Does God Accept Imperfect Obedience?

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Dartman said:
That would be a lack of works, and he would get nothing. (2 Peter 2:20-22)

Correct. Again, that is works. Without it, there is NO way to win the jackpot. Just because you have a ticket, doesn't mean you have EARNED the prize. Even if you WIN the prize, you haven't EARNED it, you have merely met the requirements.

Now, do you still have questions about the difference between "earning" and "works"?
Who me? You won't see me neglecting good works.
That doesn't answer my question.
 
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And your response doesn't question my answer.
My question is from Post # 249, and I answered your question in that post. Then I asked you;
" .. do you still have questions about the difference between "earning" and "works"?"
 
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Genesis 6:9 This is the account of Noah and his family. Noah was a righteous man, blameless among the people of his time, and he walked faithfully with God

Luke 1:6 And they were both righteous before God, walking blamelessly in all the commandments and statutes of the Lord.

There are a number of instances like the above where Bible clearly describes certain people as being righteous, so it is completely false that there is no one who is righteous. Furthermore, throughout Proverbs and Psalms, they frequently refer to a category of people called "the righteous" and it wouldn't make any sense if they were talking about a category to which no one belonged. Rather, Romans 3:11 is quoting from Psalms 14:1-3 and Psalms 53:1-3, both of which are referring to fools who say that there is no God, none of which are righteous, not even one.

I beg to differ. One thing to remember the people of God om the OT were saved by Faith in God, as it is in the NT. By the Grace of God is in both the OT and NT. But to understand both Romans 3 & Psalms 14, I will quote them here.

Psalms 14

1The fool says in his heart,

“There is no God.”

They are corrupt, their deeds are vile;

there is no one who does good.

2The Lord looks down from heaven

on all mankind

to see if there are any who understand,

any who seek God.

3All have turned away, all have become corrupt;​

there is no one who does good,

not even one.​

4Do all these evildoers know nothing?

They devour my people as though eating bread;

they never call on the Lord.

5But there they are, overwhelmed with dread,

for God is present in the company of the righteous.

6You evildoers frustrate the plans of the poor,

but the Lord is their refuge.

7Oh, that salvation for Israel would come out of Zion!

When the Lord restores his people,

let Jacob rejoice and Israel be glad!​

God's has a chosen people, which includes Noah. God will restore them through His Grace. Now let's read Romans 3,


God’s Faithfulness

1What advantage, then, is there in being a Jew, or what value is there in circumcision? 2Much in every way! First of all, the Jews have been entrusted with the very words of God.

3What if some were unfaithful? Will their unfaithfulness nullify God’s faithfulness? 4Not at all! Let God be true, and every human being a liar. As it is written:

“So that you may be proved right when you speak

and prevail when you judge.”a

5But if our unrighteousness brings out God’s righteousness more clearly, what shall we say? That God is unjust in bringing his wrath on us? (I am using a human argument.) 6Certainly not! If that were so, how could God judge the world? 7Someone might argue, “If my falsehood enhances God’s truthfulness and so increases his glory, why am I still condemned as a sinner?” 8Why not say—as some slanderously claim that we say—“Let us do evil that good may result”? Their condemnation is just!

No One Is Righteous

9What shall we conclude then? Do we have any advantage? Not at all! For we have already made the charge that Jews and Gentiles alike are all under the power of sin. 10As it is written:

“There is no one righteous, not even one;

11there is no one who understands;

there is no one who seeks God.

12All have turned away,

they have together become worthless;

there is no one who does good,

not even one.”

13“Their throats are open graves;

their tongues practice deceit.”

“The poison of vipers is on their lips.”

14“Their mouths are full of cursing and bitterness.”

15“Their feet are swift to shed blood;

16ruin and misery mark their ways,

17and the way of peace they do not know.”

18“There is no fear of God before their eyes.”​

19Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God. 20Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God’s sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin.
So was Noah declared righteous in God's sight by the works of the Law. Is He, or any else exempt from this? Just saying to get your clarification, because I do not want to caricature your position. Why does Paul make such a statement?

Righteousness Through Faith


21But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it22the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction: 23for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, 25whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God’s righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins. 26It was to show his righteousness at the present time, so that he might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.

27Then what becomes of our boasting? It is excluded. By what kind of law? By a law of works? No, but by the law of faith. 28For we hold that one is justified by faith apart from works of the law. 29Or is God the God of Jews only? Is he not the God of Gentiles also? Yes, of Gentiles also, 30since God is one—who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith. 31Do we then overthrow the law by this faith? By no means! On the contrary, we uphold the law.
According to Deuteronomy 30:15-20, the Law brings life and a blessing for obedience and death and a curse for disobedience, so those among Adam's progeny who are under the curse of the Law are just those who practice disobedience to it.

I am getting two alarming things here. 1) You are suggesting that those among Adam's progeny are under the curse of the Law because they practice disobedience! All of Adam's progeny are under the curse of the Law, because of the ONE ACT trespass of the ONE MAN! Adam's progeny are under condemnation and the curse of the Law; because 'ALL' have sinned, and have fallen short to the glory of God. Paul doesn't say, except a few who are righteous. He says ALL have sinned against God.
Now that we have been set free from the curse of the Law, we have been set free from living in disobedience to it and are now free to enjoy the blessing of the Law by living in obedience to it by grace through faith.

I agree with this. Question, how have we been set free of the curse of the Law?
God is not a cruel Father, so He did not give the Law in order put His people under a curse,
I agree that God is not a cruel Father. God is a Gracious Loving Father who has sacrificed himself to save His children from the curse of the Law, by becoming a curse for us!

God is also Holy, Holy, Holy! He is white hot holiness! He is a consuming fire! We cannot see him because we instantly die. Like the person who tried to caught the Ark of the Covenant from touching the ground with His hand. What happened to him?

Yes the Law was given for us to obey, to be holy. But the first Adam breach God's covenant and bought death and condemnation. Its not God who is the problem here Soyeong , the problem is sin; us! Paul says this in relation to the Law and sinners:

The Law and Sin

7What shall we say, then? Is the law sinful? Certainly not! Nevertheless, I would not have known what sin was had it not been for the law. For I would not have known what coveting really was if the law had not said, “You shall not covet.”b 8But sin, seizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment, produced in me every kind of coveting. For apart from the law, sin was dead. 9Once I was alive apart from the law; but when the commandment came, sin sprang to life and I died. 10I found that the very commandment that was intended to bring life actually brought death. 11For sin, seizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment, deceived me, and through the commandment put me to death. 12So then, the law is holy, and the commandment is holy, righteous and good.
So what relation does the Law have with sinners, now? To make us conscience of sin. Therefore we now know that we cannot fulfill the Law's requirements, because of sin. The Law only brings death to sinners! But the Law also points us to another, who has come not to abolish the Law, but to fulfill it for us!

23Before the coming of this faith, we were held in custody under the law, locked up until the faith that was to come would be revealed. 24So the law was our guardian until Christ came that we might be justified by faith. 25Now that this faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian.

The Law reminds us of our sins before God. And the need of a Savior. The Law reminds the sinner who believes of the Promise God made with Abraham, of a Promised Seed who will save sinners from the curse of the Law, through His Perfect Obedience to the Law for us!
He said that what He commanded was for His people's own good (Deuteronomy 6:24, Deuteronomy 10:13), and the intention is for us to choose life. God is not a cruel Father, so He did not free the Israelites out of bondage in Egypt in order to put them back under bondage to His Law, but rather it is for freedom that God sets us free (Galatians 5:1). God's Law is a law of freedom (Psalms 119:45, James 1:25), while it is sin in transgression of God's Law that puts us into bondage. It does not make any sense to say that we need to be set free from follow God's instructions for how to live for Him in order to be set free to live for Him. The way our faith upholds the Mosaic Law is by leading us to live in obedience to it.

So told me what happened, when God gave the commandments to the Israelites, and they swore all of this we will do. Over & over the people have failed God. To do what is good, by following His statues and commandments. God is not cruel, but Gracious. The Law was a guardian until Christ came that we might be justified by Faith.

As I said before the Law reminds sinners of their sins before a Holy God. And a need of a Savior; of the Promised Seed that God Promised He will sent. This is not cruel, but Gracious! God could have left us to our doom, because of what we did. But people are quick to judge God for our doing! Sin is a serious thing. But people down play it, thinking God could just let it go.

Everyone knew what was on the table in the Garden Temple. And knew about the consequences for obeying and disobeying God's commandments. So its our fault not God's! Right after God found out what Adam did, God promised Adam & Eve that He will send a Seed to save them!
Pleroo: to fulfil, i.e. to cause God's will (as made known in the law) to be obeyed as it should be, and God's promises (given through the prophets) to receive fulfilment

In Matthew 5:17-19, Jesus said that he came to fulfill the Law and then proceeded to fulfill it six times by causing God's will as made known in the Law to be obeyed as it should be. Furthermore, Galatians 5:14 says that loving your neighbor fulfills the entire Law, so everyone since Moses who has loved their neighbor has fulfilled the entire law, meaning that it does not refer to something unique that Jesus did, such as perfectly obeying the Law. Likewise, Galatians 6:2 says that bearing one another's burdens fulfills the Law of Christ, which is obeying it as it should be obeyed. In addition, Romans 15:18-19 says that Paul fulfilled the Gospel, which he did by causing it to be fully obeyed in word and in deed as it should be obeyed.

Galatians states that a person who does the Law has to do the whole Law, and live it; meaning their entire life, without a single blemish. Not just for a week, or a month, or a year, then its okay to sin, because you Loved your neighbor and that fulfilled the entire Law, really? Is that what you think it means? So then if I love my neighbor once. I have fulfilled the Law entirely, so I can go on to sin? Or do I need to live the Law for the rest of my life

In Romans 3:27, Paul spoke about two different laws: one of faith and one of works. In Galatians 3:10-12 it says that works of the law are not of faith, so man-made laws are not of faith, while in Matthew 23:23, Jesus said that faith is one of the weightier aspects of God's Law, so God's Law is of faith, and obedience to God's Law is straightforwardly about having faith in God that His commands are for our own good and faith in Him to guide us in how to rightly live in accordance with His holiness, righteousness, and goodness. The one and only way that there has ever been to become justified is by faith, so we are justified by faith apart from man-made works of law, contrary to the position of the Pharisees. Just as the Jews have always been justified by faith, so are the Gentiles, and because Jews were never required to become circumcised in order to become saved, neither are the Gentiles, again contrary to the man-made requirement of the Pharisees (Acts 15:1). We do not overthrow the Mosaic Law by faith, but rather by faith we are required to live in obedience to it.

I beg to differ on some points here. Sinners cannot offer anything to God in exchange for His favor toward our Salvation. We are 'ALREADY' condemned under the CURSE of the Law. Justification of the sinners before a Holy God, and Sanctification of the believer are distinct, but not separated. A sinner needs to be reconciled to God first; made right with God first; propitiated before God first; be adopted by God first, before the sinner can live to God.

The sinner needs to be made alive in Christ by the Holy Spirit, to live to God. And all this 'DOING' to the sinner, is the Gracious Loving work of God done in Christ for us! This is the good news. Then and only then can we follow Christ because 'HE' freed us from the bondage of the Law. You talk about God's Law. The sinner cannot keep any of them. That's why Christ became a CURSE for us!

We need new hearts and minds. We are dead in trespasses and sins. There is nothing we can do to save ourselves. Even our evangelical obedience does not save us!

4But when the kindness and love of God our Savior appeared, 5he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit, 6whom he poured out on us generously through Jesus Christ our Savior, 7so that, having been justified by his grace,

Am I denying the good works of the believer? No! We need to know that Salvation is of the Lord (Jonah 2:9).

In our Salvation God Promised that He will save us! This is His solid oath to Adam & Eve and Abraham.

Ezekiel 36:26I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. 27And I will put my Spirit in you and move you to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws.

This is our assurance, our peace with God, peace of conscience. That God will finish what He started! Jesus is the Author and Finisher of our Faith!

1 Cor. 4:7 What do you have that you did not receive? And if you did receive it, why do you boast as though you did not?

A Priest was asked long ago, Father are we saved by Faith or by works? Neither, the Father replied, but by the sheer Mercy of God!
 
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Soyeong said:
Genesis 6:9 This is the account of Noah and his family. Noah was a righteous man, blameless among the people of his time, and he walked faithfully with God

Luke 1:6 And they were both righteous before God, walking blamelessly in all the commandments and statutes of the Lord.

There are a number of instances like the above where Bible clearly describes certain people as being righteous, so it is completely false that there is no one who is righteous. Furthermore, throughout Proverbs and Psalms, they frequently refer to a category of people called "the righteous" and it wouldn't make any sense if they were talking about a category to which no one belonged. Rather, Romans 3:11 is quoting from Psalms 14:1-3 and Psalms 53:1-3, both of which are referring to fools who say that there is no God, none of which are righteous, not even one.
I beg to differ. One thing to remember the people of God om the OT were saved by Faith in God, as it is in the NT. By the Grace of God is in both the OT and NT.
You are both right, in a way.
The only human to live without sin was Jesus.
Those others called righteous are repentant sinners.
Romans 4:8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.
 
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I beg to differ. One thing to remember the people of God om the OT were saved by Faith in God, as it is in the NT. By the Grace of God is in both the OT and NT. But to understand both Romans 3 & Psalms 14, I will quote them here.

Psalms 14

1The fool says in his heart,

“There is no God.”

They are corrupt, their deeds are vile;

there is no one who does good.

2The Lord looks down from heaven

on all mankind

to see if there are any who understand,

any who seek God.

3All have turned away, all have become corrupt;​

there is no one who does good,

not even one.​

4Do all these evildoers know nothing?

They devour my people as though eating bread;

they never call on the Lord.

5But there they are, overwhelmed with dread,

for God is present in the company of the righteous.

6You evildoers frustrate the plans of the poor,

but the Lord is their refuge.

7Oh, that salvation for Israel would come out of Zion!

When the Lord restores his people,

let Jacob rejoice and Israel be glad!​

God's has a chosen people, which includes Noah. God will restore them through His Grace. Now let's read Romans 3,


God’s Faithfulness

1What advantage, then, is there in being a Jew, or what value is there in circumcision? 2Much in every way! First of all, the Jews have been entrusted with the very words of God.

3What if some were unfaithful? Will their unfaithfulness nullify God’s faithfulness? 4Not at all! Let God be true, and every human being a liar. As it is written:

“So that you may be proved right when you speak

and prevail when you judge.”a

5But if our unrighteousness brings out God’s righteousness more clearly, what shall we say? That God is unjust in bringing his wrath on us? (I am using a human argument.) 6Certainly not! If that were so, how could God judge the world? 7Someone might argue, “If my falsehood enhances God’s truthfulness and so increases his glory, why am I still condemned as a sinner?” 8Why not say—as some slanderously claim that we say—“Let us do evil that good may result”? Their condemnation is just!

