Does God Love Everybody?

[visionary]

First separate the sin from the sinner. God so loved the sinner, but hated the sin, that if He is unable to get them to separate from their sin, they will die in their sin. Does that change the fact that God loved the sinner but not the sin. Sin separates God from man. God sent His Only Begotten Son to help bridge the gap between between God and man. I don't know about you but if I love you enough to die for you, so that you may have a chance at living, then I would say that I loved you a whole bunch. Since God loves us that much, I think that we should be greatful for having such a loving Father and Son in Heaven who are willing to plan a way to bridge a gap rather than leaving us to die in our sins. We honestly deserve death for our deeds. Yet he still loves us, even the vilest of sinners. That is deep compassion, wooing upon the hearts of all men, in hopes of reconcilliation with Him, the Holy Spirit works to bring all to repentance. I would say that God, in all three forms, is going to an aweful lot of effort for us. Now the bigger question is will you give up your favorite sin for Him?

 

[Redemption]

God loves everybody the same with an inexpressible love for all men. Jesus Christ came to save the world and the whole world will be saved because that's the will of God. All men will become perfect glorious children of God after he is done making man in his image and likeness. God will be everything to everybody and all in all. His tabernacle is with men. All things will be made new. God's love has no bounds. He is love. Some people just need tougher love, aka the lake of fire flames of God's ever burning love will destroy the carnal minds, rebellious hearts and ultimately destroy death in men. Jesus Christ was made perfect through sufferings and so will everybody who gets cast into the lake of fire or humbly submits to the fire of God in their lifetime. God chastens[corrective punishment] every son whom he recieves as his child. The gospel of peace, love and joy unspeakable is Jesus Christ's sacrifice for the sins of man so that man can become perfect and glorious children in the image and likeness of God in heaven. At the end when the perfect kingdom is complete we will all rejoice loudly praising God for his glorious magnificence. No more corruption and no more death in God's creation. Only goodness and glory forever.

 

[john14_20]

We are all sinners saved by Grace. We were all sinners when we were given new life.

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There will be no one that God loves burning in Hell .

At last, something I can wholeheartedly agree with

 

[john14_20]

Does he send to hell those he loves? Of course. His love manifests as grief because it really is a tragedy.

So God is eternally unhappy?

 

[john14_20]

They might not now but they will.

Phillipians 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.


Glory to God

Will they confess freely that Jesus is Lord because they have seen Him in all His Glory - or will they be forced to say something they reject.

Like a Nazi holding a gun to the head of a Jew and forcing him to say "Hitler is the King"?

 

[Redemption]

God the Father could not get any glory if he forced all to confess Jesus is lord. This confession will be with great joy and humility.

Jesus Christ has already atoned for the sins of the whole world. He paid the price for the sins of the whole world, death. Only death could not hold him because he commited no sin. Unsaved people will be judged based on their works/deeds not on sins Jesus Christ already atoned for. Since all their works/deeds are evil they need to be punished in the lake of fire. God disciplines those he loves and punishes everyone he accepts as a son. All men will be glorious children of God because of the sacrificial act of Jesus Christ atoning for the sins of the whole world. All will be made alive in Christ.

 

[A Brethren IN CHRIST]

God the Father could not get any glory if he forced all to confess Jesus is lord. This confession will be with great joy and humility.

Jesus Christ has already atoned for the sins of the whole world. He paid the price for the sins of the whole world, death. Only death could not hold him because he commited no sin. Unsaved people will be judged based on their works/deeds not on sins Jesus Christ already atoned for. Since all their works/deeds are evil they need to be punished in the lake of fire. God disciplines those he loves and punishes everyone he accepts as a son. All men will be glorious children of God because of the sacrificial act of Jesus Christ atoning for the sins of the whole world. All will be made alive in Christ.

John 16:9 Of sin, because they believe not on me.

revelations 20:15 and whoever was not found in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire...

not everyone will be made alive in Christ

matt 20:16b for many are called, but few are chosen

 

[Redemption]

[NIV]1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.


[NIV]Romans 5:18-19 Consequently, just as the result of the one trespass was condemnation for all men, so also the result of one act of righteousness was justification that brings life for all men. For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.


[NIV]Romans 8:19 The creation waits in eager expectation for the sons of God[Elect] to be revealed. For the creation was subjected to frustration[vanity, corruption], not by its own choice, but by the will of the one[God] who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself will be liberated[saved] from its bondage to decay[corruption] and brought into the glorious freedom of the children of God.

 

[A Brethren IN CHRIST]

so who is going to the lake of fire?????

 

[cygnusx1]

Some think that because God doesn't save everybody then He cannot Love everyone.

Others think that because many are saved God loves all men the same.

Both of these views are error!

Love is many things.

 

[A Brethren IN CHRIST]

God so loved the world he sent His only begotten son to die on the cross for are sins.

john 16:9 of sin because they believe not on me.

only one sin not taken care of and this one is not an action but a thought process

 

[cygnusx1]

God so loved the world he sent His only begotten son to die on the cross for are sins.

john 16:9 of sin because they believe not on me.

only one sin not taken care of and this one is not an action but a thought process

we are commanded Not to Love the World.................
"if any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him" (1 John 2:15).

