Does 'Goddidit' constitute an explanation?

[Skaloop]

Not by itself, no.
People do seem to be fascinated with mutation fiction.
No doubt about that.

Here are 400+ zombie films

I'd be careful about calling zombies, or people who rose from the dead, fiction, lest you start to question your own beliefs.

And 100 books on evolution

(At a quick glance, it looks like there are about 5 people who support
evolutionary theory enough to write about it.)

I personally own books on evolution written by more than five authors. And my collection isn't even that broad. Sure, some are more prolific than others, but there are far more than five.

Also, that's a list of popular science books. Most writing on evolution is done in journals within the relevant scientific disciplines, for other scientists, not the general public. And there are thousands upon thousands of people writing in those circles.

On the other hand, for popular science books, being both an expert on a complex and advanced subject (not just eovlution, but any subject) and able to write an engaging, marketable, readable book for the general public is a rare gift. So I wouldn't expect a plethora of authors on your list anyway.

ETA: Actually, i just looked through the list a little. There are more than five authors listed under 'D' alone! What kind of nonsense are you going for? Even without scrolling down, I can see more than five authors listed. Even if there were only five, that doesn't affect the veracity of what they are writing about.

Also, you gave a list of sixty-three books on evolution, then complained that it appears only five people care to write about it (even though even a cursory glance shows that to be extremely wrong). Did you happen to check out the related wiki page about books on non-evolutionary explanations for life? That whole list has a whopping nine books. That's nine, grand total.

 

[sk8Joyful]

I know the Scientific method is your god, but on the plus side, the truth is coming out, revealing God the Creator as the source of all life.

Hi there, of course 'God-did-it' (originally created it all), & why atheists started this thread, as another of their vain dis-crediting attempts, while wasting life. - When instead, as GOD created them they can CHOOSE to accept God's FREE-gifts of Salvation-Joy-Health. Yes, all these & more are available because 'God-did-it' (originally created it all). - It's all so simple, that any LITTLE-child easily accepts these truths, and lives... them, and why GOD, as Christ said: Want to live in Heaven? - 1st. convert, and become as a LITTLE-child, Matthew18:1-5

and Notice - God's emphasis on the word 'LITTLE', as not any child will do.
As a child is schooled by the world, & adorns himself with 'college-degrees', so learned they delude themselves, as if they are wise; but are they?: when atheists favor abortion, Christian-mockery, societal-murder, or euthanasia as cool, how wise are they?; seeking in vain to STOP, God's work from progressing...as most surely it will. - Tho atheists won't be a part of it, by their own choice. So deluded, they even anticipate continuing their current fun, in their 'eternal! hell'; now how sad is that.
Fortunately,
GOD, our Wisely-Loving Father did offer His way: Want instead to live in Heaven? - 1st. convert, and become as a LITTLE-child, Matthew18:1-5
How many atheists will 'wisen-UP' , and CHOOSE living in GOD's Heaven...

I do consider those writings to be as valid as my own experiences.

Though when you say 'devout'; I think more of people who are raised in Christian backgrounds. Usually with religious parents, or in a conservative type of church they attended regularly.

really? re: 'Religious-parents in a conservative-church raise devout-children'. - So what of us Christians, raised by communist-parents in a communist-country? - according to your thoughts, we are not 'in-God-devout'? - All over CF, christians of near endless churches, yet sing the same praises to 'science-gods', as do atheists. - When sick, they pray, as they run to their doctors, and not giving it another thought, follow a bazillion doctors' orders; as IF those were included in their Bible, which assuredly they are not. Yes, most christians live such very devout lives. - So evidently not just any devout will do.
In fact, how did GOD, as Christ, encourage us to peacefully joyfully worship Him?
God said: with other 'like-Minded'; not just any christian. GOD, our Wisely-Loving Father did offer His way: Want instead to live in Heaven? - 1st. convert, and become as a LITTLE-child, Matthew18:1-5
why? because LITTLE-children, when so blessed & encouraged, quite freely choose living Saved-joyful-healthy... How many christians will 'wisen-UP' , and CHOOSE living in GOD's Heaven...