No One Is Righteous

9What shall we conclude then? Do we have any advantage? Not at all! For we have already made the charge that Jews and Gentiles alike are all under the power of sin. 10As it is written:

“There is no one righteous, not even one;

11there is no one who understands;

there is no one who seeks God.

12All have turned away,

they have together become worthless;

there is no one who does good,

not even one.”

13“Their throats are open graves;

their tongues practice deceit.”

“The poison of vipers is on their lips.”

14“Their mouths are full of cursing and bitterness.”

15“Their feet are swift to shed blood;

16ruin and misery mark their ways,

17and the way of peace they do not know.”

18“There is no fear of God before their eyes.”​

19Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God. 20Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God’s sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin.
So was Noah declared righteous in God's sight by the works of the Law. Is He, or any else exempt from this? Just saying to get your clarification, because I do not want to caricature your position. Why does Paul make such a statement?

These verses describe our salvation and how God shows his grace to us:

Psalms 119:29 Put false ways far from me and graciously teach me your law!

Titus 2:11 For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people, 12 training us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright, and godly lives in the present age, 13 waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ, 14 who gave himself for us to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people for his own possession who are zealous for good works.

God's Law was given to instruct us how to do what is holy, righteous, and good (Romans 7:12), so Titus 2:11-14 is essentially saying that our salvation involves being trained by grace to obey God's Law, and this is also how God showed His grace to David. So when Genesis 6:8 says that Noah found grace in the eyes of God, it is saying that God taught him to obey His Law and when Genesis 6:9 says that Noah was a righteous man, it is saying that Noah lived in obedience to those instructions by grace through faith.


Righteousness Through Faith


21But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it22the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction: 23for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, 25whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God’s righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins. 26It was to show his righteousness at the present time, so that he might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.

27Then what becomes of our boasting? It is excluded. By what kind of law? By a law of works? No, but by the law of faith. 28For we hold that one is justified by faith apart from works of the law. 29Or is God the God of Jews only? Is he not the God of Gentiles also? Yes, of Gentiles also, 30since God is one—who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith. 31Do we then overthrow the law by this faith? By no means! On the contrary, we uphold the law.


I am getting two alarming things here. 1) You are suggesting that those among Adam's progeny are under the curse of the Law because they practice disobedience! All of Adam's progeny are under the curse of the Law, because of the ONE ACT trespass of the ONE MAN! Adam's progeny are under condemnation and the curse of the Law; because 'ALL' have sinned, and have fallen short to the glory of God. Paul doesn't say, except a few who are righteous. He says ALL have sinned against God.

In Deuteronomy 30:11-15 “For this commandment that I command you today is not too hard for you, neither is it far off. 12 It is not in heaven, that you should say, ‘Who will ascend to heaven for us and bring it to us, that we may hear it and do it?’ 13 Neither is it beyond the sea, that you should say, ‘Who will go over the sea for us and bring it to us, that we may hear it and do it?’ 14 But the word is very near you. It is in your mouth and in your heart, so that you can do it. 15 “See, I have set before you today life and good, death and evil. 16 If you obey the commandments of the Lord your God that I command you today, by loving the Lord your God, by walking in his ways, and by keeping his commandments and his statutes and his rules, then you shall live and multiply, and the Lord your God will bless you in the land that you are entering to take possession of it. 17 But if your heart turns away, and you will not hear, but are drawn away to worship other gods and serve them, 18 I declare to you today, that you shall surely perish. You shall not live long in the land that you are going over the Jordan to enter and possess. 19 I call heaven and earth to witness against you today, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and curse. Therefore choose life, that you and your offspring may live, 20 loving the Lord your God, obeying his voice and holding fast to him, for he is your life and length of days, that you may dwell in the land that the Lord swore to your fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them.”

In these verses, it says that God's Law is not too difficult for us to obey and that only those who practice disobedience to the Law are under its curse, while those who practice obedience to it are under the blessing of the Law. Nowhere in the Bible does it say anything like that someone was doing a great job of obeying the law, but they sinned once and now that can't be justified by it and are under the curse of the law, but rather the consistent message from every single prophet up to and including Jesus was to repent from our sins in transgression of the Law, so the difference between whether we are under the curse or the blessing of the Law is not based upon whether we obey it perfectly, but whether we continue to practice repentance, and it is only through faith in Christ that we are granted repentance.

In Romans 5:12, it says that sin entered the world through the act of one man, not that the curse of the law entered the world through the act of one man. God's Law is not sin, but rather it reveals what sin is (Romans 7:7).

I agree with this. Question, how have we been set free of the curse of the Law?
I agree that God is not a cruel Father. God is a Gracious Loving Father who has sacrificed himself to save His children from the curse of the Law, by becoming a curse for us!

According to Titus 2:14, Christ did not give himself to free us from the curse of the Law, but to free us from all Lawlessness and to purify for himself a people of his own possession who are zealous for doing good works, and God's Law is again His instructions for how to do good works (2 Timothy 3:16-17). If God gave the Law in order to curse His children, then He is not a good Father, but rather He said that the Law was given for our good (Deuteronomy 6:24).



The Law and Sin
7What shall we say, then? Is the law sinful? Certainly not! Nevertheless, I would not have known what sin was had it not been for the law. For I would not have known what coveting really was if the law had not said, “You shall not covet.”b 8But sin, seizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment, produced in me every kind of coveting. For apart from the law, sin was dead. 9Once I was alive apart from the law; but when the commandment came, sin sprang to life and I died. 10I found that the very commandment that was intended to bring life actually brought death. 11For sin, seizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment, deceived me, and through the commandment put me to death. 12So then, the law is holy, and the commandment is holy, righteous and good.
So what relation does the Law have with sinners, now? To make us conscience of sin. Therefore we now know that we cannot fulfill the Law's requirements, because of sin. The Law only brings death to sinners! But the Law also points us to another, who has come not to abolish the Law, but to fulfill it for us!

From your reply, it seems like you thought Paul said that the Law is sin.


Before the coming of this faith, we were held in custody under the law, locked up until the faith that was to come would be revealed. 24So the law was our guardian until Christ came that we might be justified by faith. 25Now that this faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian.

The Law reminds us of our sins before God. And the need of a Savior. The Law reminds the sinner who believes of the Promise God made with Abraham, of a Promised Seed who will save sinners from the curse of the Law, through His Perfect Obedience to the Law for us!

While the Law certainly was given to point out our sins, the purpose of doing so was to lead us to repent and turn back to obedience the Law. The Law was given to instruct us how to act according to the attributes of God, His holiness, righteousness, goodness (Romans 7:12), justice, mercy, faithfulness (Matthew 23:23), and other fruits of the spirit (Exodus 34:6-7). God's eternal attributes did not change when the Law was given or when Jesus came, so neither did the way to act according to those attributes. Now that Christ has come, we have his example and his teaching to follow for how to obey God's Law, and now have the indwelling of the Spirit, who has the role of leading us to obey God's Law (Ezekiel 36:26-27).

So told me what happened, when God gave the commandments to the Israelites, and they swore all of this we will do. Over & over the people have failed God. To do what is good, by following His statues and commandments. God is not cruel, but Gracious. The Law was a guardian until Christ came that we might be justified by Faith.

As I said before the Law reminds sinners of their sins before a Holy God. And a need of a Savior; of the Promised Seed that God Promised He will sent. This is not cruel, but Gracious! God could have left us to our doom, because of what we did. But people are quick to judge God for our doing! Sin is a serious thing. But people down play it, thinking God could just let it go.

Everyone knew what was on the table in the Garden Temple. And knew about the consequences for obeying and disobeying God's commandments. So its our fault not God's! Right after God found out what Adam did, God promised Adam & Eve that He will send a Seed to save them!

The good kings tended to live for much longer than the evil kings, so if you add up the years, then you will find that Israel was under a good king for roughly 80% of the time, which still far from perfect, but is not as bad as many make it out to be. So while there were many who went astray, there were many more who continued to practice repentance and obedience by grace through faith. Again, the only purpose of reminding us of our sins is to lead us to repentance and obedience. Our salvation is from sin (Matthew 1:21) and sin is the transgression of the Law (1 John 3:4), so our salvation is from living in disobedience to God's Law so that we can be made to live in obedience to it. Jesus began his ministry with the Gospel message to repent from our sins for the Kingdom of God is at hand, and the Law reveals what things are sins that we need to repent for, so repenting from our disobedience to the Mosaic Law is a central part of the Gospel message.

Galatians states that a person who does the Law has to do the whole Law, and live it; meaning their entire life, without a single blemish. Not just for a week, or a month, or a year, then its okay to sin, because you Loved your neighbor and that fulfilled the entire Law, really? Is that what you think it means? So then if I love my neighbor once. I have fulfilled the Law entirely, so I can go on to sin? Or do I need to live the Law for the rest of my life

The issue with Galatians was not with God's Law, but with man-made works of law. According to Isaiah 45:25, all Israel will be saved, so many Jews mistakenly thought that mean that Gentiles had to become Jewish proselytes in order to become saved, which involved circumcision, and which involved joining the group of people who agreed at Sinai to do everything that Moses said. Moses had the authority to make interpretations for how to obey God's Law, and by the 1st century those who had this authority passed down to them were referred to as sitting in Moses' seat, and it had be a large body of Jewish oral laws, traditions, rulings, and fences that they taught were needed to be obeyed in order to become saved, which Jesus referred to as placing a heavy burden on the people (Matthew 23:2-4). Jesus certainly was not criticizing the Pharisees for teaching the people to obey what God had commanded them. Rather, in Matthew 15:2-3, Jesus was asked why his disciples broke the traditions of the elders and he responded by asking them why they broke the command of God for the sake of their tradition. He went on to say that for the sake of their tradition they made the Word of God (Matthew 15:6), that they worshiped God in vain because they taught as doctrine the commands of men (Matthew 15:8-9), and he called them hypocrites for setting aside the commands of God in order to establish their own traditions (Mark 7:6-9), so what the Pharisees were teaching as the Mosaic Law was actually their own traditions, and this was a major source of conflict between Jesus and the Pharisees, which continued between the followers of Jesus and the Pharisees, which came to a head in Acts 15 and Galatians. So by become circumcised, Gentiles were becoming Jewish proselytes and agreeing to live as Jews according to all of their oral laws and doing so all in order to become saved, and this is what Paul was referring to in Galatians 5:3.

As explained, to fulfill the law does not refer to doing away with it, but to causing it to be obeyed as it should be, so when we are fulfilling the Law of Christ by bearing one another's burdens, we are obeying it in the way that it should be, not doing away with it (Galatians 6:2). So there is nothing about fulfilling the Law that permits us to transgress it, but just the opposite.

I beg to differ on some points here. Sinners cannot offer anything to God in exchange for His favor toward our Salvation. We are 'ALREADY' condemned under the CURSE of the Law. Justification of the sinners before a Holy God, and Sanctification of the believer are distinct, but not separated. A sinner needs to be reconciled to God first; made right with God first; propitiated before God first; be adopted by God first, before the sinner can live to God.

The sinner needs to be made alive in Christ by the Holy Spirit, to live to God. And all this 'DOING' to the sinner, is the Gracious Loving work of God done in Christ for us! This is the good news. Then and only then can we follow Christ because 'HE' freed us from the bondage of the Law. You talk about God's Law. The sinner cannot keep any of them. That's why Christ became a CURSE for us!

We need new hearts and minds. We are dead in trespasses and sins. There is nothing we can do to save ourselves. Even our evangelical obedience does not save us!

Our salvation from sin must necessarily including being trained to stop sinning. Again, Titus 2:11-14 describes our salvation as being trained by grace to do what is godly, righteous, and good, and to refrain from doing what is ungodly and sinful, so our sanctification is part of our salvation. It again does not say that Christ gave himself to free us from the Law, but to free us from all Lawlessness and to purity for himself a people of his own possession who are zealous for doing good works, which are in accordance with what the Law instructs. We have not been set free from the law, but free from living in transgression of it so that we might be free to obey it and meet its righteous requirement (Romans 8:3-4). He who began a good work in us will be faithful to complete it on the day of Christ Jesus (Philippians 1:6).

A Priest was asked long ago, Father are we saved by Faith or by works? Neither, the Father replied, but by the sheer Mercy of God!

In is not by mercy that God saves us, but by grace through faith. It is by mercy that God delays his judgement in order to give us time to repent and return to obedience by grace through faith.
 
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Lately, the sheer number of posts which explicitly and implicitly state that Jesus saves only those who keep the law has been astounding. Most of those claiming such don't claim moral perfection, but quite frankly, I would have less of a problem with them if they did, because there is no such animal as imperfect obedience.

Does God accept "imperfect obedience"?

Does Christ save only those who obey the law?
Jesus saves us from our sins, but he wants us to stop sinning. It makes his job easier.

[12] Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling;
[13] for God is at work in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure. Phil 2:12-13 RSV
 
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You are both right, in a way.
The only human to live without sin was Jesus.
Those others called righteous are repentant sinners.
Romans 4:8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.

Thanks Dartman for your kind words of support for my medical issues. The Dodgers are keeping my hopes high.....lol. Go blue! Dartman are you familiar with Law & Gospel distinction teaching?
 
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These verses describe our salvation and how God shows his grace to us:

Psalms 119:29 Put false ways far from me and graciously teach me your law!

Titus 2:11 For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people, 12 training us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright, and godly lives in the present age, 13 waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ, 14 who gave himself for us to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people for his own possession who are zealous for good works.

God's Law was given to instruct us how to do what is holy, righteous, and good (Romans 7:12), so Titus 2:11-14 is essentially saying that our salvation involves being trained by grace to obey God's Law, and this is also how God showed His grace to David. So when Genesis 6:8 says that Noah found grace in the eyes of God, it is saying that God taught him to obey His Law and when Genesis 6:9 says that Noah was a righteous man, it is saying that Noah lived in obedience to those instructions by grace through faith.

I am talking about how a sinner is justified before a Holy God. The Christian life comes after we have been reconciled to God in Christ through Faith.

I ask you to please explain Titus 3:5, and hope you do not try to twist it into something else.

