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Does God Need Your Permission in Order to Save You?

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That's a silly way to look at it, a play on words!

It's more like our will meets His will when we meet His condition.

So, He consults with the clay before He acts. Got it.
 
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So, He consults with the clay before He acts. Got it.
You are completely relying on justification to get you saved. Vessel’s used for vanity is followed by writing on the wall, lest you forget.
 
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Synergism.

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They carry there crosses, but I love their guitar playing
(despite the cigarette conspiracies lol)
 
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So, He consults with the clay before He acts. Got it.

He is calling for "whosoever will." If you are willing to meet the condition of repentance you will be accepted.

For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord will be saved. Rom. 10:13

Calvin overlooked these scriptures. They didn't fit with his obsession.
 
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God has told us "My thoughts are not your thoughts.". Therefore "if" is the closest we can ever come to determining what God's will encompasses. Anyone that thinks otherwise is sorely afflicted with hubris.
 
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He is calling for "whosoever will." If you are willing to meet the condition of repentance you will be accepted.

For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord will be saved. Rom. 10:13
Hello Charlie, as a Calvinist, I completely agree with you (well, to be fair, I would have also agreed with you about that if I was still an Arminian ;)).

My question is, how do you believe we get from................

Romans 3
9 We have already charged that both Jews and Greeks are all under sin;
10 as it is written,
“THERE IS NONE RIGHTEOUS, NOT EVEN ONE;
11 THERE IS NONE WHO UNDERSTANDS,
THERE IS NONE WHO SEEKS FOR GOD;
12 ALL HAVE TURNED ASIDE, TOGETHER THEY HAVE BECOME USELESS;
THERE IS NONE WHO DOES GOOD,
THERE IS NOT EVEN ONE.”

..............to "whosoever will", because the Apostle's words here make it sound like no "WHOSOEVERS" will be forthcoming anytime soon, well, unless something changes for some of them ;)

Thanks!

--David
 
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It's a simple question, which requires a simple, Yes or No, answer.
The Apostle Paul certainly did not give God permission to knock him off a horse and blind him however after Paul was restored he was saved by his belief. I think believing and receiving requires some degree of permission on our part. Paul could have rejected God by choice however he permitted God to take over his life. Permission implies consent so it could be a yes if though over carefully.
 
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The Apostle Paul certainly did not give God permission to knock him off a horse and blind him however after Paul was restored he was saved by his belief. I think believing and receiving requires some degree of permission on our part. Paul could have rejected God by choice however he permitted God to take over his life. Permission implies consent so it could be a yes if though over carefully.

Thanks for the reply.

Followup: Didn't the Apostle Paul reject Christ?
 
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