 

[CoderHead]

We each have our specialties.

I honestly have no clue what this means.

 

[sandwiches]

Hi there, of course 'God-did-it' (originally created it all), & why atheists started this thread, as another of their vain dis-crediting attempts, while wasting life. - When instead, as GOD created them they can CHOOSE to accept God's FREE-gifts of Salvation-Joy-Health. Yes, all these & more are available because 'God-did-it' (originally created it all). - It's all so simple, that any LITTLE-child easily accepts these truths, and lives... them, and why GOD, as Christ said: Want to live in Heaven? - 1st. convert, and become as a LITTLE-child, Matthew18:1-5

and Notice - God's emphasis on the word 'LITTLE', as not any child will do.
As a child is schooled by the world, & adorns himself with 'college-degrees', so learned they delude themselves, as if they are wise; but are they?: when atheists favor abortion, Christian-mockery, societal-murder, or euthanasia as cool, how wise are they?; seeking in vain to STOP, God's work from progressing...as most surely it will. - Tho atheists won't be a part of it, by their own choice. So deluded, they even anticipate continuing their current fun, in their 'eternal! hell'; now how sad is that.
Fortunately,
GOD, our Wisely-Loving Father did offer His way: Want instead to live in Heaven? - 1st. convert, and become as a LITTLE-child, Matthew18:1-5
How many atheists will 'wisen-UP' , and CHOOSE living in GOD's Heaven...


really? re: 'Religious-parents in a conservative-church raise devout-children'. - So what of us Christians, raised by communist-parents in a communist-country? - according to your thoughts, we are not 'in-God-devout'? - All over CF, christians of near endless churches, yet sing the same praises to 'science-gods', as do atheists. - When sick, they pray, as they run to their doctors, and not giving it another thought, follow a bazillion doctors' orders; as IF those were included in their Bible, which assuredly they are not. Yes, most christians live such very devout lives. - So evidently not just any devout will do.
In fact, how did GOD, as Christ, encourage us to peacefully joyfully worship Him?
God said: with other 'like-Minded'; not just any christian. GOD, our Wisely-Loving Father did offer His way: Want instead to live in Heaven? - 1st. convert, and become as a LITTLE-child, Matthew18:1-5
why? because LITTLE-children, when so blessed & encouraged, quite freely choose living Saved-joyful-healthy... How many christians will 'wisen-UP' , and CHOOSE living in GOD's Heaven...

Ummm.... what?

This mess is simply too incoherent and badly written for me to understand. I really don't get how you acquired this horrible style of writing making up words like 'DIS-ease' or 'LITTLE-child.' Your use of hyphens, capitalization, punctuation, spacing, paragraphs, or just grammar and spelling in general is awful.

 

[sk8Joyful]

This mess is simply too incoherent and badly written for me to understand. I really don't get how you acquired this horrible style of writing making up words like 'DIS-ease' or 'LITTLE-child.' Your use of hyphens, capitalization, punctuation, spacing, paragraphs, or just grammar and spelling in general is awful.

Funny thing, I work as a teacher - in 3 different contexts, two of them in paid$positions; and none of my 1000's of students have had any problems understanding, either the contexts, my intents, my style of communicating, or my word-usages.
One thing is very clear too: they come, 'Ready to learn'... and thus gain greater success...
Give 'their attitudes' a try, and you can enjoy similar outcomes... PRAISE God!

 

[sandwiches]

Funny thing, I work as a teacher - in 3 different contexts, two of them in paid$positions; and none of my 1000's of students have had any problems understanding, either the contexts, my intents, my style of communicating, or my word-usages.
One thing is very clear too: they come, 'Ready to learn'... and thus gain greater success...
Give 'their attitudes' a try, and you can enjoy similar outcomes... PRAISE God!