Titus 3:5he saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit, 6whom he poured out on us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior, 7so that being justified by his grace we might become heirs according to the hope of eternal life.
In Deuteronomy 30:11-15 “For this commandment that I command you today is not too hard for you, neither is it far off. 12 It is not in heaven, that you should say, ‘Who will ascend to heaven for us and bring it to us, that we may hear it and do it?’ 13 Neither is it beyond the sea, that you should say, ‘Who will go over the sea for us and bring it to us, that we may hear it and do it?’ 14 But the word is very near you. It is in your mouth and in your heart, so that you can do it. 15 “See, I have set before you today life and good, death and evil. 16 If you obey the commandments of the Lord your God that I command you today, by loving the Lord your God, by walking in his ways, and by keeping his commandments and his statutes and his rules, then you shall live and multiply, and the Lord your God will bless you in the land that you are entering to take possession of it. 17 But if your heart turns away, and you will not hear, but are drawn away to worship other gods and serve them, 18 I declare to you today, that you shall surely perish. You shall not live long in the land that you are going over the Jordan to enter and possess. 19 I call heaven and earth to witness against you today, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and curse. Therefore choose life, that you and your offspring may live, 20 loving the Lord your God, obeying his voice and holding fast to him, for he is your life and length of days, that you may dwell in the land that the Lord swore to your fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them.”

Deu. 7:8but it is because the Lord loves you and is keeping the oath that he swore to your fathers, that the Lord has brought you out with a mighty hand and redeemed you from the house of slavery, from the hand of Pharaoh king of Egypt.

Deu. 9:5Not because of your righteousness or the uprightness of your heart are you going in to possess their land, but because of the wickedness of these nations the Lord your God is driving them out from before you, and that he may confirm the word that the Lord swore to your fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob.

This is God's Covenant that He made with Abraham, of sending a Promised Seed that will save them from the bondage of sin, death & condemnation! The OT is the unfolding redemptive plan of God that is consummated in Christ in the NT. The Law keeps His people in check, until they are freed from it in Christ! Does this mean that the Law is eliminated for the believer? Certainly not! We uphold the Law as Paul says in Romans 3. The Law is no longer a curse for the believer, because Christ is the end of the Law for those who believe!
In these verses, it says that God's Law is not too difficult for us to obey and that only those who practice disobedience to the Law are under its curse, while those who practice obedience to it are under the blessing of the Law. Nowhere in the Bible does it say anything like that someone was doing a great job of obeying the law, but they sinned once and now that can't be justified by it and are under the curse of the law, but rather the consistent message from every single prophet up to and including Jesus was to repent from our sins in transgression of the Law, so the difference between whether we are under the curse or the blessing of the Law is not based upon whether we obey it perfectly, but whether we continue to practice repentance, and it is only through faith in Christ that we are granted repentance.

In Romans 5:12, it says that sin entered the world through the act of one man, not that the curse of the law entered the world through the act of one man. God's Law is not sin, but rather it reveals what sin is (Romans 7:7).

Wow! So many things running through my head. Okay what is your concept of "Holy"? And is God Perfectly Holy? It seems that repentance is being used as a crutch in your comments. Let me explain, since Christ is nowhere to be found as the Perfect Sanctification for the believer; You suggest that the believer's repentance can make up for the short fall of holiness, is just off. So I can sin as much as I want, as long as I repent of it, I'm okay? How does that saying go? "I love to sin, and God loves to forgive."

Matt. 5: 48Be perfect, therefore, as your Heavenly Father is perfect. Paul says in Galatians that those who rely on the works of the Law are under the curse. Why? If what you said, that its the ones who practice obedience to the Law are under the blessing of it.

Galatians 3:10For all who rely on the works of the law are under a curse,"

The reason why is because we are 'ALREADY' condemned Law Breakers in the first Adam. Romans 5:18Consequently, just as one trespass resulted in condemnation for all people,

We can no longer be Perfect in Holiness under the Law. And is why we are under the Law's curse because of sin. So if we think we can provide works to justify ourselves under the Law, is a delusion. Because we have to be Perfect and continue to do everything the Law requires flawlessly. Otherwise we are condemned under its curse!

But wait there is good news for Law Breakers. God sent His Son in the flesh, born under the Law. To not abolish the Law, but to fulfill it. And to condemn sin in the flesh. Why did Christ have to do this? Why fulfill the Law? Why condemn sin in the flesh? Because the penalty still hangs over the heads of Law Breakers! So Christ did, what the first Adam failed to do. And He earned a nation and a Kingdom by fulfilling His Father's Will. Which in turn becomes ours in Him, and Christ becomes sin who knew no sin, so that we will become the Righteousness of God in Him! Christ became a curse for us! That so we could live in Him!

Galatians 3:10....as it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.” 11Clearly no one who relies on the law is justified before God, because “the righteous will live by faith."
According to Titus 2:14, Christ did not give himself to free us from the curse of the Law, but to free us from all Lawlessness and to purify for himself a people of his own possession who are zealous for doing good works, and God's Law is again His instructions for how to do good works (2 Timothy 3:16-17). If God gave the Law in order to curse His children, then He is not a good Father, but rather He said that the Law was given for our good (Deuteronomy 6:24).

Scratching my head. Okay you said that Christ did not free us from the curse of the Law? Read what Paul says here.

12The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, it says, “The person who does these things will live by them.” 13Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us,

"The Law is not based on Faith." What does this mean to you? What does "REDEEM" mean, then?

Definition Redeem:
compensate for the faults or bad aspects of (something):
"a disappointing debate redeemed only by an outstanding speech" ·
Synonyms: save · compensate for the defects of · vindicate · compensating ·
From your reply, it seems like you thought Paul said that the Law is sin.

Not even close to what I said. Here again is Paul to answer your question.

7What shall we say, then? Is the law sinful? Certainly not! Nevertheless, I would not have known what sin was had it not been for the law. For I would not have known what coveting really was if the law had not said, “You shall not covet.” 8But sin, seizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment, produced in me every kind of coveting. For apart from the law, sin was dead. 9Once I was alive apart from the law; but when the commandment came, sin sprang to life and I died. 10I found that the very commandment that was intended to bring life actually brought death. 11For sin, seizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment, deceived me, and through the commandment put me to death. 12So then, the law is holy, and the commandment is holy, righteous and good.
So what relation does the Law have with sinners, now? To make us conscience of sin. Therefore we now know that we cannot fulfill the Law's requirements, because of sin. The Law only brings death to sinners! But the Law also points us to another, who has come not to abolish the Law, but to fulfill it for us!

The Law makes known what sin is, had it not been for the Law. Paul thought as you do. Paul thought that the Law was intended to bring Life, but actually brought death. Why did Paul say this? Because He finally find out through the Law, he is a sinner!

But Paul knows that in Christ through Faith, he is saved!

Romans 7:4So, my brothers and sisters, you also died to the law through the body of Christ, that you might belong to another, to him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God. 5For when we were in the realm of the flesh, the sinful passions aroused by the law were at work in us, so that we bore fruit for death. 6But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.
While the Law certainly was given to point out our sins, the purpose of doing so was to lead us to repent and turn back to obedience the Law. The Law was given to instruct us how to act according to the attributes of God, His holiness, righteousness, goodness (Romans 7:12), justice, mercy, faithfulness (Matthew 23:23), and other fruits of the spirit (Exodus 34:6-7). God's eternal attributes did not change when the Law was given or when Jesus came, so neither did the way to act according to those attributes. Now that Christ has come, we have his example and his teaching to follow for how to obey God's Law, and now have the indwelling of the Spirit, who has the role of leading us to obey God's Law (Ezekiel 36:26-27).

Christ is more than just a Moral example to follow. Christ is our Justification, Sanctification, and our Redemption (1 Cor. 1:30).

Union with Christ begins with God's pretemporal decision to save his people in and through Jesus Christ. This union, further, is based on the redemptive work for his people which Christ did in history. Finally, this union is actually established with God's people after they have been born, continues throughout their lives, and has as its goal their eternal glorification in the life to come. We go on, then, to see union with Christ as having its roots in divine election, its basis in the redemptive work of Christ, and its actual establishment with God's people in time. Union between Christ and his people was planned already in eternity, in the sovereign pretemporal decision whereby God the Father selected us as his own. Christ himself was chosen to be our Savior before the creation of the world (1 Pet. 1:20); Ephesians 1:4 teaches us that when the Father chose Christ, he also chose us...We are initially united with Christ in regeneration." [next] "We appropriate and continue to live out of this union through faith. Third, "We are justified in union with Christ."Fourth, "We are sanctified through union with Christ."Fifth, "We persevere in the life of faith in union with Christ." Finally, "We shall be eternally glorified with Christ." - by Anthony Hoekema

Regeneration, faith, conversion, renewal, and the like, often [in the Bible] do not point to successive steps in the way of salvation but rather summarize in a single word the entire change which takes place in a man." - Herman Bavinck
Again, the only purpose of reminding us of our sins is to lead us to repentance and obedience. Our salvation is from sin (Matthew 1:21) and sin is the transgression of the Law (1 John 3:4), so our salvation is from living in disobedience to God's Law so that we can be made to live in obedience to it. Jesus began his ministry with the Gospel message to repent from our sins for the Kingdom of God is at hand, and the Law reveals what things are sins that we need to repent for, so repenting from our disobedience to the Mosaic Law is a central part of the Gospel message.

The good new is not repent and believe. The good news is who Jesus is and what He has done. But people tend to locate their Salvation in their response to the Gospel, rather than in the Gospel itself.

"Union with Christ in his death and resurrection is the element of union which Paul most extensively expounds...if we are united to Christ, then we are united to him at all points of his activity on our behalf. We share in his death (we were baptized into his death), in his resurrection (we are resurrected with Christ), in his ascension (we have been raised with him), in his heavenly session (we sit with him in heavenly places, so that our life is hidden with Christ in God), and we will share in his promised return (when Christ, who is our life, appears, we also will appear with him in glory) (Rom. 6:14; Col. 2:11-12; 3:1-3). This, then, is the foundation of sanctification in Reformed theology. It is rooted, not in humanity and their achievement of holiness or sanctification, but in what God has done in Christ, and for us in union with him. Rather than view Christians first and foremost in the microcosmic context of their own progress, the Reformed doctrine first of all sets them in the macrocosm of God's activity in redemptive history. It is seeing oneself in this context that enables the individual Christian to grow in true holiness."
Sinclair Ferguson from Christian Spirituality: Five Views of Sanctification
The issue with Galatians was not with God's Law, but with man-made works of law. According to Isaiah 45:25, all Israel will be saved, so many Jews mistakenly thought that mean that Gentiles had to become Jewish proselytes in order to become saved, which involved circumcision, and which involved joining the group of people who agreed at Sinai to do everything that Moses said. Moses had the authority to make interpretations for how to obey God's Law, and by the 1st century those who had this authority passed down to them were referred to as sitting in Moses' seat, and it had be a large body of Jewish oral laws, traditions, rulings, and fences that they taught were needed to be obeyed in order to become saved, which Jesus referred to as placing a heavy burden on the people (Matthew 23:2-4).

I am familiar with New Perspective on Paul approach. So do you believe in the 'FINAL JUSTIFICATION' of the believer based on their works? Where can I find in Scripture that Moses had the authority to make interpretations for how to obey God's Law?

In Galatians Paul is preaching about Justification by Faith!

Jesus certainly was not criticizing the Pharisees for teaching the people to obey what God had commanded them. Rather, in Matthew 15:2-3, Jesus was asked why his disciples broke the traditions of the elders and he responded by asking them why they broke the command of God for the sake of their tradition. He went on to say that for the sake of their tradition they made the Word of God (Matthew 15:6), that they worshiped God in vain because they taught as doctrine the commands of men (Matthew 15:8-9), and he called them hypocrites for setting aside the commands of God in order to establish their own traditions (Mark 7:6-9), so what the Pharisees were teaching as the Mosaic Law was actually their own traditions, and this was a major source of conflict between Jesus and the Pharisees, which continued between the followers of Jesus and the Pharisees, which came to a head in Acts 15 and Galatians. So by become circumcised, Gentiles were becoming Jewish proselytes and agreeing to live as Jews according to all of their oral laws and doing so all in order to become saved, and this is what Paul was referring to in Galatians 5:3.

Romans 10:1Brothers,a my heart’s desire and prayer to God for them is that they may be saved. 2For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge. 3For, being ignorant of the righteousness of God, and seeking to establish their own, they did not submit to God’s righteousness. 4For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.

They wanted to establish their own righteousness through the Law. Thinking they can, because they are not sinners, but righteous! The Righteousness of God is only in Christ and received through faith apart from the Law (Romans 4).
As explained, to fulfill the law does not refer to doing away with it, but to causing it to be obeyed as it should be, so when we are fulfilling the Law of Christ by bearing one another's burdens, we are obeying it in the way that it should be, not doing away with it (Galatians 6:2). So there is nothing about fulfilling the Law that permits us to transgress it, but just the opposite.

I beg to differ. No flesh will be justified through the Law. This doesn't mean we abolish the Law through Faith, rather we uphold the Law! The Law does not bring to the SINNER, only death! Why you do not see this, is the reason why you do not understand what Christ actually accomplished for us!

2 Cor. 5:21For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.
Our salvation from sin must necessarily including being trained to stop sinning. Again, Titus 2:11-14 describes our salvation as being trained by grace to do what is godly, righteous, and good, and to refrain from doing what is ungodly and sinful, so our sanctification is part of our salvation. It again does not say that Christ gave himself to free us from the Law, but to free us from all Lawlessness and to purity for himself a people of his own possession who are zealous for doing good works, which are in accordance with what the Law instructs. We have not been set free from the law, but free from living in transgression of it so that we might be free to obey it and meet its righteous requirement (Romans 8:3-4). He who began a good work in us will be faithful to complete it on the day of Christ Jesus (Philippians 1:6).

Yes Sanctification is part of our Salvation. But this Sanctification has to be Perfect, without blemish. Not just close enough that God can let go! Its either Perfect or not. God will not lower His standard of Holiness to let us in! First you say that the Law is not done away with. But on the another end of your mouth, you say we don't have to be Perfectly holy?

The missing part you need, is Union with Christ. Because being in Christ; having Christ; we have also all the heavenly blessings in Him. Justification, Sanctification and Redemption.

30It is because of him that you are in Christ Jesus, who has become for us wisdom from God—that is, our righteousness, holiness and redemption. 31Therefore, as it is written: “Let the one who boasts boast in the Lord.”
In is not by mercy that God saves us, but by grace through faith. It is by mercy that God delays his judgement in order to give us time to repent and return to obedience by grace through faith.

