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Does morality exist without God?
- Thread starter AGODBELIEVERlove1stfaith2
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Ok: Not everyone´s morality is equal, mine is superiour and I have a claim on morality that is incumbent on others.
Problem solved.
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No, you are wrong there. The bible is just the subjective opinion of its writers.
Whereas I have discovered the objective truth that comes from the Highest Authority.
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There is no difference between a moral relativist and someone who has no morality at all.
thats a lie a moral relativist coud have the same moral rules for him or her self that an objectiveist has and could evne try to force or perswade others to those views jsut like an objectivist
The kind of moral champion relativism produces is someone that has no regard for human life, does not know the difference between right and wrong, instead consistently follows the beat of their own moral drum, with no conscience.
unless the reltivist has regard for human life.
objectives can certanly disrgerd the lives of other whn they bleve they should
a relativst may very well know thje difrence between right and worng as ther based on the mind of the relativist.
an objectiveist may declare anyhtung right or worng and would still as you put it march to the beet of ther own drum but i supose the could march to the beat of soem one elses no matter what the involves if they belive what ther doing has to be right
a so called objective position is built upon your understnaidng and choices just like a rleativsts the only thing you have is more certanty that what you deem good is good for evry one and that wat you deam evil is evil for evry one
you might manage to build something less flexbale and more asuring to yourself but that dosent make it any more true
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Really? So I can't, as a moral relativist, say "I don't want to get murdered. I bet others do not want to get murdered either. I should get together with like minded individuals and create a law against murder."? It seems to me you are creating a bit of a straw man equating any subjective moral frame work with amorality. We can build a moral framework on many different things and convince others that said moral framework is valid. Society then takes that moral framework and uses to create and enforce laws. This is how our current secular law system has come about and I don't see large groups demanding the legalization of murder.
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that may be so and we may be morl or imorl to any gods that exist but why would that make how moral or imoral we are to aresleves any less important or real in comparison
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GASP
laws and rules made by subjectve but simaler opinyons among difrent but in some ways simuler pepole
news at 11
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the thing your not right becase your sure your right and something dosent come from the highest auhtorty becase it is claimed to
minde you when it comes to yourslef some one who dosent belive in unveral objectve morlaity is ther own highst authority
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as far as i know a god has never told me he is behinde the bible as far as i know a god has never spoken to any one
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...but your subjective opinion doesn´t count here.
No, that´s what the writers of the bible wrote.
Yeah, but that doesn´t help solving the problem that your morality is subjective because it doesn´t come from the Highest Authority.
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