Is blind, untested faith a virture?
Or does God more admire the man who ponders His Greatness and improves his faith by wisdom?
Or does God more admire the man who ponders His Greatness and improves his faith by wisdom?
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Does God want us to be smart?
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Jesus responded to this question better than anybody else ever could, so here is His answer for you:
Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed. John 20:29
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Faith is something to which you add virtue:
"And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge; And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness; And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity." 2 Peter 1:5-7 (KJV)
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Yes He does. Not cerebral smart but heart smart! Cerebral smart is of man, carnal. Heart smart is of God, Spiritual !
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God does not expect blind faith. Creation testifies of Him, their is evidence all around us to examine. He provides ways to confirm essentials.
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The Puritans envisions a beautiful relationship where the mind (intellect) and heart (affect) danced in harmony with each other.
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that seems to suggest that if someone is intelligent, they are a worse off christian than if your an out and out idiot, and a christian.
that seems a bit odd.
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[FONT="]The mind is a good thing when ruled by the heart. If it overrides the heart it can only promote pride! Remember, Love is the goal![/FONT]
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Yes, and he is the only source of Spiritual wisdom. Man's wisdom is foolishness!
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oh really?
what does the bible have to say about the heart?
It's deceitful, wicked, corrupt.
If we were all lead around by our heart, we'd be...
well, like we are now. War, poverty, crime.
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Maybe the Bible supports both ideas, just so long as both are founded on Love.
You can blindly believe all that you are told about God, and let the knowledge come to you as it will and still love others.
You can question your faith, seeking for deeper truth passionately, and love others. I think God has given us this choice according to our different personalities.
Amazingly enough I would prefer to blindly believe, but God keeps on leading me into waters where I have to begin asking questions about my faith, and what I believe. So perhaps God means for me to be a determined and passionate seeker.
You can blindly believe all that you are told about God, and let the knowledge come to you as it will and still love others.
You can question your faith, seeking for deeper truth passionately, and love others. I think God has given us this choice according to our different personalities.
Amazingly enough I would prefer to blindly believe, but God keeps on leading me into waters where I have to begin asking questions about my faith, and what I believe. So perhaps God means for me to be a determined and passionate seeker.
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Really, that Old Testament verse refers to the cerebral part of man. Many, many words in the Bible are spelled the same but have very different meanings. Love, know, rock, sin, heart and many others have (at the least) dual meanings! "The heart in Scripture is variously used, sometimes for the mind and understanding, sometimes for the will, sometimes for the affections, sometimes for the conscience, sometimes for the whole soul".
"Soul" in Hebrew can never be rendered by "heart"
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Mat 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
1Th 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
We need to prove all things because there will be many preachers who will be preaching lies and we need to prove what they are saying from the word of God before we believe it. But there are some things that cannot be proven like the existence of God in terms of how he was born and so on. We need to have faith about these things.
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So then, you are stating that when they are saying the Heart is corrupt, they really mean the mind is corrupt?
I don't think so myself... since they speak on the mind of man in scripture as well. Unless of course, you are going to state that the translators buggered that up.
Let's take it to a more generic example though. I KNOW (cerebral) that my heart is corrupt. When I feel the emotions of Jealousy, anger, hatred, bitterness, lust, etc.. etc... etc... it is not a thought process. It is an emotional response to deep seated corruption within me. the "heart" of the matter. My MIND is what tells me what is right and wrong (in conjunction with the conviction of the Holy Spirit. For if it was up to ME myself, without the HS, I would think the same things as my corrupt heart told me at all times!) Paul expounded on this. he KNEW the right thing to do, but did not do it. he KNEW the wrong thing to do, but did it anyways. Cerebrally, he was aware of the right and wrong, his heart led him elsewhere.
I hope it met your approval.Subscribing to see UB response.
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an interesting soundbite, but I'd prefer if we are to discuss, that we talk about what is on the thread, not what isn't.
If you want to post some backup to the "this doesn't really mean the heart" by all means do so, Bro!
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an interesting soundbite, but I'd prefer if we are to discuss, that we talk about what is on the thread, not what isn't.
If you want to post some backup to the "this doesn't really mean the heart" by all means do so, Bro!
I really expected an answer like that! Welcome back!
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