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Galatians 3:12 This is markedly different from putting Law in the first place. Nobody receives the keeping of the Law as a free gift; it comes only as one strives against evil and puts forth a strong effort to do good (cf. Rom. 9:32). Conformity to the Law is not a matter of trust, of belief; it is a matter of achievement. Paul goes on to cite Leviticus 18:5, an exhortation to the Israelites to keep the Lord's decrees and laws because he who does them will live in them. The primary thrust of this may well signify the way to live this present life to the full, but Paul sees a more important the eternal life that comes through faith. He insists that Justification before God is the result of trusting God, not of achieving merit by one's own efforts. Duncan reminds us that 'in very age the profession of evangelical religion may go hand in hand with a punctilious attention to religious observances'. But Paul is not objecting to any 'punctilious attention to religious observances'; what he is insisting 'is that faith and the observance of Law are incompatible as grounds of justification'. The Law is concerned with doing things; it prescribes conduct. But faith is not concerned with doing things; it means trusting someone. And because Scripture speaks of faith as the way to God, salvation cannot be by works. Faith and works may well exist together in the one life; indeed, they should exist together. But faith and works cannot both be the way to salvation. Doing something to merit salvation is one thing; trusting God to so what is needed is quite another!

Charles Hodge Justification of the Sinner!


Part I: Justification

When the mind is enlightened by Divine truth, and duly impressed with a sense of guilt, it cannot fail anxiously to inquire, How can a man be just with God! The answer given to this question decides the character of our religion, and, if practically adopted, our future destiny. To give a wrong answer, is to mistake the way to heaven. It is to err where error is fatal, because it cannot be corrected. If God require one thing, and we present another, how can we be saved? If He has revealed a method in which He can be just and yet justify the sinner, and if we reject that method and insist upon pursuing a different way, how can we hope to be accepted? The answer, therefore, which is given to the above question, should be seriously pondered by all who assume the office of religious teachers, and by all who rely upon their instructions. As we are not to be judged by proxy, but every man must answer for himself, so every man should be satisfied for himself what the Bible teaches on this subject. All that religious teachers can do, is to endeavor to aid the investigations of those who are anxious to learn the way of life. And in doing this, the safest method is to adhere strictly to the instructions of the Scriptures, and to exhibit the subject as it is there presented. The substance and the form of this all-important doctrine are so intimately connected, that those who attempt to separate them can hardly fail to err. What one discards as belonging merely to the form, another considers as belonging to its substance. All certainty and security are lost, as soon as this method is adopted, and it becomes a matter to be decided exclusively by our own views of right and wrong, what is to be retained and what rejected from the scriptural representations. Our only security, therefore, is to take the language of the Bible in its obvious meaning, and put upon it the construction which the persons to whom it was addressed must have given, and which, consequently, the sacred writers intended it should bear.

As the doctrine of justification is not only frequently stated in the sacred Scriptures, but formally taught and vindicated, all that will be attempted in this article, is to give as faithfully as possible, a representation of what the inspired writers inculcate on this subject; that is, to state what positions they assume, by what arguments they sustain those positions, how they answer the objections to their doctrine, and what application they make of it to the hearts and consciences of their readers.

It is one of the primary doctrines of the Bible, everywhere either asserted or assumed, that we are under the law of God. This is true of all classes of men, whether they enjoy a Divine revelation or not. Everything which God has revered as a rule of duty, enters into the constitution of the law which binds those to whom that revelation is given, and by which they are to be ultimately judged. Those who have not received any external revelation of the Divine will are a law unto themselves. The knowledge of right and wrong, written upon their hearts, is of the nature of a Divine law, having its authority and sanction, and by it the heathen are to be judged in the last day.

God has seen fit to annex the promise of life to obedience to his law. 'The man which doeth those things shall live by them' (Rom. 10.5), is the language of Scripture on this subject. To the lawyer who admitted that the law required love to God and man, our Savior said, 'Thou has answered right: this do, and thou shalt live' (Lk. 10.28). And to one who asked him, 'What good things shall I do, that I may have eternal life?' he said, 'If thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandment.'(Mt. 19.17). On the other hand, the law denounces death as the penalty of transgression: 'The wages of sin is death.' (Rom. 6.23). Such is the uniform declaration of Scripture on this subject.

The obedience which the law demands is called righteousness; and those who render that obedience are called righteous. To ascribe righteousness to anyone, or to pronounce him righteous, is the scriptural meaning of the word 'to justify.' The word never means, to make good in a moral sense, but always to pronounce just or righteous. Thus God says, 'I will not justify the wicked'(Ex.23.7). Judges are commanded to justify the righteous and to condemn the wicked (Deut. 25.1). Woe is pronounced on those who 'justify the wicked for reward' (Isa. 5.23). In the New Testament it is said, 'By the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight' (Rom. 3.20) 'It is God that justifieth, Who is he that condemneth?' (Rom. 8.33,34). There is scarcely a word in the Bible the meaning of which is less open to doubt. There is no passage in the New Testament in which it is used out of its ordinary and obvious sense. When God justifies a man, he declares him to be righteous. To justify never means to render one holy. It is said to be sinful to justify the wicked; but it could never be sinful to render the wicked holy. And as the law demands righteousness, to impute or ascribe righteousness to anyone, is, in scriptural language, to justify. To make (or constitute) righteous, is another equivalent form of expression. Hence, to be righteous before God, and to be justified, mean the same thing: as in the following passage: ' Not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.'(Rom. 2.13) The attentive, and especially the anxious reader of the Bible cannot fail to observe, that these various expressions, to be righteous in the sight of God, to impute righteousness, to constitute righteous, to justify, and others of similar import, are so interchanged as to explain each other, and to make it clear that to justify a man is to ascribe or impute to him righteousness. The great question then is, How is this righteousness to be obtained? We have reason to be thankful that the answer which the Bible gives to this question is so perfectly plain.

In the first place, that the righteousness by which we are to be justified before God is not of works, is not only asserted, but proved. The apostle's first argument on this point is derived from the consideration that the law demands a perfect righteousness. If the law was satisfied by an imperfect obedience, or by a routine of external duties, or by any service which men are competent to render, then indeed justification would be by works. But since it demands perfect obedience, justification by works is, for sinners, absolutely impossible. It is thus the apostle reasons, 'As many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them (Gal.3.10). As the law pronounces its curse upon every man who continues not to do all that it commands, and as no man can pretend to this perfect obedience, it follows that all who look to the law for justification must be condemned. To the same effect, in a following verse, he says, 'The law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.' That is, the law is not satisfied by any single grace, or imperfect obedience. It knows, and can know no other ground of justification than complete compliance with its demands. Hence, in the same chapter, Paul says, ' If there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.' Could the law pronounce righteous, and thus give a title to the promised life to those who had broken its commands, there would have been no necessity of any other provision for the salvation of men; but as the law cannot thus lower its demands, justification by the law is impossible. The same truth is taught in a different form, when it is said, 'If righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain (Gal. 2.21). There would have been no necessity for the death of Christ, if it had been possible to satisfy the law by the imperfect obedience which we can render. Paul therefore warns all those who look to works for justification, that they are debtors to do the whole law (Gal. 5.3). It knows no compromise; it cannot demand less than what is right, and perfect obedience is right, and therefore its only language is as before, ' Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them' (Gal. 3.10); and, 'The man which doeth those things shall live by them' (Rom. 10.5). Every man, therefore, who expects justification by works, must see to it, not that he is better than other men, or that he is very exact and does many things, or that he fasts twice in the week, and gives tithes of all he possesses, but that he is SINLESS.

That the law of God is thus strict in its demands, is a truth which lies at the foundation of all Paul's reasoning in reference to the method of justification. He proves that the Gentiles have sinned against the law written on their hearts; and that the Jews have broken the law revealed in their Scriptures; both Jews and Gentiles, therefore, are under sin, and the whole world is guilty before God. Hence, he infers, that by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight. There is, however, no force in this reasoning, except on the assumption that the law demands perfect obedience. How many men, who freely acknowledge that they are sinners, depend upon their works for acceptance with God! They see no inconsistency between the acknowledgment of sin, and the expectation of justification by works. The reason is, they proceed upon a very different principle from that adopted by the apostle. They suppose that the law may be satisfied by very imperfect obedience. Paul assumes that God demands perfect conformity to his will, that his wrath is revealed against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men. With him, therefore, it is enough that men have sinned, to prove that they cannot be justified by works. It is not a question of degrees, more or less, for as to this point there is no difference, since ' all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God' (Rom. 3.23).

This doctrine, though so plainly taught in Scripture, men are disposed to think very severe. They imagine that their good deeds will be compared with their evil deeds, and that they will be rewarded or punished as the one or the other preponderates; or that the sins of one part of life may be atoned for by the good works of another, or that they can escape by mere confession and repentance. They could not entertain such expectations, if they believed themselves to be under a law. No human law is administered as men seem to hope the law of God will be. He who steals or murders, though it be but once, though he confesses and repents, though he does any number of acts of charity, is not less a thief or murderer. The law cannot take cognizance of his repentance and reformation. If he steals or murders, the law condemns him. Justification by the law is for him impossible. The law of God extends to the most secret exercises of the heart. It condemns whatever is in its nature evil. If a man violate this perfect rule of right, there is an end of justification by the law; he has failed to comply with its conditions; and the law can only condemn him. To justify him, would be to say that he had not transgressed. Men, however, think that they are not to be dealt with on the principles of strict law. Here is their fatal mistake. It is here that they are in most direct conflict with the Scriptures, which proceed upon the uniform assumption of our subjection to the law. Under the government of God, strict law is nothing but perfect excellence; it is the steady exercise of moral rectitude. Even conscience, when duly enlightened and roused, is as strict as the law of God. It refuses to be appeased by repentance, reformation, or penance. It enforces every command and every denunciation of our Supreme Ruler, and teaches, as plainly as do the Scriptures themselves, that justification by an imperfect obedience is impossible. As conscience, however, is fallible, no reliance on this subject is placed on her testimony. The appeal is to the word of God, which clearly teaches that it is impossible a sinner can be justified by works, because the law demands perfect obedience.

The apostle's second argument to show that justification is not by works, is the testimony of the Scriptures of the Old Testament. This testimony is urged in various forms. In the first place, as the apostle proceeds upon the principle that the law demands perfect obedience, all those passages which assert the universal sinfulness of men, are so many declarations that they cannot be justified by works. He therefore quotes such passages as the following: 'There is none righteous, no, not one; there is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one' (Rom. 3.10-12). The Old Testament, by teaching that all men are sinners, does, in the apostle's view, thereby teach that they can never be accepted before God on the ground of their own righteous ness. To say that a man is a sinner, is to say that the law condemns him; and of course it cannot justify him. As the ancient Scriptures are full of declarations of the sinfulness of men, so they are full of proof that justification is not by works.

But, in the second place, Paul cites their direct affirmative testimony in support of his doctrine. In the Psalms it is said, 'Enter not into judgment with thy servant; for in thy sight shall no man living be justified' (Ps. 143.2). This passage he often quotes; and to the same class belong all those passages which speak of the insufficiency or worthlessness of human righteousness in the sight of God.

In the third place, the apostle refers to those passages which imply the doctrine for which he contends; that is, to those which speak of the acceptance of men with God as a matter of grace, as something which they do not deserve, and for which they can urge no claim founded upon their own merit. It is with this view that he refers to the language of David; 'Blessed are they whose iniquities are for given, and whose sins are covered. Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin (Rom. 4.7, 8). The fact that a man is forgiven, implies that he is guilty; and the fact that he is guilty, implies that his justification cannot rest upon his own character or conduct. It need hardly be remarked, that, in this view, the whole Scriptures, from the beginning to the end, are crowded with condemnations of the doctrine of justification by works. Every penitent confession, every appeal to God's mercy, is a renunciation of all personal merit, a declaration that the penitent's hope was not founded on anything in himself. Such confessions and appeals are indeed often made by those who still rely upon their good works, or inherent righteousness, for acceptance with God. This, however, does not invalidate the apostle's argument. It only shows that such persons have a different view of what is necessary for justification, from that entertained by the apostle. They suppose that the demands of the law are so low, that although they are sinners and need to be forgiven, they can still do what the law demands. Whereas, Paul proceeds on the assumption that the law requires perfect obedience, and therefore every confession of sin, or appeal for mercy, involves a renunciation of justification by the law.

Again, the apostle represents the Old Testament Scriptures as teaching that justification is not by works, by showing that they inculcate a different method of obtaining acceptance with God. This they do by the doctrine which they teach concerning the Messiah as a Redeemer from sin. Hence Paul says, that the method of justification without works (not founded upon works) was testified by the law and the prophets; that is, by the whole of the Old Testament. The two methods of acceptance with God, the one by works, the other by a propitiation for sin, are incompatible. And as the ancient Scriptures teach the latter method, they repudiate the former. But they moreover, in express terms, assert, that 'the just shall live by faith.' And the law knows nothing of faith; its language is, 'The man that doeth them shall live in them' (Gal. 3:11,12). The law knows nothing of anything but obedience as the ground of acceptance. If the Scriptures say we are accepted through faith, they thereby say that we are not accepted on the ground of obedience.

Again: the examples of justification given in the Old Testament, show that it was not by works. The apostle appeals particularly to the case of Abraham, and asks, whether he attained justification by works; and answers, 'No, for if he were justified by works he had whereof to glory; but he had no ground of glorying before God, and therefore he was not justified by works.' And the Scriptures expressly assert, 'Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness' (Rom. 4.3). His acceptance, therefore, was by faith, and not by works.

In all these various ways does the apostle make the authority of the Old Testament sustain his doctrine, that justification is not by works. This authority is as decisive for us as it was for the ancient Jewish Christians. We also believe the Old Testament to be the word of God, and its truths come to us explained and enforced by Christ and his apostles. We have the great advantage of an infallible interpretation of these early oracles of truth; and the argumentative manner in which their authority is cited and applied, prevents all obscurity as to the real intentions of the sacred writers. That by the deeds of the law no flesh shall be justified before God is taught so clearly and so frequently in the New Testament, it is so often asserted, so formally proved, so variously assumed, that no one can doubt that such is indeed the doctrine of the word of God. The only point on which the serious inquirer can even raise a question, is, What kind of works do the Scriptures mean to exclude as the foundation for acceptance with God? Does the apostle mean works in the widest sense, or does he merely intend ceremonial observances, or works of mere formality, performed without any real love to God?

