Does 'Goddidit' constitute an explanation?

[Naraoia]

Now that was real cute.

"Cute" isn't an adjective they often use in connection with me

I was citing a fact, you're citing an exception to that fact.

You were citing something as if it was a fact.

I was recently written a prescription for Potassium and didn't get it filled, choosing to eat bananas instead.

Ah, a single anecdotal story in support of a general "fact". How do you know your story isn't an exception? I wouldn't be surprised if this was a highly variable phenomenon, and many GPs would in fact advise you to eat more of X instead of automatically prescribing a supplement.

There's also the counterexample of mood and anxiety disorders, where cognitive behavioural therapy (in essence, positive thinking) is a widely used and even preferred alternative to drugs. Sometimes it works better than drugs. Sometimes it doesn't work.

We could also debate whether the prescription habits of your average GP have any relevance to science.

 

[AV1611VET]

We could also debate whether the prescription habits of your average GP have any relevance to science.

No, thanks.

I'll stick with my point.

Using a dog in Ghost Hunters is like me eating bananas instead of taking Potassium pills.

 

[sandwiches]

No, thanks.

I'll stick with my point.

Using a dog in Ghost Hunters is like me eating bananas instead of taking Potassium pills.

So, what fruit cures hepatitis, again?

 

[The Penitent Man]

Not right at that moment, but I daresay they've been in their fair share of foxholes. The point, of course, is that there are atheists in foxholes, despite what the adage claims.

Yes, I'm sure there are. And I would never question the bravery or nobility it takes to lay down one's life for others. That is a very Christ-like thing to do.

 

[sandwiches]

Yes, I'm sure there are. And I would never question the bravery or nobility it takes to lay down one's life for others. That is a very Christ-like thing to do.

It's also a very Spock-like thing to do, despite his emotionless logic. If only one could be even just a tenth as human as Spock was.

 

[Skaloop]

It's also a very Spock-like thing to do, despite his emotionless logic. If only one could be even just a tenth as human as Spock was.

Hmmmmm, Spock. Half human. Sacrificed himself to save others. Was resurrected. Sounds familiar...

Which would make Sarek God, and he mind-melded with Picard which would give Picard God's knowledge, essentially making Picard God.

And that should settle the Picard v. Kirk debate.

 

[Naraoia]

And AV elegantly(?) sidesteps our points once again.

 

[sandwiches]

And AV elegantly(?) sidesteps our points once again.

I'd argue that it wasn't so elegant.

 

[Skaloop]

No, thanks.

I'll stick with my point.

Using a dog in Ghost Hunters is like me eating bananas instead of taking Potassium pills.

Except we know that bananas are a source of potassium. We don't know that dogs can detect ghosts. Even if they can, they can't tell us anything about the ghost or what they are sensing (cold? EM fluctuations? high-pitched sound?), only that there is one present. That's what the machines are needed for.

(ETA: I don't believe dogs can sense ghosts, machines can sense ghosts, that the Ghost Hunters folks are actually discovering any ghosts, or that ghosts exist. But if they did, then see above.)

 

[AV1611VET]

Except we know that bananas are a source of potassium. We don't know that dogs can detect ghosts. Even if they can, they can't tell us anything about the ghost or what they are sensing (cold? EM fluctuations? high-pitched sound?), only that there is one present. That's what the machines are needed for.

(ETA: I don't believe dogs can sense ghosts, machines can sense ghosts, that the Ghost Hunters folks are actually discovering any ghosts, or that ghosts exist. But if they did, then see above.)

Did you overlook this post?

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They are running around acting like their machines are detecting something, and the dog says otherwise.

So in order to lend credence to their machines and look like they're really seeing something, they don't use the dogs, who would expose their myopic science.

 

[sandwiches]

So in order to lend credence to their machines and look like they're really seeing something, they don't use the dogs, who would expose their myopic science.

I don't think I'd call their feelings, chills, and thoughts during "ghost hunting" scientific by any standard.

