Does 'Goddidit' constitute an explanation?

[BananaSlug]

Oh no, Paul's going to the lake of fire?

Well which is it? Do we have to ask or, as Paul states in Romans 9, does God choose? Romans 9 seems to make it pretty clear the choice is not up to us.

 

[3sigma]

I assume you mean after the Scientific Method was invented in what, the 18th century?

Are you kidding?

You guys sound smart. I bet your mommies are very proud of you.

We always have to show you God. It is alot easier to help someone who will try to help himself.

I take it from these mewling responses that neither of you can provide even a single instance where “God did it” has been tested and verified as the true explanation for anything at all.

What sort of person still thinks something is true when it has never been shown to be true and has, in several cases, been shown to be false?

 

[kenblaster5000]

I take it from these mewling responses that neither of you can provide even a single instance where “God did it” has been tested and verified as the true explanation for anything at all.

What sort of person still thinks something is true when it has never been shown to be true and has, in several cases, been shown to be false?

A person with faith, diligence, and a seeker. As opposed to someone who thinks he has shown that angels, God, the devil, etc. do not exist. God has proven Himself to me. That is all that matters. I have seen demons, as well as an angel. I have seen God writing the commandments with lightning from His fingertips and Jesus Christ opening up the book of life. Guess what? Your name is not written in there.

 

[AV1611VET]

Fear of the Lord is good, but when people fear Him without the knowledge of Him, then you have parents having them baptized because of their conscience, thinking the children are going to go to heaven.

Yup ---

People talk about "blind faith" --- well "blind fear" is just as bad.

 

[AV1611VET]

I take it from these mewling responses that neither of you can provide even a single instance where “God did it” has been tested and verified as the true explanation for anything at all.

Do you realize what you're even asking for?

When Jesus ascended into Heaven in Acts 1, there went all your evidence.

Now, the Scientific Method came about when? 18 centuries later?

So when I use a verse like this:

To whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God:

... let me take a guess at what someone is going to respond.

That was their proof --- do we have any "modern" evidence that He [insert miracle here]?

 

[Meshach]

Is there anyone who can know other than God Himself who's heart has been hardened? I can totally relate to what it says here in

1 Timothy 1:15
15This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.



John 3:16-18
16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.


Roman 5:8
8But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.


John 10:9
9I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.


John 14:6
6Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

John 1:12
12But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:


John 3:36
36He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.


Revelation 3:20
20Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.




The above verses are just a few that I believe show what is necessary to be saved and that everyone is eligible.

2 Peter 3:9
9The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

 

[kenblaster5000]

Yes, I think we can tell when someone has a hardened heart. I can tell a person is saved, or is not saved. Some people, it is hard to tell if they are saved. By the words out of our mouth we will be judged. Not only that, whether we mean them or not. Not every one who says Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of God.

 

[3sigma]

A person with faith…

I see. So to have faith is to believe something that has never been shown to be true and in some cases been shown to be false. I can think of other words for this, but it’s good to know that this is what religious believers mean when they say they have “faith”.

Guess what? Your name is not written in there.

Oh dear. Whatever shall I do?

 

[3sigma]

Do you realize what you're even asking for?

When Jesus ascended into Heaven in Acts 1, there went all your evidence.

Now, the Scientific Method came about when? 18 centuries later?

It’s just one excuse after another. The fact remains that you cannot provide a single instance, from any time past or present, where “God did it” has been tested and verified as the true explanation for anything at all.

 

[kenblaster5000]

It’s just one excuse after another. The fact remains that you cannot provide a single instance, from any time past or present, where “God did it” has been tested and verified as the true explanation for anything at all.

Who formed you in your mother's womb?

 

[Wedjat]

His mother. Actually that's not completely accurate, there is a lot of self-forming that goes on in fetal development, just like growing. His mother provided nutrients and housing, his dividing cells provided growth, genetic timers provided form.

 

[AV1611VET]

It’s just one excuse after another. The fact remains that you cannot provide a single instance, from any time past or present, where “God did it” has been tested and verified as the true explanation for anything at all.

Ain't that a shame?

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[kenblaster5000]

His mother. Actually that's not completely accurate, there is a lot of self-forming that goes on in fetal development, just like growing. His mother provided nutrients and housing, his dividing cells provided growth, genetic timers provided form.

Who or what made the process that way, assuming you are correct?

 

[Wedjat]

The process of fetal development? That's what the majority of your DNA is about. Most of it gets turned off as soon as you mature because it's all being used as a template for how a baby develops. That's all evolution is about, how to build a better baby. This is why genetic mutations have the most impact during development, not later in life, this is also why almost all early fetuses look the same, they start with a basic template and the mutations form from there.

 

[kenblaster5000]

The process of fetal development? That's what the majority of your DNA is about. Most of it gets turned off as soon as you mature because it's all being used as a template for how a baby develops. That's all evolution is about, how to build a better baby. This is why genetic mutations have the most impact during development, not later in life, this is also why almost all early fetuses look the same, they start with a basic template and the mutations form from there.

Who or what set all these processes in order?

Jeremiah 1:5

(Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee); and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

I believe the word of God. He said He formed us in the belly, and He knew us before then.

Who came up with the term evolution? Who came up with the term evidence?

You know where I am going. Why do we turn a blind eye to evidence in God's word?

 

[kenblaster5000]

evidence-

1. an outward sign
2.something that furnishes proofroof, testimony esp. matter submitted in court to determine the truth of alleged facts

attestation, confirmation, testament, testimony, validation, witness.

God has confirmed to me that He is real by signs. He has given me the old and new testament. I have given a testimony. He has validated me as a good father would his child. He has made me a witness. I am evidence that God is real, and I do not break the commandment, "Thou shalt not bear false witness."

 

[kenblaster5000]

I see. So to have faith is to believe something that has never been shown to be true and in some cases been shown to be false. I can think of other words for this, but it’s good to know that this is what religious believers mean when they say they have “faith”.


Oh dear. Whatever shall I do?

Matthew 3:2 Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

 

[Wedjat]

Who or what set all these processes in order?

Jeremiah 1:5

(Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee); and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

I believe the word of God. He said He formed us in the belly, and He knew us before then.

Who came up with the term evolution? Who came up with the term evidence?

You know where I am going. Why do we turn a blind eye to evidence in God's word?

Good for you, believe what you wan't, you've already made it clear you're not interested in the actual science behind it, so you know, I'll live and let live. Sorry I brought it up.
If you ever are interested contact me.
If I'm ever interested in your view, I'll contact you.

 

[kenblaster5000]

Good for you, believe what you wan't, you've already made it clear you're not interested in the actual science behind it, so you know, I'll live and let live. Sorry I brought it up.
If you ever are interested contact me.
If I'm ever interested in your view, I'll contact you.

I just gave you the proof of evidence. But, I did not mean to pick on you. I really enjoy talking with you. You do for others if you have the mean to. Really, sigma needs to see the definition of evidence and admit that I and others have presented evidence. Now I have shown and attested that I know that God exists. "God did it" is real to me. I read it all the time in the bible.

Genesis 1:1

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Is there a heaven. Is there an earth.

Proof that these exist and evidence that God created them. That is, Genesis gives a record of this event.

 

[sandwiches]

3sigma asked:

What sort of person still thinks something is true when it has never been shown to be true and has, in several cases, been shown to be false?

kenblaster answered:

A person with faith, diligence, and a seeker.

For those who missed it, this little Q&A went like this:
3sigma: "Who can believe without evidence?"
kenblaster: "Those who believe."

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