Those who attend to the nature of his assertions and to the course of his argument, will find that there is no room for doubt on this subject. The primary principle on which his
argument rests precludes all ground for mistaking his meaning. He assumes that the law demands perfect obedience, and as no man can render that obedience, he infers that no man can be justified by the law. He does not argue, that because the law is spiritual, it cannot be satisfied by mere ceremonies, or by works flowing from an impure motive. He nowhere says, that though we cannot be justified by external rites, or by works having the mere form of goodness, we are justified by our sincere, though imperfect, obedience. On the contrary, he constantly teaches, that since we are sinners, and since the law condemns all sin, it condemns us, and justification by the law is, therefore, impossible. This argument he applies to the Jews and the Gentiles without distinction, to the whole world, whether they knew anything of the Jewish Scriptures or not. It was the moral law, the law which he pronounced holy, just, and good, which says, 'Thou shalt not covet'; it is this law, however revealed, whether in the writings of Moses, or in the human heart, of which he constantly asserts that it cannot give life, or teach the way of acceptance with God. As most of those to whom he wrote had enjoyed a Divine revelation, and as that revelation included the law of Moses and all its rites, he of course included that law in his statement, and often specially refers to it; but never in its limited sense, as a code of religious ceremonies, but always in its widest scope, as including the highest rule of moral duty made known to men. And hence he never contrasts one class of works with another, but constantly works and faith, excluding all classes of the former, works of righteousness as well as those of mere formality. 'Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us' (Titus 3.5). 'Who hath saved us--not according to our works (2 Tm. 1.9). We are saved by faith, not by works (Eph. 2.9). Nay, men are said to be justified without works; to be in themselves ungodly when justified; and it is not until they are justified that they perform any real good works. It is only when united to Christ that we bring forth fruit unto God. Hence, we are said to be 'His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works' (Eph. 2.10). All the inward excellence of the Christian and the fruit of the Spirit are the consequences, and not the causes of his reconciliation and acceptance with God. They are the robe of beauty, the white garment, with which Christ arrays those who come to him poor, and blind, and naked. It is, then, the plain doctrine of the word of God, that our justification is not founded upon our own obedience to the law. Nothing done by us or wrought in us can for a moment stand the test of a rule of righteousness, which pronounces a curse upon all those who continue not in all things written in the book of the law to do them.

Part II: The Demands Of The Law Are Satisfied By What Christ Has Done.

WE have thus seen that the Scriptures teach, first, That all men are naturally under the law as prescribing the terms of their acceptance with God; and, secondly, That no obedience which sinners can render is sufficient to satisfy the demands of that law. It follows, then, that unless we are freed from the law, not as a rule of duty, but as prescribing the conditions of acceptance with God, justification is for us impossible. It is, therefore, the third great point of scriptural doctrine on this subject, that believers are free from the law in the sense just stated. 'Ye are not under the law,' says the apostle, 'but under grace' (Rom.6.14). To illustrate this declaration, he refers to the case of a woman who is bound to her husband as long as he lives; but when he is dead, she is free from her obligation to him, and is at liberty to marry another man. So we are delivered from the law as a rule of justification and are at liberty to embrace a different method of obtaining acceptance with God (Rom. 7.1-6). Paul says of himself, that he had died to the law; that is, become free from it (Gal. 2.19). And the same is said of all believers (Rom. 7.6). He insists upon this freedom as essential not only to justification, but to sanctification. For while under the law, the motions of sins, which were by the law, brought forth fruit unto death; but now we are delivered from the law, that we may serve God in newness of spirit (Rom. 7.5-6). Before faith came we were kept under the law, which he compares to a schoolmaster, but now we are no longer under a schoolmaster (Gal. 3.24, 25). He regards the desire to be subject to the law as the greatest infatuation. 'Tell me,' he says, 'ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?' and then shows that those who are under the demands of a legal system, are in the condition of slaves, and not of sons and heirs. 'Stand fast therefore,' he exhorts, 'in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free.--Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing. For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace (Gal. 4.21-1; 5.1-4). This infatuation Paul considered madness, and exclaims, 'O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth crucified among you. This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith ?' (Gal. 3.1-2). This apostasy was so fatal, the substitution of legal obedience for the work of Christ as the ground of justification was so destructive, that Paul pronounces accursed any man or angel who should preach such a doctrine for the gospel of the grace of God.

It was to the law, as revealed in the books of Moses, that the fickle Galatians were disposed to look for justification. Their apostasy, however, consisted in going back to the law, no matter in what form revealed--to works, no matter of what kind, as the ground of justification. .The apostle's arguments and denunciations, therefore, are so framed as to apply to the adoption of any form of legal obedience, instead of the work of Christ, as the ground of our confidence towards God. To suppose that all he says relates exclusively to a relapse into Judaism, is to suppose that we Gentiles have no part in the redemption of Christ. If it was only from the bondage of the Jewish economy that he redeemed his people, then those who were never subject to that bondage have no interest in his work. And of course Paul was strangely infatuated in preaching Christ crucified to the Gentiles. We find, however, that what he taught in the Epistle to the Galatians, in special reference to the law of Moses he teaches in the Epistle to the Romans in reference to that law which is holy, just, and good, and which condemns the most secret sins of the heart.

The nature of the apostle's doctrine is, if possible, even more clear from the manner in which he vindicates it, than from his direct assertions. 'What then?' he asks,'shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid' (Rom. 6.15). Had Paul taught that we are freed from the ceremonial in order to be subject to the moral law, there could have been no room for such an objection. But if he taught that the moral law itself could not give life, that we must be freed from its demands as the condition of acceptance with God, then, indeed, to the wise of this world, it might seem that he was loosing the bands of moral obligation, and opening the door to the greatest licentiousness. Hence the frequency and earnestness with which he repels the objection, and shows that, so far from legal bondage being necessary to holiness, it must cease before holiness can exist; that it is not until the curse of the law is removed, and the soul reconciled to God, that holy affections rise in the heart, and the fruits of holiness appear in the life, 'Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law' (Rom. 2.31).

It is then clearly the doctrine of the Bible, that believers are freed from the law as prescribing the conditions of their acceptance with God; it is no longer incumbent upon them, in order to justification, to fulfil its demand of perfect obedience, or to satisfy its penal exactions. But how is this deliverance effected? How is it that rational and accountable beings are exempted from the obligations of that holy and just law, which was originally imposed upon their race as the rule of justification ? The answer to this question incudes the fourth great truth respecting the way of salvation taught in the Scriptures. It is not by the abrogation of the law, either as to its precepts or penalty; it is not by lowering its demands, and accommodating them to the altered capacities or inclinations of men. We have seen how constantly the apostle teaches that the law still demands perfect obedience, and that they are debtors to do the whole law who seek justification at its hands. He no less clearly teaches, that death is as much the wages of sin in our case, as it was in that of Adam. If it is neither by abrogation nor relaxation that we are freed from the demands of the law, how has this deliverance been effected! By the mystery of vicarious obedience and suffering. This is the gospel of the grace of God. This is what was a scandal to the Jews, and foolishness to the Greeks; but, to those that are called, the power of God and the wisdom of God (1 Cor. 1.23, 24).
The Scriptures teach us that the Son of God, the brightness of the Father's glory, and the express image of his person, who thought it not robbery to be equal with God, became flesh, and subjected himself to the very law to which we were bound; that he perfectly obeyed that law, and suffered its penalty, and thus, by satisfying its demands, delivered us from its bondage, and introduced us into the glorious liberty of the sons of God. It is thus that the doctrine of redemption is presented in the Scriptures. 'God,' says the apostle, 'sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, to redeem them that were under the law' (Gal. 4.4-5). Being made under the law, we know that he obeyed it perfectly, and brought in everlasting righteousness, and is therefore declared to be 'the Lord our righteousness,'(Jer. 23.6) since, by his obedience, many are constituted righteous (Rom. 5.19). He, therefore, is said to be made righteousness unto us (1 Cor. 1.30). And those who are in him are said to be righteous before God, not having their own righteousness, but that which is through the faith of Christ (Phil. 3.9).

That we are redeemed from the curse of the law by Christ's enduring that curse in our place, is taught in every variety of form from the beginning to the end of the Bible. There was the more need that this point should be dearly and variously presented, because it is the one on which an enlightened conscience immediately fastens. The desert of death begets the fear of death. And this fear of death cannot be allayed, until it is seen how, in consistency with Divine justice, we are freed from the righteous penalty of the law. How this is done, the Scriptures teach in the most explicit manner. 'Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us' (Gal. 3.13). Paul had just said, 'As many as are of the works of the law are under the curse.' But all men are naturally under the law, and therefore all are under the curse. How are we redeemed from it? By Christ's being made a curse for us. Such is the simple and sufficient answer to this most important of all questions.

The doctrine so plainly taught in Gal. 3.13, that Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law by bearing it in our stead, is no less clearly presented in 2 Cor. 5. 21: ' He hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him,' This is represented as the only ground on which men are authorized to preach the gospel. 'We are ambassadors for Christ,' says the apostle, ' as though God did beseech you by us;: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God' (2 Cor. 5.20). Then follows a statement of the ground upon which this offer of reconciliation is presented. God has made effectual provision for the pardon of sin, by making Christ, though holy, harmless, and separate from sinners, sin for us, that we might be made righteous in him. The iniquities of us all were laid on him; he was treated as a sinner in our place, in order that we might be treated as righteous in him.

The same great truth is taught in all those passages in which Christ is said to bear our sins. The expression, to bear sin, is one which is clearly explained by its frequent occurrence in the sacred Scriptures. It means, to bear the punishment due to sin. In Lev. xx. 17, it is said that he that marries his sister 'shall bear his iniquity.' Again, ' Whosoever curseth his God, shall bear his sin' (Lev. 24.15). Of him that failed to keep the Passover, it was said, 'That man shall bear his sin' (Num. 9.13). If a man sin, he shall bear his iniquity. It is used in the same sense when one man is spoken of as bearing the sin of another. 'Your children shall wander in the wilderness forty years, and bear your whoredoms' (Num. 14.33). Our fathers have sinned, and are not; and we have borne their iniquities' (Lam. 5.7). And when, in Ezekiel xvii. to, it is said that 'the son shall not bear the iniquity of the father,' it is obviously meant that the son shall not be punished for the sins of the father. The meaning of this expression being thus definite, of course there can be no doubt as to the manner in which it is to be understood when used in reference to the Redeemer. The prophet says, 'The Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.--My righteous servant shall justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.--He was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many' (Isa. 53.6, 11, 122). Language more explicit could not be used. This whole chapter is designed to teach one great truth, that our sins were to be laid on the Messiah, that we might be freed from the punishment which we deserved. It is therefore said, 'He was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities; the chastisement of our peace was upon him.--For the transgression of my people was he stricken.' In the New Testament, the same doctrine is taught in the same terms. 'Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree' (1 Pet. 2.24). 'Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many' (Heb. 9.28). 'Ye know that he was manifested to take away' (to bare) 'our sins' (1 Jn. 3.5). According to all these representations, Christ saves us from the punishment due to our sins, by bearing the curse of the law in OUR stead.

Intimately associated with the passages just referred to, are those which describe the
Redeemer as a sacrifice or propitiation. The essential idea of a sin offering is propitiation by means of vicarious punishment. That this is the scriptural idea of a sacrifice is plain from the laws of their institution, from the effects ascribed to them, and from the illustrative declarations of the sacred writers. The law prescribed that the offender should bring the victim to the altar, lay his hands upon its head, make confession of his crime; and that the animal should then be slain, and its blood sprinkled upon the altar. Thus, it is said, 'He shall put his hand upon the head of the burnt offering, and it shall be accepted for him to make atonement for him' (Lev. 1.4) 'And he brought the bullock for the sin offering; and Aaron and his sons laid their hands upon the head of the bullock for the sin offering' (Lev. 8.14). The import of this imposition of hands is clearly taught in the following passage: 'And Aaron shall lay both his hands upon the head of the live goat, and confess over him all the iniquities of the children of Israel, and all their transgressions in all their sins, putting them upon the head of the goat; and the goat shall bear upon him all their iniquities unto a land not inhabited' (Lev. 16.21 22). The imposition of hands, therefore, was designed to express symbolically the ideas of substitution and transfer the liability to punishment. In the case just referred to, in order to convey more clearly the idea of the removal of the liability to punishment, the goat on whose head the sins of the people were imposed, was sent into the wilderness, but another goat was slain and consumed in its stead.

The nature of these offerings is further obvious from the effects attributed to them. They were commanded in order to make atonement, to propitiate, to make reconciliation, to secure the forgiveness of sins. And this effect they actually secured. In the case of every Jewish offender, some penalty connected with the theocratical constitution under which he lived, was removed by the presentation and acceptance of the appointed sacrifice. This was all the effect, in the way of securing pardon, that the blood of bulls and of goats could produce. Their efficacy was confined to the purifying of the flesh, and to securing, for those who offered them, the advantages of the external theocracy. Besides, however, this efficacy, which, by Divine appointment, belonged to them considered in themselves, they were intended to prefigure and predict the true atoning sacrifice which was to be offered when the fulness of time should come. Nothing, however, can more clearly illustrate the scriptural doctrine of sacrifices, than the expressions employed by the sacred writers to convey the same idea as that intended by the term sin offering. Thus, all that Isaiah taught by saying of the Messiah that the chastisement of our peace was upon him; that with his stripes we are healed; that he was stricken for the transgression of the people; that on him was laid the iniquity of us all, and that he bore the sins of many, he taught by saying, 'he made his soul an offering for sin.' And in the Epistle to the Hebrews it is said, He 'was once offered' (as a sacrifice) 'to bear the sins of many' (Heb. 9.28). The same idea, therefore, is expressed by saying, either he bore our sins, or he was made an offering for sin. But to bear the sins of anyone, means to bear the punishment of those sins; and, therefore, to be a sin offering conveys the same meaning.

Such being the idea of a sacrifice which pervades the whole Jewish Scriptures, it is obvious that the sacred writers could not teach more distinctly and intelligibly the manner in which Christ secures the pardon of sin, than by saying he was made an offering for sin. With this mode of pardon all the early readers of the Scriptures were familiar. They had been accustomed to it from their earliest years. No one of them could recall the time when the altar, the victim, and the blood were unknown to him. His first lessons in religion contained the ideas of confession of sin, substitution, and vicarious sufferings and death. When, therefore, the inspired penmen told men imbued with these ideas that Christ was a propitiation for sin, that he was offered as a sacrifice to make reconciliation, they told them, in the plainest of all terms, that he secures the pardon of our sins by suffering in our stead. Jews could understand such language in no other way: and, therefore, we may be sure it was intended to convey no other meaning. And, in point of fact, it has been so understood by the Christian church from its first organization to the present day.