 

[AV1611VET]

I don't think I'd call their feelings, chills, and thoughts during "ghost hunting" scientific by any standard.

Neither would I.

That's why they take the machines along, to make it look scientific.

 

[Skaloop]

Did you overlook this post?

53

They are running around acting like their machines are detecting something, and the dog says otherwise.

So in order to lend credence to their machines and look like they're really seeing something, they don't use the dogs, who would expose their myopic science.

It's not science, it's entertainment. At least, that's what it's meant to be. It's sci-fi wrapped up in a flimsy cloak of realism.


You're right, though, in that they use machines just to make it look good. Can't visually show what a dog sees (or doesn't see), but throw on some night-vision goggles and the audience can see for themselves!!

 

[sandwiches]

Neither would I.

That's why they take the machines along, to make it look scientific.

It's sad how many people fall for their theatrics thinking that if it "looks scientific," it must be true. I guess this is what we've seen from the old "uniform" experiment. Where people are more willing to follow, believe, and obey people who look like they're in a position of authority such as a policeman in uniform, scientist in a lab coat, priest in robes, etc.

 

[ReverendDG]

Neither would I.

That's why they take the machines along, to make it look scientific.

no one except people who believe ghosts think they are scientific anyway.

i believe real scientists have tested the psychological influences of the concepts of ghosts and hauntings before though.
namely they tested the very fact of what being told that ghosts haunt a place does to people.
the test was go to a dark spooky place and have two different groups of people, one that has heard it was "haunted", one group that hasn't.

they found the one that heard about hauntings reported chills, feelings of ghostly contact and other things.
the group that didn't hear about ghosts did not.

what does that show? that ghosts are only there to people that believe in them, funny that.

 

[AV1611VET]

what does that show? that ghosts are only there to people that believe in them, funny that.

You can't think of another outcome?

Just: "ghosts are only there to people that believe in them"?

Thank you --- this post confirms what I've been saying all along --- that higher academia teaches anti-Biblical propaganda as fact.

Did these two groups go into the same house at the same time?

Has it occurred to you that the group that was told the house was haunted, would be more receptive to these visitors because their minds are "beaconing"?

Look at it from a ghost's perspective (yes, you can, because angels are persons too).

Look at it from a ghost's perspective.

Assume you are standing outside a house that is occupied by students who are conditioned that their house is not haunted.

The house next to it is occupied by students who are conditioned to believe that their house is haunted.

Which house are you more likely to visit?

People don't realize that when they play with Ouija Boards and D&D and other stuff, that they are actually beaconing the "underworld" and extending open invitations.

And if it wasn't for the dispensation we live in (Grace), they would probably be accepting those invitations more often than they do; but the Holy Ghost, Who is now the primary active Member of the Godhead, keeps their activities in check.

 

[hangback]

Voodoo only works on people who believe in Voodoo, strange that, God on works on people who believe there is a God, strange that.
AV1611VET, take a Muslim or a Buddist into your church and see what effect it has on them, none because to them it's just another building, a God will not be present for them, strange that.
Like ghosts religion is all in the mind.

 

[AV1611VET]

Voodoo only works on people who believe in Voodoo...

Then you don't know real Voodoo.

They can call down rain and drown you in a gullywasher before you can get back to your hut.

 

[hangback]

Voodoo only works on people who believe in Voodoo, strange that, God only works on people who believe there is a God, strange that.
Like ghosts religion is all in the mind.

Then you don't know real Voodoo.

They can call down rain and drown you in a gullywasher before you can get back to your hut.

You picked out the Voodoo bit how about the God bit?

By the by, is there anything you won't believe? (apart from science that is)

 

[Wiccan_Child]

Voodoo only works on people who believe in Voodoo, strange that, God on works on people who believe there is a God, strange that.
AV1611VET, take a Muslim or a Buddist into your church and see what effect it has on them, none because to them it's just another building, a God will not be present for them, strange that.
Like ghosts religion is all in the mind.

Says the self-professed Christian.

Perhaps it's time to change your faith icon now, cons- I mean, hangback?