I'm assuming that your teaching position has nothing to do with the English language then. I mean, your grammar is completely arbitrary and random. Just look at you last post: You start a clause with a hyphen and end it with a comma. You use 'paid$position' and 'word-usages.' You use ellipses instead of periods to end some sentences, and then you fail to capitalize the correct words at the start of sentences, you randomly put words in quotations, there's random line breaks, paragraphs, and unnecessary commas and other punctuation.

 

[3sigma]

So again can you prove (statistically or otherwise) that empirical evidence (or statistical evidence based on empirical evidence) is the only basis for assertaining the existance of something?

No, I can’t prove the non-existence of evidence other than empirical evidence for ascertaining the existence of something. Can you show me another type of sound, objective evidence that can be used to ascertain and verify the existence of something?

Define 'sound, objective evidence'.

Sound, objective evidence is evidence that is free from error, fallacy or misapprehension. It is evidence that is of, relating to or being an object, phenomenon or condition in the realm of sensible experience independent of individual thought and perceptible by all observers; evidence having reality independent of the mind.

Some examples of sound, objective evidence would be the physical properties of objects such as their size or weight measured by instruments or unaltered video footage of an event. Some examples of evidence that is not sound, objective evidence would be stories in a book, feelings, imagination and subjective interpretations of events often referred to as “personal experiences” by religious believers.

 

[sk8Joyful]

I'm assuming that your teaching position has nothing to do with the English language then.

true, I don't teach 'english', per se, at this time; I did when we homeschooled, and in our alternative-school students graduated from traditional colleges, with honors, no less at age 17

Also, English is my 3rd., of 7 languages. I teach other languages at this time, by choice the language or better said 'theory & practices of personal successes'

I mean, your grammar is ... and then you fail ...

And you know your little thread-diversion, is not the purpose of this thread, except as it relates to belittling via mocking, yet another Christian.

Fortunately in GOD's eyes, I have succeeded already, for I totally accept Him as my Creator, Father, Teacher, SAVIOR, mentor, Best-friend, and Resurrector. - That's one relationship not to fail; so in all these, have you succeeded?

 

[sandwiches]

true, I don't teach 'english', per se, at this time; I did when we homeschooled, and in our alternative-school students graduated from traditional colleges, with honors, no less at age 17

Also, English is my 3rd., of 7 languages. I teach other languages at this time, by choice the language or better said 'theory & practices of personal successes' And you know your little thread-diversion, is not the purpose of this thread, except as it relates to belittling via mocking, yet another Christian.

Fortunately in GOD's eyes, I have succeeded already, for I totally accept Him as my Creator, Father, Teacher, SAVIOR, mentor, Best-friend, and Resurrector. - That's one relationship not to fail; so in all these, have you succeeded?

I'm sorry if I was demeaning but I seriously can't understand what you're saying a lot of the time. At any rate, I derailed this enough. Back to 'goddidit.'

 

[Wedjat]

when atheists favor abortion, Christian-mockery, societal-murder, or euthanasia as cool, how wise are they?

Excuse me? What is this? I am speechless; is this how you really view us? No one I have ever met "favors abortion" no one thinks euthanasia is "cool", I don't even know what to say, the degree to which this is just blatantly offensive is staggering. What do you have to say for yourself?

So deluded, they even anticipate continuing their current fun, in their 'eternal!

hell';

clearly you have no clue what an atheist is, as atheists, by definition, don't believe in a biblical hell.

 

[sk8Joyful]

clearly you have no clue what an atheist is. What do you have to say for yourself?

Before you (mis)judge someone, wisely gather the facts...
dictionary.com: An atheist is a person who denies, the existence of a supreme divine deity. - that is true of the country I was born in, as the communist country in which i spent my 1st. 13-yrs.; (just 5 yrs. younger than your current age). - Beyond that, I've worked decades... in a dozen+ medical arenas, mostly with atheists, sadly.
This in response, for you asking what I had to say for myself.