If it were merely in the way of casual allusion that Christ was declared to be a sacrifice, we should not be authorized to infer from it the method of redemption. But this is far from being the case. This doctrine is presented in the most didactic form. It is exhibited in every possible mode. It is asserted, illustrated, vindicated. It is made the central point of all Divine institutions and instructions. It is urged as the foundation of hope, as the source of consolation, the motive to obedience. It is, in fact, THE GOSPEL. It would be vain to attempt a reference to all the passages in which this great doctrine is taught. We are told that God set forth Jesus Christ as a propitiation for our sins through faith in his blood (Rom. 3.25). Again, he is declared to be a 'propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world' (1 Jn. 2.2). He is called the Lamb of God, which taketh away' (beareth) 'the sin of the world' (Jn. 1.29). 'Ye were not redeemed,' says the apostle Peter, 'with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; but with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot' 1 Pet. 1.18,19). In the Epistle to the Hebrews, this doctrine is more fully exhibited than in any other portion of Scripture. Christ is not only repeatedly called a sacrifice, but an elaborate comparison is made between the offering which he presented and the sacrifices which were offered under the old dispensation. 'If the blood of bulls and of goats,' says the apostle, 'and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh, how much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself with out spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God!' (Heb. 9.13,14). The ancient sacrifices in themselves could only remove ceremonial uncleanness. They could not purge the conscience, or reconcile the soul to God. They were mere shadows of the true sacrifice for sins. Hence, they were offered daily. Christ's sacrifice being really efficacious, was offered but once. It was because the ancient sacrifices were ineffectual, that Christ said, when he came into the world, 'Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me; in burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure. Then said I, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God' (Heb. 10.5-15). 'By the which will', adds the apostle, that is, by the accomplishing the purpose of God, 'we are sanctified' (or atoned for) 'through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all'; and by that 'one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified,' and of all this he adds, the Holy Ghost is witness (Heb. 10.5-15). The Scriptures, therefore, clearly teach that Jesus Christ delivers us from the punishment of our sins, by offering himself as a sacrifice in our behalf; that as under the old dispensation, the penalties attached to the violations of the theocratical covenant, were removed by the substitution and sacrifice of bulls and of goats, so under the spiritual theocracy, in the living temple of the living God, the punishment of sin is removed by the substitution and death of the Son of God. As no ancient Israelite, when by transgression he had forfeited his liberty of access to the earthly sanctuary, was ignorant of the mode of atonement and reconciliation; so now, no conscience-stricken sinner, who knows that he is unworthy to draw near to God, need be ignorant of that new and living way which Christ hath consecrated for us, through his flesh, so that we have boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus.

In all the forms of expression mentioned--Christ was made a curse for us; he was made sin for us; he bore our sins, he was made a sin offering--there is the idea of substitution. Christ took our place, he suffered in our stead, he acted as our representative. But as the act of a substitute is in effect the act of the principal, all that Christ did and suffered in that character, every believer is regarded as having done and suffered. The attentive and pious reader of the Bible will recognize this idea in some of the most common forms of scriptural expression. Believers are those who are in Christ. This is their great distinction and most familiar designation. They are so united to him, that what he did in their behalf they are declared to have done. When he died, they died; when he rose, they rose; as he lives, they shall live also. The passages in which believers are said to have died in Christ are very numerous. 'If one died for all,' says the apostle, 'then all died' (not, 'were dead') (2 Cor. 5.14). He that died (with Christ) is justified from sin, that is, freed from its condemnation and power; and if we died with Christ, we believe, that we shall live with him (Rom. 6. 7, 8). As a woman is freed by death from her husband, so believers are freed from the law by the body (the death) of Christ, because his death is in effect their death (Rom. 7.4). And in the following verse, he says, having died (in Christ), we are freed from the law. Every believer, therefore, may say with Paul, I was crucified with Christ (Gal. 2.20). In like manner, the resurrection of Christ secures both the spiritual life and future resurrection of all his people. If we have been united to him in his death, we shall be in his resurrection, if we died with him, we shall live with him (Rom.6.5, 8). 'God,' says the apostle, 'hath quickened us together with Christ; and hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus' (Eph.2.4-6). That is, God hath quickened, raised, and exalted us together with Christ. It is on this ground, also, that Paul says that Christ rose as the firstfruits of the dead; not merely the first in order, but the earnest and security of the resurrection of his people. 'For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive' (1 Cor. 15.20, 22). As our union with Adam secures our death, union with Christ secures our resurrection. Adam is a type of him that was to come--that is, Christ, inasmuch as the relation in which Adam stood to the whole race, is analogous to that in which Christ stands to his own people. As Adam was our natural head, the poison of sin flows in all our veins. As Christ is our spiritual Head, eternal life which is in him, descends to all his members. It is not they that live, but Christ that liveth in them (Gal. 2.20). This doctrine of the representative and vital union of Christ and believers pervades the New Testament. It is the source of the humility, the joy, the confidence which the sacred writers so often express. In themselves they were nothing, and deserved nothing, but in Him they possessed all things. Hence, they counted all things but loss that they might be found in Him. Hence, they determined to know nothing, to preach nothing, to glory in nothing, but Christ and him crucified.

The great doctrine of the vicarious sufferings and death of Jesus Christ, is further taught in those numerous passages which refer our salvation to his blood, his death, or his cross. Viewed in connexion with the passages already mentioned, those now referred to not only teach the fact that the death of Christ secures the pardon of sin, but how it does it. To this class belong such declarations as the following: 'The blood of Jesus Christ cleanseth us from all sin' (1 Jn. 1.7). 'We have redemption through his blood' (Eph. 1.7). He has 'made peace through the blood of his cross' (Col. 1.20). 'Being now justified by his blood' (Rom. 5.9). Ye 'are made nigh by the blood of Christ' (Eph. 2.13). 'Ye are come--to the blood of sprinkling' (Heb. 12.22, 24). 'Elect--unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ' (1 Pet. 1.2). 'Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood' (Rev. 1.5). 'He hath redeemed us unto God by his blood' (Rev. 5.9) 'This cup,' said the Son of God himself, 'is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for many for the remission of sins' (Mt. 26.28). The sacrificial character of the death of Christ is taught in all these passages. Blood was the means of atonement, and without the shedding of blood there was no remission; and, therefore, when our salvation is so often ascribed to the blood of the Savior, it is declared that he died as a propitiation for our sins.

The same remark may be made in reference to those passages which ascribe our redemption to the death, the cross, the flesh of Christ; for these terms are interchanged, as being of the same import. We are 'reconciled to God by the death of his Son' (Rom. 5.10). We are reconciled his cross. (Eph. 2.16). We are 'reconciled in the body of his flesh through death' (Col. 1.21, 22). We are delivered from the law 'by the body of Christ' (Rom. 7.4); he abolished the law in his flesh (Eph. 2.15); he took away the handwriting which was against us, nailing it to his cross (Col. 2.14). The more general expressions respecting Christ's dying for us, receive a definite meaning from their connexion with the more specific passages above mentioned. Everyone, therefore, knows what is meant, when it is said that ' Christ died for the ungodly' (Rom. 5.6); that he gave himself ' a ransom for many' (Mt. 20.28); that he died 'the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God' (1 Pet. 3.18). Not less plain is the meaning of the Holy Spirit when it is said, God 'spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all' (Rom. 8.32); that he 'was delivered for our offences' (Rom. 4.25); that he 'gave himself for our sins' (Gal. 1.4).

Seeing, then, that we owe everything to the expiatory sufferings of the blessed Savior, we cease to wonder that the cross is rendered so prominent in the exhibition of the plan of salvation. We are not surprised at Paul's anxiety lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect; or that he should call the preaching of the gospel the preaching of the cross; or that he should preach Christ crucified, both to Jews and Creeks, as the wisdom of God and the power of Cod; or that he should determine to glory in nothing save in the cross of Christ.

As there is no truth more necessary to be known, so there is none more variously or plainly taught, than the method of escaping the wrath of God due to us for sin. Besides all the clear exhibitions of Christ as bearing our sins, as dying in our stead, as making his soul an offering for sin, as redeeming us by his blood, the Scriptures set him forth in the character of a Priest, in order that we might more fully understand how it is that he effects our salvation. It was predicted, long before his advent, that the Messiah was to be a Priest. 'Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek,' was the declaration of the Holy Spirit by the mouth of David (Ps. 110.4). Zechariah predicted that he should sit as 'a priest upon his throne (Zech. 6.13). The apostle defines a priest to be a man 'ordained for men in things pertaining to God, that he may offer both gifts and sacrifices for sins (Heb. 5.1). Jesus Christ is the only real Priest in the universe. All others were either pretenders, or the shadow of the great High priest of our profession. For this office he had every necessary qualification. He was a man. 'For inasmuch as the children were partakers of flesh and blood, he also took part of the same, in order that he might be a merciful and faithful High Priest; one who can be touched with a sense of our infirmities, seeing that was tempted in all points like as we are, yet without sin.' He was sinless. 'For such a High Priest became us, who was holy, harmless, and separate from sinners.' He was the Son of God. The law made men having infirmity, priests. But God declared his Son to be a Priest, who is consecrated for evermore (Heb. 7.28). The sense in which Christ is declared to be the Son of God, is explained in the first chapter of the Epistle to the Hebrews. It is there said, that he is the express image of God; that he upholds all things by the word of his power; that all the angels are commanded to worship him; that his throne is an everlasting throne; that in the beginning he laid the foundations of the earth; that he is from everlasting and that his years fail not. It is from the dignity of his person, as possessing this Divine nature, that the apostle deduces the efficacy of his sacrifice (Heb. 9.14), the perpetuity of his priesthood (Heb. 7.16), and his ability to save to the uttermost all who come unto God by him (Heb. 7.25). He was duly constituted a Priest. He glorified not himself to be made a High Priest; but he that said unto him, 'Thou art my Son,' said also, 'Thou art a Priest for ever.' He is the only real Priest, and therefore his advent superseded all others, and put an immediate end to all their lawful ministrations, by abolishing the typical dispensation with which they were connected. For the priesthood being changed, there was of necessity a change of the law. There was a disannulling of the former commandment for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof, and there was the introduction of a better hope (Heb. 7.12, 18, 19). He has an appropriate offering to present. As every high priest is appointed to offer sacrifices, it was necessary that this man should have somewhat to offer. This sacrifice was not the blood of goats or of calves, but his own blood; it was himself he offered unto God, to purge our conscience from dead works (Heb. 9.12, 14). He has 'put away sin by the sacrifice of himself,' which was accomplished when he was 'once offered to bear the sin of many (Heb. 9.26, 28). He has passed into the heavens. As the high priest was required to enter into the most holy place with the blood of atonement, so Christ has entered not into the holy places made with hands, 'but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us, (Heb. 9.24) and where 'he ever lives to make intercession for us (Heb. 7.25).

Seeing then we have a great High Priest that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God (let the reader remember what that means), who is set down on the right hand of the Majesty on high, having by himself purged out sins and made reconciliation for the sins of the people, every humble believer who commits his soul into the hands of this High Priest, may come with boldness to the throne of grace, assured that he shall find mercy and grace to help in time of need.

Part III: The righteousness of Christ the true ground of our justification.

The practical effects of this doctrine.

THE Bible, as we have seen, teaches, first, that we are under a law which demands perfect obedience, and which threatens death in case of transgression; secondly, that all men have failed in rendering that obedience, and therefore are subject to the threatened penalty; thirdly, that Christ has redeemed us from the law by being made under it, and in our place satisfying its demands. It only remains to be shown, that this perfect righteousness of Christ is presented as the ground of our justification before God.

In scriptural language, condemnation is a sentence of death pronounced upon sin; justification is a sentence of life pronounced upon righteousness. As this righteousness is not our own, as we are sinners, ungodly, without works, it must be the righteousness of another, even of Him who is our righteousness. Hence we find so constantly the distinction between our own righteousness and that which God gives. The Jews, the apostle says, being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, would not submit themselves unto the righteousness of God (Rom. 10.3). This was the rock on which they split. They knew that justification required a righteousness; they insisted on urging their own, imperfect as it was, and would not accept of that which God had provided in the merits of his Son, who is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone that believes. The same idea is presented in Rom. ix. 30-32, where Paul sums up the case of the rejection of the Jews and the acceptance of believers. The Gentiles have attained righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith. But Israel hath not attained it. Why? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. The Jews would not receive and confide in the righteousness which God had provided, but endeavored, by works, to prepare a righteousness of their own. This was the cause of their ruin. In direct contrast to the course pursued by the majority of his kinsmen, we find Paul renouncing all dependence upon his own righteousness, and thankfully receiving that which God had provided; though he had every advantage and every temptation to trust in himself, that any man could have; for he was one of the favored people of God, circumcised on the eighth day, and touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless; yet all these things he counted but loss, that he might win Christ, and be found in him, not having his own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith (Phil. 3.4-9). Here the two righteousness are brought distinctly into view. The one was his own, consisting in obedience to the law; this Paul rejects as inadequate, and unworthy of acceptance. The other is of God, and received by faith; this Paul accepts and glories in as all-sufficient and as alone sufficient. This is the righteousness which the apostle says God imputes to those without works. Hence it is called a gift, a free gift, a gift by grace, and believers are described as those who receive this gift of righteousness (Rom. 5.17). Hence we are never said to be justified by anything done by us or wrought in us, but by what Christ has done for us. We are justified through the redemption that is in him (Rom. 3.24). We are justified by his blood (Rom. 5.9) We are justified by his obedience (Rom. 5.19). We are justified by him from all things (Acts 13.39). He is our righteousness (1 Cor. 1.30). We are made the righteousness of God in him (2 Cor. 5.21). We are justified
in his name (1 Cor. 6.11). There is no condemnation to those who are in him (Rom. 8.1) Justification is, therefore, by faith in Christ, because faith is receiving and trusting to him as our Savior, as having done all that is required to secure our acceptance before God.

It is thus, then, the Scriptures answer the question, How can a man be just with God? When the soul is burdened with a sense of sin, when it sees how reasonable and holy is that law which demands perfect obedience, and which threatens death as the penalty of transgression, when it feels the absolute impossibility of ever satisfying these just demands by its own obedience and sufferings, it is then that the revelation of Jesus Christ as our righteousness is felt to be the wisdom and power of God unto salvation. Destitute of all righteousness in ourselves, we have our righteousness in him. What we could not do, he has done for us, The righteousness, therefore, on the ground of which the sentence of justification is passed upon the believing sinner, is not his own, but that of Jesus Christ.

It is one of the strongest evidences of the Divine origin of the Scriptures, that they are suited to the nature and circumstances of man. If their doctrines were believed and their precepts obeyed, men would stand in their true relation to God, and the different classes of men to each other. Parents and children, husbands and wives, rulers and subjects, would be found in their proper sphere, and would attain the highest possible degree of excellence and happiness. Truth is in order to holiness. And all truth is known to be truth by its tendency to promote holiness. As this test, when applied to the Scriptures generally, evinces their Divine perfection, so when applied to the cardinal doctrine of justification by faith in Jesus Christ, it shows that doctrine to be worthy of all acceptation. On this ground it is commended by the sacred writers. They declare it to be in the highest degree honorable to God, and beneficial to man. They assert that it is so arranged as to display the wisdom, justice, holiness, and love of God, while it secures the pardon, peace, and holiness of men. If it failed in either of these objects; if it were not suited to the Divine character, or to our nature and necessities, it could not answer the end for which it was designed.

