Does opinion superceed Scripture

[davedjy]

Very nearly, but not quite. The Orthodox have 3 & 4 Maccabees and Psalm 151 IIRC.

The point here isn't that any important truths depend on the difference, but rather that pretending that the canon was decided by some neat process is unsustainable. It fails to acknowledge the long drawn out, messy, process of recognition that was (and to an extent still is) the reality.

Of course, to my mind that increases my confidence in it rather than decreasing it.

I wasn't saying it was a neat process...I have read it was anything but that. There were the Councils though, and there was some order on how it eventually got put in there...hence the Councils.

 

[ebia]

I wasn't saying it was a neat process...I have read it was anything but that. There were the Councils though, and there was some order on how it eventually got put in there...hence the Councils.

Since it wasn't done primarily by a process of council, and still isn't complete, I'm not sure what is left of your point.

 

[davedjy]

Since it wasn't done primarily by a process of council, and still isn't complete, I'm not sure what is left of your point.

It doesn't need to be done "primarily" that way, that is just a dodging of the fact that there were councils!

I don't get your point, here. What do you mean that it "still isn't complete"?

 

[LoveForWisdom]

You ever heard of Existential Christianity? Thats what this thread's all about.

Now I think its awfully foolish to think that Subjectivism undercuts Objectivism when Subjectivism is easily disproven, whereas Objectivism (Not Ayn Rand's Communism) is not even touchable. Its quite an easy decision to make here. Gospel over opinion.

 

[ebia]

It doesn't need to be done "primarily" that way, that is just a dodging of the fact that there were councils!

Perhaps, but since councils were never central to the process it's not really meaningful to say "The original council for the Bible Canon are not around anymore...".



I don't get your point, here. What do you mean that it "still isn't complete"?[/quote]
Approx 1900 years since the last book was written, and we still haven't agreed on exactly what the canon is.

 

[davedjy]

Approx 1900 years since the last book was written, and we still haven't agreed on exactly what the canon is.

I don't believe that has anything to do with whether it is finished or not. Everyone has their interpretations and which books should be in there, but they all think they are right, and they have decided that much. Are you hinting at the fact that the various faiths and denominations will be changing what they believe again or just the individual will change?

 

[ebia]

I don't believe that has anything to do with whether it is finished or not. Everyone has their interpretations and which books should be in there, but they all think they are right, and they have decided that much. Are you hinting at the fact that the various faiths and denominations will be changing what they believe again or just the individual will change?

Surely the whole point of a canon is an agreed definitive statement on which books constitute scripture.

Whether or not we will agree before Christ comes again I wouldn't care to say. I can't see it happening in the near future. But it could indicate the Holy Spirit hasn't yet finished his job in this area.