No one I have ever met favors abortion

the operative phrase in your sentence, was 'I have ever met'. - Unfortunately, more facts:
1. in the 1970's while in Nursing school, they posted our rotation thru their 'abortion-clinic'. On seeing that, I fainted, and on awakening screamed: 'oh my God, 'Medicine' is related to the 'Mafia=murder-for-hire'. - I was the only student who said: My soul is not for sale; iow I will never participate in such crimes-against-humanity.
2. in the 1980's, docs tried to abort my own daughter, who they insisted be born dead, or horribly deformed, and permanently on life-support. - This precious child was born perfectly-formed, and functioning with a 10/10 Apgar score; and homeschooled, she graduated from college with honors at age 17
This further in response, for you asking what I had to say for myself.
3. via the www. you can get numerous related facts.

no one thinks euthanasia is 'cool'

Unfortunately, in 1939 the Nazis. Before their concentration-camps, their 'euthanasia programme' in various specialized medicine departments: >70,000 psychiatric patients fell victim: gassed or poisoned. AND now in Montana, Oregon and Washington, as in those states euthanasia, or 'doctor-assisted suicide' as they like to call those killings, are practiced too. - Way too many vulnerable people's lives are innocently snuffed out.

atheists, by definition, don't believe in a biblical hell.

Surely, that's no reason or excuse to put other people thru hell(s) of FORCEd abortions, and/or euthanasia; do you agree?
Particularly, since GOD had nothing to do with either shameful sin.

I don't even know what to say, the degree to which this is just blatantly offensive is staggering.

Agreed!, the degree to which FORCEd abortions, and/or euthanasia IS just blatantly offensive, is staggering. - Good for you!, that you have enough of your soul and mind intact, to find those abhorrent murders, mind-boggling. - There's much you can do, with other young people, to slow those monstrosities. - This would be another thing you can say for yourself.

As I counsel young people daily: Discover your 'wholesome and LIFE-constructive'... passions and live them

.

 

[Wedjat]

Before you (mis)judge someone, wisely gather the facts...
dictionary.com: An atheist is a person who denies, the existence of a supreme divine deity. - that is true of the country I was born in, as the communist country in which i spent my 1st. 13-yrs.; (just 5 yrs. younger than your current age). - Beyond that, I've worked decades... in a dozen+ medical arenas, mostly with atheists, sadly.
This in response, for you asking what I had to say for myself.

Ok not actually the order my post was in but whatever, it was in reference to what you said about hell, the what do you have to say for yourself was in reference to what I found offensive in your post. This paragraph answers neither.

the operative phrase in your sentence, was 'I have ever met'. - Unfortunately, more facts:
1. in the 1970's while in Nursing school, they posted our rotation thru their 'abortion-clinic'. On seeing that, I fainted, and on awakening screamed: 'oh my God, 'Medicine' is related to the 'Mafia=murder-for-hire'. - I was the only student who said: My soul is not for sale; iow I will never participate in such crimes-against-humanity.
2. in the 1980's, docs tried to abort my own daughter, who they insisted be born dead, or horribly deformed, and permanently on life-support. - This precious child was born perfectly-formed, and functioning with a 10/10 Apgar score; and homeschooled, she graduated from college with honors at age 17
This further in response, for you asking what I had to say for myself.
3. via the www. you can get numerous related facts.

and how does this translate to atheists actually advocating abortion? And what does our theological stance have anything to do with our stance on abortions? I didn't say some weren't pro-choice, but it's not like "Hey, four out of five atheists recommend you abort your baby regardless of your situation, 'cause abortions are fun" Not, that doesn't happen, and frankly it's insulting that you should insinuate it.