It will be readily admitted, that the glory of God in the exhibition or revelation of the Divine perfections, is the highest conceivable end of creation and redemption; and consequently, that any doctrine which is suited to make such an exhibition is, on that account, worthy of being universally received and gloried in. Now, the inspired writers teach us, that it is peculiarly in the plan of redemption that the Divine perfections are revealed; that it was designed to show unto principalities and powers the manifold wisdom of God; that Christ was set forth as a propitiatory sacrifice to exhibit his righteousness or justice; and especially, that in the ages to come he might show forth the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness towards us in Christ Jesus. It is the love of God, the breadth, and length, and depth, and height of which pass knowledge, that is here most conspicuously displayed. Some men strangely imagine that the death of Christ procured for us the love of God; whereas it was the effect and not the cause of that love. Christ did not die that God might love us; but he died because God loved us. 'God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.' (Rom. 5.8). He 'so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life' (Jn. 3.16). 'In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him. Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins' (1 Jn. 4.9-10).

As this love of God is manifested towards the unworthy, it is called grace, and this is what the Scriptures dwell upon with such peculiar frequency and earnestness. The mystery of redemption is, that a Being of infinite holiness and justice should manifest such wonderful love to sinners. Hence the sacred writers so earnestly denounce everything that obscures this peculiar feature of the gospel; everything which represents men as worthy, as meriting, or, in any way, by their own goodness, securing the exercise of this love of God. It is of grace, lest any man should boast. We are justified by grace; we are saved by grace; and if of grace, it is no more of works, otherwise grace is no more grace (Eph. 2.8, 9; Rom. 11.6). The apostle teaches us not only that the plan of salvation had its origin in the unmerited kindness of God, and that our acceptance with him is in no way or degree founded in our own worthiness, but moreover that the actual administration of the economy of mercy is so conducted as to magnify this attribute of the Divine character. God chooses the foolish, the base, the weak, yea, those who are nothing, in order that no flesh should glory in his presence. Christ is made everything to us, that those who glory should glory only in the Lord (1 Cor. 1.27-31).

It cannot fail to occur to every reader, that unless he sincerely rejoices in this feature of the plan of redemption, unless he is glad that the whole glory of his salvation belongs to God, his heart cannot be in accordance with the gospel. If he believes that the ground of his acceptance is in himself, or even wishes that it were so, he is not prepared to join in those grateful songs of acknowledgment to Him, who hath saved us and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which it is the delight of the redeemed to offer unto him that loved them and gave himself for them. It is most obvious, that the sacred writers are abundant in the confession of their unworthiness in the sight of God. They acknowledged that they were unworthy absolutely, and unworthy comparatively. It was of grace that any man was saved; and it was of grace that they were saved rather than others. It is, therefore, all of grace, that God may be exalted and glorified in all them that believe.

The doctrine of the gratuitous justification of sinners by faith in Jesus Christ, not only displays the infinite love of God, but it is declared to be peculiarly honorable to him, or peculiarly consistent with his attributes, because it is adapted to all men. 'Is he the God of the Jews only? Is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also, seeing it is one God which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith' (Rom. 3.29, 30). 'For the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For WHOSOEVER Shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved' (Rom. 10.12, 13). This is no narrow, national, or sectarian doctrine. It is as broad as the earth. Wherever men, the creatures of God, can be found, there the mercy of God in Christ Jesus may be preached. The apostle greatly exults in this feature of the plan of redemption, as worthy of God, and as making the gospel the foundation of a religion for all nations and ages. In revealing a salvation sufficient for all and suited for all, it discloses Cod in his true
character, as the God and Father of all.

The Scriptures, however, represent this great doctrine as not less suited to meet the necessities of man, than it is to promote the glory of God. If it exalts God, it humbles man. If it renders it manifest that he is a Being of infinite holiness, justice, and love, it makes us feel that we are destitute of all merit, nay, are most ill-deserving; that we are without strength; that our salvation is an undeserved favor. As nothing is more true than the guilt and helplessness of men, no plan of redemption which does not recognize these facts, could ever be in harmony with our inward experience, or command the full acquiescence of the penitent soul. The ascription of merit which we are conscious we do not deserve, produces of itself severe distress; and if this false estimate of our deserts is the ground of the exhibition of special kindness towards us, it destroys the happiness such kindness would otherwise produce. To a soul, therefore, sensible of its pollution and guilt in the sight of God, the doctrine that it is saved on account of its own goodness, or because it is better than other men, is discordant and destructive of its peace. Nothing but an absolutely gratuitous salvation can suit a soul sensible of its ill desert. Nothing else suits its views of truth, or its sense of right. The opposite doctrine involves a falsehood and a moral impropriety, in which neither the reason nor conscience can acquiesce. The scriptural doctrine, which assumes what we know to be true-namely, our guilt and helplessness--places us in our proper relation to God; that relation which accords with the truth, with our sense of right, with our inward experience, and with every proper desire of our hearts. This is one of the reasons why the Scriptures represent peace as the consequence of justification by faith. There can be no peace while the soul is not in harmony with God, and there can be no such harmony until it willingly occupies its true position in relation to God. So long as it does not acknowledge its true character, so long as it acts on the assumption of its ability to merit or to earn the Divine favor, it is in a false position. Its feelings towards God are wrong, and there is no manifestation of approbation or favor on the part of God towards the soul. But when we take our true place and feel our ill desert, and look upon pardoning mercy as a mere gratuity, we find access to God, and his love is shed abroad in our hearts, producing that peace which passes all understanding. The soul ceases from its legal strivings; it gives over the vain attempt to make itself worthy, or to work out a righteousness wherewith to appear before God. It is contented to be accepted as unworthy, and to receive as a gift a righteousness which can bear the scrutiny of God. Peace, therefore, is not the result of the assurance of mere pardon, but of pardon founded upon a righteousness which illustrates the character of God; which magnifies the law and makes it honorable; which satisfies the justice of God while it displays the infinite riches of Divine tenderness and love. The soul can find no objection to such a method of forgiveness. It is not pained by the ascription of merit to itself, which is felt to be undeserved. Its utter unworthiness is not only recognized, but openly declared. Nor is it harassed by the anxious doubt whether God can, consistently with his justice, forgive sin. For justice is as clearly revealed in the cross of Christ, as love. The whole soul, therefore, however enlightened, or however sensitive, acquiesces with humility and delight in a plan of mercy which thus honors God, and which, while it secures the salvation of the sinner, permits him to hide himself in the radiance which surrounds his Savior.

The apostles, moreover, urge on men the doctrine of justification by faith with peculiar earnestness, because it presents the only method of deliverance from sin. So long as men are under the condemnation of the law, and feel themselves bound by its demands of obedience as the condition and ground of their acceptance with God, they do and must feel that he is unreconciled, that his perfections are arrayed against them. Their whole object is to propitiate him by means which they know to be inadequate. Their spirit is servile, their religion a bondage, their God is a hard Master. To men in such a state, true love, true obedience, and real peace are alike impossible. But when they are brought to see that God, through his infinite love, has set forth Jesus Christ as a propitiation for our sins, that he might be just, and yet justify those that believe; that it is not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saves us--they are emancipated from their former bondage and made the sons of God. God is no longer a hard Master, but a kind Father. Obedience is no longer a task to be done for a reward; it is the joyful expression of filial love. The whole relation of the soul to God is changed, and all our feelings and conduct change with it. Though we have no works to perform in order to justification, we have everything to do in order to manifest our gratitude and love. 'Do we then make void the law through faith! God forbid: yea, we establish the law' (Rom. 3.31). There is no such thing as real, acceptable obedience, until we are thus delivered from the bondage of the law as the rule of justification, and are reconciled to God by the death of his Son. Till then we are slaves and enemies, and have the feelings of slaves. When we have accepted the terms of reconciliation, we are the sons of God, and have the feelings of sons.

It must not, however, be supposed that the filial obedience rendered by the children of God, is the effect of the mere moral influence arising from a sense of his favor. Though, perhaps, the strongest influence which any external consideration can exert, it is far from being the source of the holiness which always follows faith. The very act by which we become interested in the redemption of Christ, from the condemnation of the law, makes us partakers of his Spirit. It is not mere pardon, or any other isolated blessing, that is offered to us in the gospel, but complete redemption, deliverance from evil and restoration to the love and life of God. Those, therefore, who believe, are not merely forgiven, but are so united to Christ, that they derive from and through him the Holy Spirit. This is his great gift, bestowed upon all who come to Him and confide in Him. This is the reason why he says, 'Without me ye can do nothing.--As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit' (Jn. 15.4, 5).

The gospel method of salvation, therefore, is worthy of all acceptation. It reveals the Divine perfections in the dearest and most affecting light, and it is in every way suited to the character and necessities of men. It places us in our true position as undeserving sinners; and it secures pardon, peace of conscience, and holiness of life. It is the wisdom and the power of God unto salvation. It cannot be a matter of surprise that the Scriptures represent the rejection of this method of redemption as the prominent ground of the condemnation of those who perish under the sound of the gospel. That the plan should be so clearly revealed, and yet men should insist upon adopting some other, better suited to their inclinations, is the height of folly and disobedience. That the Son of God should come into the world, die the just for the unjust, and offer us eternal life, and yet we should reject his proffered mercy, proves such an insensibility to his excellence and love, such a love of sin, such a disregard of the approbation and enjoyment of God, that, could all other grounds of condemnation be removed, this alone would be sufficient. 'He that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God' (Jn. 3.18).
 
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Lately, the sheer number of posts which explicitly and implicitly state that Jesus saves only those who keep the law has been astounding. Most of those claiming such don't claim moral perfection, but quite frankly, I would have less of a problem with them if they did, because there is no such animal as imperfect obedience.

Does God accept "imperfect obedience"?

Does Christ save only those who obey the law?

He only was sent to save the lost sheep of Israel. The law was given to Israel. Does this mean he only saves those that abide in the law? Yes and no. No one can completely fulfill the law, aside from Jesus. So your question, was does he accept imperfect obedience? That's all that he accepts. If you don't even TRY to abide, then you're a practicer of iniquity, and he will say depart from me in the end times. If you try your best to uphold the law, but obviously fail seeing as you're just a man, but place your faith for salvation on him, then you will be saved. That's exactly the type of person he has come to save. One that tries to be perfect IN the law, not perfect BY the law. 1 John 3:7

The difference is when you try to perfectly follow the law (obviously you'll fail) but you desiring to follow it, is how you show God, and the world your love for God. It's why that pesky verse, faith without works is dead exists. The law are the works. Will those works save you? No, hence us needing a savior, but those works, are the works of God. The fact that you desire to do them, shows that his seed resides in you, and that you are his child.
 
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In is not by mercy that God saves us, but by grace through faith. It is by mercy that God delays his judgement in order to give us time to repent and return to obedience by grace through faith.

It is not by Mercy that God saves us, is what you wrote. Here's Titus 3:5he saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit,

What kind of works do the Scriptures mean to exclude as the foundation for acceptance with God? Does the apostle mean works in the widest sense, or does he merely intend ceremonial observances, or works of mere formality, performed without any real love to God?

Those who attend to the nature of his assertions and to the course of his argument, will find that there is no room for doubt on this subject. The primary principle on which his
argument rests precludes all ground for mistaking his meaning. He assumes that the law demands perfect obedience, and as no man can render that obedience, he infers that no man can be justified by the law. He does not argue, that because the law is spiritual, it cannot be satisfied by mere ceremonies, or by works flowing from an impure motive. He nowhere says, that though we cannot be justified by external rites, or by works having the mere form of goodness, we are justified by our sincere, though imperfect, obedience. On the contrary, he constantly teaches, that since we are sinners, and since the law condemns all sin, it condemns us, and justification by the law is, therefore, impossible. This argument he applies to the Jews and the Gentiles without distinction, to the whole world, whether they knew anything of the Jewish Scriptures or not. It was the moral law, the law which he pronounced holy, just, and good, which says, 'Thou shalt not covet'; it is this law, however revealed, whether in the writings of Moses, or in the human heart, of which he constantly asserts that it cannot give life, or teach the way of acceptance with God. As most of those to whom he wrote had enjoyed a Divine revelation, and as that revelation included the law of Moses and all its rites, he of course included that law in his statement, and often specially refers to it; but never in its limited sense, as a code of religious ceremonies, but always in its widest scope, as including the highest rule of moral duty made known to men. And hence he never contrasts one class of works with another, but constantly works and faith, excluding all classes of the former, works of righteousness as well as those of mere formality. 'Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us' (Titus 3.5). 'Who hath saved us--not according to our works (2 Tm. 1.9). We are saved by faith, not by works (Eph. 2.9). Nay, men are said to be justified without works; to be in themselves ungodly when justified; and it is not until they are justified that they perform any real good works. It is only when united to Christ that we bring forth fruit unto God. Hence, we are said to be 'His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works' (Eph. 2.10). All the inward excellence of the Christian and the fruit of the Spirit are the consequences, and not the causes of his reconciliation and acceptance with God. They are the robe of beauty, the white garment, with which Christ arrays those who come to him poor, and blind, and naked. It is, then, the plain doctrine of the word of God, that our justification is not founded upon our own obedience to the law. Nothing done by us or wrought in us can for a moment stand the test of a rule of righteousness, which pronounces a curse upon all those who continue not in all things written in the book of the law to do them. (Justification of the Sinner, by Charles Hodge)
 
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He only was sent to save the lost sheep of Israel. The law was given to Israel. Does this mean he only saves those that abide in the law? Yes and no. No one can completely fulfill the law, aside from Jesus. So your question, was does he accept imperfect obedience? That's all that he accepts. If you don't even TRY to abide, then you're a practicer of iniquity, and he will say depart from me in the end times. If you try your best to uphold the law, but obviously fail seeing as you're just a man, but place your faith for salvation on him, then you will be saved. That's exactly the type of person he has come to save. One that tries to be perfect IN the law, not perfect BY the law. 1 John 3:7

The difference is when you try to perfectly follow the law (obviously you'll fail) but you desiring to follow it, is how you show God, and the world your love for God. It's why that pesky verse, faith without works is dead exists. The law are the works. Will those works save you? No, hence us needing a savior, but those works, are the works of God. The fact that you desire to do them, shows that his seed resides in you, and that you are his child.
Allow me to share this with you.

