

God and Satan speaks to us in our mind consciousness and sub-conscious the thing is do you listen or you don't do you fall or you stay up theres a reason God says stay sober-minded so we wouldnt fall in temptation

 

[disciple Clint]

This is only important to those who do not have Christ. For Christ has overcome the world. No one with Christ is concerned with another ruler or adversary......for they know that "greater is He that is in Me, than he that is in the world."

I would assume that the preaching of the existence of satan, and the exclamation of the importance of belief in him, would be important in the churches of satan.....or gatherings in which he is worshiped.

satan is also served by those who deny him because he is then free to do his deeds without detection.

 

[RaymondG]

satan is also served by those who deny him because he is then free to do his deeds without detection.

I do my best to study serving God.....So I have no expertise in how to best serve Satan. If you have experience in the serving or worship of Satan, please proceed in warning us on how to avoid doing the same......I would, however, stop short of teaching ways to serve satan......for I believe this site is dedicated to the opposite.

 

[disciple Clint]

I do my best to study serving God.....So I have no expertise in how to best serve Satan. If you have experience in the serving or worship of Satan, please proceed in warning us on how to avoid doing the same......I would, however, stop short of teaching ways to serve satan......for I believe this site is dedicated to the opposite.

I will simply accept the fact that you failed to understand my post and I will Ignore your inference.

 

[stevil]

No satan,
No angels,
No demons,
No god,
No heaven

People are responsible for their own actions, their own thoughts. It's all us.

 

[RaymondG]

No satan,
No angels,
No demons,
No god,
No heaven

People are responsible for their own actions, their own thoughts. It's all us.

And when you die, you just go into the darkness, of nothing?

 

[stevil]

And when you die, you just go into the darkness, of nothing?

Your brain ceases to function so consciousness is lost. Your body immediately starts to decay

 

[RaymondG]

Your brain ceases to function so consciousness is lost. Your body immediately starts to decay

DO you ever remember having no consciousness, e.g. not existing? If not, how are you so sure that you will be able to experience something that you have never experienced before?

 

[mindlight]

Most American Christians Do Not Believe that Satan or the Holy Spirit Exist - Barna Group


Do you think that Satan communicates with you? I think it is just ourselves. I think we are made up of multiple agents.... see this video about a split brain patient:

I think that agrees with the idea of us having different sources of thoughts like heart, soul, gut, spirit, sinful self, etc.

At 1:40 one brain hemisphere of a split brain patient says they believe in God while the other hemisphere says they don't. So perhaps one hemisphere would go to heaven while the other goes to hell....

A related thing is that it seems Judas was possessed by Satan twice....

In Luke 22:3 it was before the last supper. In John 13:27 it was as soon as Judas took the bread.

I know He is real, maybe I have even met him once or twice. But if he is talking Iam doing my best to ignore him.

 

[RaymondG]

" Know therefore this day, and consider it in thine heart, that the Lord he is God in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath: there is none else."

There are some, on spiritual paths, that believe it a sin, to give God opposition, or opponents.......To say that God's will and plan, can be interrupted by some other god, or entity.

Be careful, those, that would try to enforce belief in another power, after one is introduced to the true and living God.....

 

[stevil]

DO you every remember having no consciousness, e.g. not existing? If not, how are you so sure that you will be able to experience something that you have never experienced before?

???
What experience have I suggested? I don't consider the time after death has occurred to be a conscious experience. I won't be aware that my body is rotting. There will no longer be a me.

 

[RaymondG]

???
What experience have I suggested? I don't consider the time after death has occurred to be a conscious experience. I won't be aware that my body is rotting. There will no longer be a me.

You've suggested no experience at all...which is the point. Us religious folk, talk about experiencing heaven, when we have never experienced it before..... And now you are talking about experiencing Nothingness, when you have admitted to never experiencing it before.

What makes you lean more towards your inexperience, than ours?

 

[stevil]

You've suggested no experience at all...which is the point. Us religious folk, talk about experiencing heaven, when we have never experienced it before..... And now you are talking about experiencing Nothingness, when you have admitted to never experiencing it before.

What makes you lean more towards your inexperience, than ours?

nothingness isn't an experience.

It is lack of an experience.

I fail to understand how consciousness and experiences can continue once the brain shuts down and starts to decay

 

[RaymondG]

nothingness isn't an experience.

It is lack of an experience.

I fail to understand how consciousness and experiences can continue once the brain shuts down and starts to decay

Your body is it's own entity and does not need your consciousness to go on. Of course you can insert your will every now and then, and make it stop breathing for close to a minute or control your own breathing at will........ But when you stop paying attention to your breathing.....your body takes over and breathes on it's own.... Thankfully, the body does allow us to similarly control the heart beat.....That is above our pay grade. The only thing the body needs from us.....is the knowledge that we plan to return to it....it will keep functioning until this is no longer the case....otherwise, you will need machines to keep it going...in normal situations.

Now...

If you want your mind blown....Think about how you felt looking in the mirror 10, 20 years ago....and how you felt looking in it today.... If you think carefully, you will notice that the one looking 20 years ago is exactly the same one looking today.......Yet the image in the mirror changed.......and YOU noticed the change even though YOU did not change at all!

So who is it that is looking at your body in the mirror and noticing how much it has change? That is YOU....and YOU, my friend, cannot die.

Now.....we can talk about what happens when this body gets too old to continue in.....

 

[stevil]

Your body is it's own entity and does not need your consciousness to go on.