Unfortunately, in 1939 the Nazis. Before their concentration-camps, their 'euthanasia programme' in various specialized medicine departments: >70,000 psychiatric patients fell victim: gassed or poisoned. AND now in Montana, Oregon and Washington, as in those states euthanasia, or 'doctor-assisted suicide' as they like to call those killings, are practiced too. - Way too many vulnerable people's lives are innocently snuffed out.

Good gracious, Nazi euthanasia programs have nothing to do with doctor assisted suicide, these are people who are in pain, who have terminal illness anyway, and who want to go, it is not common practice, it is not inhumane, they are not forced into it.

Surely, that's no reason or excuse to put other people thru hell(s) of FORCEd abortions, and/or euthanasia; do you agree?

What are you on about? None of it is forced! And more importantly what in the world does any of this have to do with atheists!?!

Particularly, since GOD had nothing to do with either shameful sin.
Agreed!, the degree to which FORCEd abortions, and/or euthanasia IS just blatantly offensive, is staggering. - Good for you!

It's blatantly offensive that you attribute these things to atheists.

, that you have enough of your soul and mind intact, to find those abhorrent murders, mind-boggling. - There's much you can do, with other young people, to slow those monstrosities. - This would be another thing you can say for yourself.

What, atheists generally have shredded souls to you? What I find mind boggling is that you still don't realize how offensive you're being.

 

[Cabal]

I find it quite odd that some people can come onto a board and flatout accuse an entire group of people of genocide and then when called on their generalisation get all defensive.

If you can't take it, don't dish it out.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

Ah good, Sk8er's back.

Sk8er, did you get my last?

 

[EnemyPartyII]

Any Scientist can explain cause and effect.
What "caused" the cosmos to come into being?
The end result is always equal in size and energy to the initial input.

So what is equal to an infinite amount of space, time, matter and organization? There must have been an equal initial input.
Any Scientist will tell testify in court to that.
Science proves God is.

No, science "proves" that the universe started due to a truly massive imput of energy.

That you think God was responsible is your own assumption, it is NOT scientifically valid to say so.

 

[sk8Joyful]

flatout accuse an entire group of people of genocide, and then when called on their generalisation get all defensive.

If you can't take it, don't dish it out.

Right back: 'don't dish it out.' (the intentional taking of offense).

Upwards of a handful of atheists have spent days in threads, dishing out one personal insult after another. - Because I refuse to join you, in dishing it back; my m.o. is simply to come back with more personal, and general LIFE-empowering, & LIFE-enriching examples, honestly stated; as also mirrored by many other PRO-life people.

Do remember: other seekers will read here, and some, from 'LIFE-empowering and LIFE-enriching examples honestly stated', will convert, and be saved... PRAISE God!

 

[Wedjat]

So instead of apologizing to atheists, you berate another member for not being as kind and non-insulting as you.

 

[sk8Joyful]

Ah good, Sk8er's back.

Sk8er, did you get my last?

I have told you before, that 'Sk8er' is not either my username, nor my real name. - Address me either with 1 of my 'namesake=sk8Joyful', or Annie. When you bring yourself to exercising the basic respect others find easy, perhaps I will respond to you. Good day!

 

[EnemyPartyII]

I have told you before, that 'Sk8er' is not either my username, nor my real name. - Address me either with 1 of my 'namesake=sk8Joyful', or Annie. When you bring yourself to exercising the basic respect others find easy, perhaps I will respond to you. Good day!

Ok, Annie *smiles*

did you get my last?

Can you please show me any scientifically valid data to support your claims about prayer being a more effective means of healthcare than modern medicine? I would love to see it, since I'm a nurse, I would love to learn more efficient and effective ways of helping my patients.

 

[uberd00b]

When you bring yourself to exercising the basic respect others find easy, perhaps I will respond to you. Good day!

New irony meters ahoy.

It astounds me how those commanded not to bear false witness do so with such regularity. Your comments about atheism show nothing but your ignorance of atheism, as I think people have been trying to point out to you.