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No. The universe may not obey the laws of earth. If not..all basis for your claim is null and void..and you cannot prove it, so do not claim it.
The very first verse in the Bible says: "1:1 In the beginning God created * the heaven and the earth." Created is an expression of two words in the Hebrew. Perhaps you would like to share with us what you believe the word "Created" means. This is the third word used at the very beginning of the Bible.
Irrelevant: you asserted that calculus does not involve the mathematical concept of infinity, so prove it. If calculus doesn't use infinity, then you should be able to show the differential of x[sup]2[/sup] with respect to x is 2x. So do it. Prove to us, one and for all, that you're right.
We don't need to wait for eternity, that's the whole point.
Irrelevant: the system, right here and now, in our laboratory, experiences this phenomenon. It doesn't matter if it's a feature of this state or not.
Yes, it is. It actually, genuinely, physically does have an infinitely high temperature. And of course it's a name: it's the English word used for the phenomenon we're discussing. If you disagree that the temperature is infinity, then prove it.
So?
Indeed, and certain experiments reveal quantities that are genuinely, physically infinite.
Prove it. Prove that the quantum thermodynamic system I described is "unrelated to actual infinity".
No, I would argue that what real infinity and eternity are, is not contained in your math constructions. It may use theoretical infinity concepts, but when I think of eternity and infinity, the concepts reach higher than man's calculations. Man is in a finite world and universe and state. Therefore, however we mentally project things needs to be in perspective.
You can't. That is more to the point.
Infinity is a name, yes, as is eternity. Neither of which can be comprehended fully within a fishbowl of a temporal state. But, hey, if it makes you feel like a god or something, have fun playing with that.
In a sense of the word, perhaps. But not a real sense as I think of eternal or infinite.
Thanks. Having reasons (excuses as you call it) for why the pure form of eternal and infinite don't apply within a non infinite and non eternal sphere is easy. But I guess you could imagine that if something in a temporal lab on a temporal planet, in a temporal state set of forces and laws, in a temporal universe was truly able to do anything it now does infinitely or forever if you like. Seems vain and pretentious to me though.
I would think it means what is sounds like. Why? That does not mean that Eden was the same as New York. Nor does it mean that all laws and realities in heaven or the heavens are the same as they were pre flood. Nor that they will be the same in the tribulation, or millennium..etc. Of course He created it all.
Hey tell them that that is farmyard dropping stuff. They are wrong. We were here first, and they have almost no real clue. If you start tossing out claims here be prepared to show the basis. Don't think you can play the 'but they have a PHD, they have to be right somehow' game. No. God is right. They are pathetic jokers.
Baloney. Get serious. Man detects the stuff we have on earth elsewhere also...whoopee do.
No, you can't. Not unless it is burned on earth or near! Cut it out.
Yes, I tend to question such claims. Invariably they come up short.To infinity and beyond!!
What claim do you want me to support? When I say: science says this or science says that, then it is up to science to support their claim. I am only informing you what they say. Often I get my science from a Nova PBS program. They usually promote programs based on a best selling book. Or in this case the information comes from Brian Cox on BBC. I am only telling you want science says. For me it is amazing that God gives us the understanding to share with us HOW He does what He does.
Foe example, you claimed this
That tells us a lot. Naming some guy that impressed you. Never heard of him. I tire of you and this thread.
Then we have been talking past each other. Throughout, I've maintained and defined infinity in purely mathematical terms, while you have adopted a more... existential stance. Clearly, we're talking about completely different things when we use the word 'infinity'. Ah, such is the fickle nature of English
OK.Then we have been talking past each other. Throughout, I've maintained and defined infinity in purely mathematical terms, while you have adopted a more... existential stance. Clearly, we're talking about completely different things when we use the word 'infinity'. Ah, such is the fickle nature of English
 /ˈɪnfənɪt/ Show Spelled[in-fuh-nit] Show IPA He impressed me with his ability to be able to teach and communicate. He has a way to make learning fun and easy. Jesus was the greatest teacher that ever lived. Clearly we are to follow His example and develop our communication skills and the ability to be able to teach. Even though James warns us: "let not many of you become teachers, knowing that we shall receive a stricter judgment."
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