 

[Redemption]

If God doesn't love all men why did he die for them all then? Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down ones life for another. Christ layed down his life for all. Maybe Christ being titled the Savior Of The World is just a fancy phrase that sounded good when God inspired it in scripture instead of an absolute fact worthy of all acceptance. Maybe God is double minded. No, God does not partially love some people while loving others more. Personal favoritism is not righteous. [James 2:8-9] If you really keep the royal law found in scripture, "Love your neighbor as yourself," you are doing right. But if you show favoritism, you sin and are convicted by the law as lawbreakers. God is not a hypocrite by commanding us to love our neighbor as ourself, and to love our enemies while he himself breaks both commands. Christ died for the ungodly, his enemies and friends. How great could God's love be if it's so selective and conditional. The truth is God's love knows no bounds and he poured out his life in the son for us all. Love is many things and God does everything for good reason even judgment.

Judgement day is coming for the lawless. They will be punished for their evil works/deeds but not sins because Christ already paid that penalty/punishment. Righteous judgement is punishing someone for the good of the person being punished, not punishing just to make matters worse. God disciplines those he loves and punishes everyone he accepts as a son. He must discipline everybody so they can share in his holiness. All men will be adopted sons of the Most High.

An everlasting hellfire torture chamber that lasts forever and ever is cruel, evil and of no benefit to people who would end up in such a rotten place. It's not scriptural at all. It's the worst doctrine of demons used to instill ungodly fear of God in the lives of those decieved by it. How could anyone be at peace if most the world around them is headed to such a place let alone rejoice and sing songs to such a God. Maybe guys should hold people at gun point and force them to accept Christ to keep such souls from this horrid place. That would be more loving then standing by while they perish saving your own neck. That's foolishness. It's not the true gospel and it's a destructive heresy and blasphemy of the Most High. The gospel is supposed to be good news for all people not condemning the world for all eternity. Christ did not come into the world to condemn it, but save it.

Everlasting annihilation is unscriptural also. Thanks be to God that Christ paid the penalty for sin already so nobody would face this. Christ took away the sin of the whole world. He knew no sin so death could not hold him justly. His sacrifice justifies everybody to be resurrected back to life because he paid the penalty for sin. Limited atonement is also false because then the lost/non elect would have no resurrection at all and God would not be justified if he resurrected them to any judgement. Death would have the legal prescedant to hold people unatoned for forever because death is the penalty for sin. Christ was resurrected because death could not hold him. He took away the sin of the world so death cannot hold anybody forever because their sin has been taken away and atoned for forever. When Christ said it is finished he meant it.

God is not going to punish the wicked for sin or hold it against them because Christ paid that penalty already. Christ took upon himself the sin of the whole world and swallowed it up by his death and resurrection. The wicked will be punished/disciplined for bad deeds and works of the flesh still retained in them because they did not accept Christ in life and crucify themselves with Christ to become dead to sin completely. If you don't overcome sin you will be hurt of the second death and that goes for any and everybody. The wood, hay, and stubble carnality works of the flesh must be burned out of them via the lake of fire[second death] if they are to share in the holiness of God and live in the glory of heaven. The second death is the death or you can say everlasting destruction of death and the carnal mind retained in those who must go through the lake of fire. The judgment of God is absolutely great for those who God must pass judgement on. Judgement unto victory. All will be made alive in Christ and be glorious children of the Most High. That's the truth.

 

[visionary]

Amen

 

[goodnews]

Not if the Bible is true, because it plainly states God hates all sinners.

The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity. (Ps 5:5)

The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth. (Ps 11:5)

These two verses do not teach the popular myth "God hates the sin, but loves the sinner". God will cast all sinners into the lake of fire. (Rev. 21:8)

Are you a believer of this God? Do you know Him? Love Him?

James

Does God's Word contradict itself? If not then we need to take into consideration all the other verses about God's character before we assume that God LITERALLY hates sinners.

I do agree that God hates the sin and the source of sin, the CARNAL NATURE. The fact is however that God himself subjected his entire creation to the carnal nature so that they could not resist sin. Now if God has hatred for his own creation (mankind) then he only has himself to blame as he is the orgin of ALL.

Colossians 1:16-17 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

now back to this whole hating sinners business.

God sure has a funny way of hating those who sin:

1 Timothy 1:15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

John 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

Luke 7:37-43 And, behold, a woman in the city, which was a sinner, when she knew that Jesus sat at meat in the Pharisee's house, brought an alabaster box of ointment, And stood at his feet behind him weeping, and began to wash his feet with tears, and did wipe them with the hairs of her head, and kissed his feet, and anointed them with the ointment. Now when the Pharisee which had bidden him saw it, he spake within himself, saying, This man, if he were a prophet, would have known who and what manner of woman this is that toucheth him: for she is a sinner. And Jesus answering said unto him, Simon, I have somewhat to say unto thee. And he saith, Master, say on. There was a certain creditor which had two debtors: the one owed five hundred pence, and the other fifty. And when they had nothing to pay, he frankly forgave them both. Tell me therefore, which of them will love him most? Simon answered and said, I suppose that he, to whom he forgave most. And he said unto him, Thou hast rightly judged.

Luke 15:7 I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.

Luke 18:13-14 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner. I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

Romans 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

 

[cygnusx1]

If I say I love my wife more than other women , and my children more than other children no-one murmurs , so why should it be such a surprise if God loves His people (no man hates his own body) more than any other .


Did God not show a High degree of Love , Favour and Goodness to the Jews ?

what about the others ?

 

[A Brethren IN CHRIST]

we are commanded Not to Love the World.................
"if any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him" (1 John 2:15).

yes this is true but

what is your point?