Of course. When you sleep or are knocked unconscious, your body stays breathing and heart stays beating.

Of course you can insert your will every now and then, and make it stop breathing for close to a minute or control your own breathing at will........

Yip, your brain has the capability to control your body, that is a well established fact.

But when you stop paying attention to your breathing.....your body takes over and breathes on it's own....

You need signals from the brain to keep the lungs breathing.
Brain dead patients don't continue breathing, they are put on ventilator.

Thankfully, the body does allow us to similarly control the heart beat.....That is above our pay grade.

For brain dead people, the heart continues to beat for a while.

The only thing the body needs from us.....is the knowledge that we plan to return to it....it will keep functioning until this is no longer the case....otherwise, you will need machines to keep it going...in normal situations.

This is pseudoscience nonsense.
The mind hasn't left the body, the body has no knowledge if a mind is going to ever return or not.

If you want your mind blown....Think about how you felt looking in the mirror 10, 20 years ago....and how you felt looking in it today.... If you think carefully, you will notice that the one looking 20 years ago is exactly the same one looking today.......Yet the image in the mirror changed.......and YOU noticed the change even though YOU did not change at all!

Huh?
I am forever changing. My physical makeup affects my personality. I am a very different person now than what I was 10-20 years ago.

So who is it that is looking at your body in the mirror and noticing how much it has change? That is YOU....and YOU, my friend, cannot die.

I'm absolutely sure that I can die. I don't want to test this yet though. But for now, I'm careful around electrical equipment and when swimming and I wear a seatbelt when in the car.

 

[RaymondG]

This is pseudoscience nonsense.
The mind hasn't left the body, the body has no knowledge if a mind is going to ever return or not.

I am not talking about the mind, I am talking about YOU. The one who seeing the memories left in the mind. The One who chooses to read information that the mind retains.

Huh?
I am forever changing. My physical makeup affects my personality. I am a very different person now than what I was 10-20 years ago.

This is incorrect.....You are the one who notices the changes of the body and mind..... If you look carefully you will notice that you can read a book twice....the 1st time you know not what is coming on the next page......but the second time, you know what is coming.....because your body stored it in memory.......So your body/mind changed......but the person looking at the words is exactly the same both times.

One can have a lifetime of memories and experiences, and lose them all in a second after getting hit on the head. Would this be dying to you? I guess we could call this person dead, because he had no remembrance of a life before that head hit....but this would not technically be true.....because he would still be living, breathing and walking around just like you and me.... Yet all his family and experiences are erased from his mind.

Yet, he would be more alive now than before the head hit, you see.......because He will then only identify with life, and not the years of experiences as you and I do.

I'm absolutely sure that I can die. I don't want to test this yet though. But for now, I'm careful around electrical equipment and when swimming and I wear a seatbelt when in the car.

And you are right, Most will die and become no more........but not in the way you may think......It would be more like the guy getting hit on the head...... You will be dead because you lost your memories, not because you are actually no longer alive.

This, you see, is where religion is supposed to come in..... I Am the Life. He that liveth and believe in me, shall never die.

We choose to die so that we can continue to live......instead of living to dye.....

But life is not everyone's cup of tea......so let me know if you are interested.

 

[stevil]

I am not talking about the mind, I am talking about YOU. The one who seeing the memories left in the mind. The One who chooses to read information that the mind retains.

I am the combination of my mind's running state and my body (including memories stored in my brain). There is nothing extra to that. Shut down my brain and there is no running state of the mind, just a body. Remove the body (including the brain) and there is no mind.
In both circumstances there is no "me" left.

This is incorrect.....You are the one who notices the changes of the body and mind..... If you look carefully you will notice that you can read a book twice....the 1st time you know not what is coming on the next page......but the second time, you know what is coming.....because your body stored it in memory.......So your body/mind changed......but the person looking at the words is exactly the same both times.

In a painfully simplistic way the "I" is me. If you were able to have a cloning machine that could duplicate exactly my physical state, then there would be two "I's". we would diverge from that moment on, but both of us would equally claim to be the same person and the person from 10 years ago. We would both consider ourselves to be the original and not the clone.

 

[RaymondG]

I am the combination of my mind's running state and my body (including memories stored in my brain). There is nothing extra to that. Shut down my brain and there is no running state of the mind, just a body. Remove the body (including the brain) and there is no mind.
In both circumstances there is no "me" left.

YOU are not the mind or the body......you are the user of the mind an body.....and like you stated above, YOU are responsible for the thoughts you retain and beliefs and how you use what you have been given.....therefore, there is no need to blame an outside entity for your actions.

But one day your vehicle will stop running.....and you will have to step out of it....

In a painfully simplistic way the "I" is me. If you were able to have a cloning machine that could duplicate exactly my physical state, then there would be two "I's". we would diverge from that moment on, but both of us would equally claim to be the same person and the person from 10 years ago. We would both consider ourselves to be the original and not the clone.

Yes!, the I is you! "I am the life!" This I is the only thing that is there when you are first born....after getting your memories knock out of your head...and for a period after your vehicle fails.

Yes! we all start as "I" only..........When/if this I is cloned.....which I believe it is.......We all start identifying with our own experiences and images in the mirror.

So, on the contrary, none of the clones would identify with the original "I", although they should.....They would be just like you and me, saying that we are different people because of the images in the mirror and different life experiences.......forgetting that we both started as "I" and will return to it.

"I" am the Life..... if ye believe in me, though you were dead, yet shall he live. And those that are alive and believe......shall never die. Believest thou this?