What kind of works do the Scriptures mean to exclude as the foundation for acceptance with God? Does the apostle mean works in the widest sense, or does he merely intend ceremonial observances, or works of mere formality, performed without any real love to God?
Those who attend to the nature of his assertions and to the course of his argument, will find that there is no room for doubt on this subject. The primary principle on which his
argument rests precludes all ground for mistaking his meaning. He assumes that the law demands perfect obedience, and as no man can render that obedience, he infers that no man can be justified by the law. He does not argue, that because the law is spiritual, it cannot be satisfied by mere ceremonies, or by works flowing from an impure motive. He nowhere says, that though we cannot be justified by external rites, or by works having the mere form of goodness, we are justified by our sincere, though imperfect, obedience. On the contrary, he constantly teaches, that since we are sinners, and since the law condemns all sin, it condemns us, and justification by the law is, therefore, impossible. This argument he applies to the Jews and the Gentiles without distinction, to the whole world, whether they knew anything of the Jewish Scriptures or not. It was the moral law, the law which he pronounced holy, just, and good, which says, 'Thou shalt not covet'; it is this law, however revealed, whether in the writings of Moses, or in the human heart, of which he constantly asserts that it cannot give life, or teach the way of acceptance with God. As most of those to whom he wrote had enjoyed a Divine revelation, and as that revelation included the law of Moses and all its rites, he of course included that law in his statement, and often specially refers to it; but never in its limited sense, as a code of religious ceremonies, but always in its widest scope, as including the highest rule of moral duty made known to men. And hence he never contrasts one class of works with another, but constantly works and faith, excluding all classes of the former, works of righteousness as well as those of mere formality. 'Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us' (Titus 3.5). 'Who hath saved us--not according to our works (2 Tm. 1.9). We are saved by faith, not by works (Eph. 2.9). Nay, men are said to be justified without works; to be in themselves ungodly when justified; and it is not until they are justified that they perform any real good works. It is only when united to Christ that we bring forth fruit unto God. Hence, we are said to be 'His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works' (Eph. 2.10). All the inward excellence of the Christian and the fruit of the Spirit are the consequences, and not the causes of his reconciliation and acceptance with God. They are the robe of beauty, the white garment, with which Christ arrays those who come to him poor, and blind, and naked. It is, then, the plain doctrine of the word of God, that our justification is not founded upon our own obedience to the law. Nothing done by us or wrought in us can for a moment stand the test of a rule of righteousness, which pronounces a curse upon all those who continue not in all things written in the book of the law to do them.
 
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Lately, the sheer number of posts which explicitly and implicitly state that Jesus saves only those who keep the law has been astounding. Most of those claiming such don't claim moral perfection, but quite frankly, I would have less of a problem with them if they did, because there is no such animal as imperfect obedience.

Does God accept "imperfect obedience"?

Does Christ save only those who obey the law?
Check this out by Charles Hodge--Justification of the Sinner!

What kind of works do the Scriptures mean to exclude as the foundation for acceptance with God? Does the apostle mean works in the widest sense, or does he merely intend ceremonial observances, or works of mere formality, performed without any real love to God?

Those who attend to the nature of his assertions and to the course of his argument, will find that there is no room for doubt on this subject. The primary principle on which his
argument rests precludes all ground for mistaking his meaning. He assumes that the law demands perfect obedience, and as no man can render that obedience, he infers that no man can be justified by the law. He does not argue, that because the law is spiritual, it cannot be satisfied by mere ceremonies, or by works flowing from an impure motive. He nowhere says, that though we cannot be justified by external rites, or by works having the mere form of goodness, we are justified by our sincere, though imperfect, obedience. On the contrary, he constantly teaches, that since we are sinners, and since the law condemns all sin, it condemns us, and justification by the law is, therefore, impossible. This argument he applies to the Jews and the Gentiles without distinction, to the whole world, whether they knew anything of the Jewish Scriptures or not. It was the moral law, the law which he pronounced holy, just, and good, which says, 'Thou shalt not covet'; it is this law, however revealed, whether in the writings of Moses, or in the human heart, of which he constantly asserts that it cannot give life, or teach the way of acceptance with God. As most of those to whom he wrote had enjoyed a Divine revelation, and as that revelation included the law of Moses and all its rites, he of course included that law in his statement, and often specially refers to it; but never in its limited sense, as a code of religious ceremonies, but always in its widest scope, as including the highest rule of moral duty made known to men. And hence he never contrasts one class of works with another, but constantly works and faith, excluding all classes of the former, works of righteousness as well as those of mere formality. 'Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us' (Titus 3.5). 'Who hath saved us--not according to our works (2 Tm. 1.9). We are saved by faith, not by works (Eph. 2.9). Nay, men are said to be justified without works; to be in themselves ungodly when justified; and it is not until they are justified that they perform any real good works. It is only when united to Christ that we bring forth fruit unto God. Hence, we are said to be 'His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works' (Eph. 2.10). All the inward excellence of the Christian and the fruit of the Spirit are the consequences, and not the causes of his reconciliation and acceptance with God. They are the robe of beauty, the white garment, with which Christ arrays those who come to him poor, and blind, and naked. It is, then, the plain doctrine of the word of God, that our justification is not founded upon our own obedience to the law. Nothing done by us or wrought in us can for a moment stand the test of a rule of righteousness, which pronounces a curse upon all those who continue not in all things written in the book of the law to do them.
 
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He only was sent to save the lost sheep of Israel. The law was given to Israel. Does this mean he only saves those that abide in the law? Yes and no. No one can completely fulfill the law, aside from Jesus. So your question, was does he accept imperfect obedience? That's all that he accepts. If you don't even TRY to abide, then you're a practicer of iniquity, and he will say depart from me in the end times. If you try your best to uphold the law, but obviously fail seeing as you're just a man, but place your faith for salvation on him, then you will be saved. That's exactly the type of person he has come to save. One that tries to be perfect IN the law, not perfect BY the law. 1 John 3:7

The difference is when you try to perfectly follow the law (obviously you'll fail) but you desiring to follow it, is how you show God, and the world your love for God. It's why that pesky verse, faith without works is dead exists. The law are the works. Will those works save you? No, hence us needing a savior, but those works, are the works of God. The fact that you desire to do them, shows that his seed resides in you, and that you are his child.
Here's another gem from Charles Hodge:

The Demands Of The Law Are Satisfied By What Christ Has Done.

WE have thus seen that the Scriptures teach, first, That all men are naturally under the law as prescribing the terms of their acceptance with God; and, secondly, That no obedience which sinners can render is sufficient to satisfy the demands of that law. It follows, then, that unless we are freed from the law, not as a rule of duty, but as prescribing the conditions of acceptance with God, justification is for us impossible. It is, therefore, the third great point of scriptural doctrine on this subject, that believers are free from the law in the sense just stated. 'Ye are not under the law,' says the apostle, 'but under grace' (Rom.6.14). To illustrate this declaration, he refers to the case of a woman who is bound to her husband as long as he lives; but when he is dead, she is free from her obligation to him, and is at liberty to marry another man. So we are delivered from the law as a rule of justification and are at liberty to embrace a different method of obtaining acceptance with God (Rom. 7.1-6). Paul says of himself, that he had died to the law; that is, become free from it (Gal. 2.19). And the same is said of all believers (Rom. 7.6). He insists upon this freedom as essential not only to justification, but to sanctification. For while under the law, the motions of sins, which were by the law, brought forth fruit unto death; but now we are delivered from the law, that we may serve God in newness of spirit (Rom. 7.5-6). Before faith came we were kept under the law, which he compares to a schoolmaster, but now we are no longer under a schoolmaster (Gal. 3.24, 25). He regards the desire to be subject to the law as the greatest infatuation. 'Tell me,' he says, 'ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?' and then shows that those who are under the demands of a legal system, are in the condition of slaves, and not of sons and heirs. 'Stand fast therefore,' he exhorts, 'in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free.--Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing. For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace (Gal. 4.21-1; 5.1-4). This infatuation Paul considered madness, and exclaims, 'O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth crucified among you. This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith ?' (Gal. 3.1-2). This apostasy was so fatal, the substitution of legal obedience for the work of Christ as the ground of justification was so destructive, that Paul pronounces accursed any man or angel who should preach such a doctrine for the gospel of the grace of God.

It was to the law, as revealed in the books of Moses, that the fickle Galatians were disposed to look for justification. Their apostasy, however, consisted in going back to the law, no matter in what form revealed--to works, no matter of what kind, as the ground of justification. .The apostle's arguments and denunciations, therefore, are so framed as to apply to the adoption of any form of legal obedience, instead of the work of Christ, as the ground of our confidence towards God. To suppose that all he says relates exclusively to a relapse into Judaism, is to suppose that we Gentiles have no part in the redemption of Christ. If it was only from the bondage of the Jewish economy that he redeemed his people, then those who were never subject to that bondage have no interest in his work. And of course Paul was strangely infatuated in preaching Christ crucified to the Gentiles. We find, however, that what he taught in the Epistle to the Galatians, in special reference to the law of Moses he teaches in the Epistle to the Romans in reference to that law which is holy, just, and good, and which condemns the most secret sins of the heart.

The nature of the apostle's doctrine is, if possible, even more clear from the manner in which he vindicates it, than from his direct assertions. 'What then?' he asks, 'shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid' (Rom. 6.15). Had Paul taught that we are freed from the ceremonial in order to be subject to the moral law, there could have been no room for such an objection. But if he taught that the moral law itself could not give life, that we must be freed from its demands as the condition of acceptance with God, then, indeed, to the wise of this world, it might seem that he was loosing the
bands of moral obligation, and opening the door to the greatest licentiousness. Hence the frequency and earnestness with which he repels the objection, and shows that, so far from legal bondage being necessary to holiness, it must cease before holiness can exist; that it is not until the curse of the law is removed, and the soul reconciled to God, that holy affections rise in the heart, and the fruits of holiness appear in the life, 'Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law' (Rom. 2.31).

It is then clearly the doctrine of the Bible, that believers are freed from the law as prescribing the conditions of their acceptance with God; it is no longer incumbent upon them, in order to justification, to fulfil its demand of perfect obedience, or to satisfy its penal exactions. But how is this deliverance effected? How is it that rational and accountable beings are exempted from the obligations of that holy and just law, which was originally imposed upon their race as the rule of justification ? The answer to this question incudes the fourth great truth respecting the way of salvation taught in the Scriptures. It is not by the abrogation of the law, either as to its precepts or penalty; it is not by lowering its demands, and accommodating them to the altered capacities or inclinations of men. We have seen how constantly the apostle teaches that the law still demands perfect obedience, and that they are debtors to do the whole law who seek justification at its hands. He no less clearly teaches, that death is as much the wages of sin in our case, as it was in that of Adam. If it is neither by abrogation nor relaxation that we are freed from the demands of the law, how has this deliverance been effected! By the mystery of vicarious obedience and suffering. This is the gospel of the grace of God. This is what was a scandal to the Jews, and foolishness to the Greeks; but, to those that are called, the power of God and the wisdom of God (1 Cor. 1.23, 24).

The Scriptures teach us that the Son of God, the brightness of the Father's glory, and the express image of his person, who thought it not robbery to be equal with God, became flesh, and subjected himself to the very law to which we were bound; that he perfectly obeyed that law, and suffered its penalty, and thus, by satisfying its demands, delivered us from its bondage, and introduced us into the glorious liberty of the sons of God. It is thus that the doctrine of redemption is presented in the Scriptures. 'God,' says the apostle, 'sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, to redeem them that were under the law' (Gal. 4.4-5). Being made under the law, we know that he obeyed it perfectly, and brought in everlasting righteousness, and is therefore declared to be 'the Lord our righteousness,'(Jer. 23.6) since, by his obedience, many are constituted righteous (Rom. 5.19). He, therefore, is said to be made righteousness unto us (1 Cor. 1.30). And those who are in him are said to be righteous before God, not having their own righteousness, but that which is through the faith of Christ (Phil. 3.9).

That we are redeemed from the curse of the law by Christ's enduring that curse in our place, is taught in every variety of form from the beginning to the end of the Bible. There was the more need that this point should be dearly and variously presented, because it is the one on which an enlightened conscience immediately fastens. The desert of death begets the fear of death. And this fear of death cannot be allayed, until it is seen how, in consistency with Divine justice, we are freed from the righteous penalty of the law. How this is done, the Scriptures teach in the most explicit manner. 'Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us' (Gal. 3.13). Paul had just said, 'As many as are of the works of the law are under the curse.' But all men are naturally under the law, and therefore all are under the curse. How are we redeemed from it? By Christ's being made a curse for us. Such is the simple and sufficient answer to this most important of all questions.

The doctrine so plainly taught in Gal. 3.13, that Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law by bearing it in our stead, is no less clearly presented in 2 Cor. 5. 21: ' He hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him,' This is represented as the only ground on which men are authorized to preach the gospel. 'We are ambassadors for Christ,' says the apostle, ' as though God did beseech you by us;: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God' (2 Cor. 5.20). Then follows a statement of the ground upon which this offer of reconciliation is presented. God has made effectual provision for the pardon of sin, by making Christ, though holy, harmless, and separate from sinners, sin for us, that we might be made righteous in him. The iniquities of us all were laid on him; he was treated as a sinner in our place, in order that we might be treated as righteous in him.

The same great truth is taught in all those passages in which Christ is said to bear our sins. The expression, to bear sin, is one which is clearly explained by its frequent occurrence in the sacred Scriptures. It means, to bear the punishment due to sin. In Lev. xx. 17, it is said that he that marries his sister 'shall bear his iniquity.' Again, ' Whosoever curseth his God, shall bear his sin' (Lev. 24.15). Of him that failed to keep the Passover, it was said, 'That man shall bear his sin' (Num. 9.13). If a man sin, he shall bear his iniquity. It is used in the same sense when one man is spoken of as bearing the sin of another. 'Your children shall wander in the wilderness forty years, and bear your whoredoms' (Num. 14.33). Our fathers have sinned, and are not; and we have borne their iniquities' (Lam. 5.7). And when, in Ezekiel xvii. to, it is said that 'the son shall not bear the iniquity of the father,' it is obviously meant that the son shall not be punished for the sins of the father. The meaning of this expression being thus definite, of course there can be no doubt as to the manner in which it is to be understood when used in reference to the Redeemer. The prophet says, 'The Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.--My righteous servant shall justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.--He was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many' (Isa. 53.6, 11, 122). Language more explicit could not be used. This whole chapter is designed to teach one great truth, that our sins were to be laid on the Messiah, that we might be freed from the punishment which we deserved. It is therefore said, 'He was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities; the chastisement of our peace was upon him.--For the transgression of my people was he stricken.' In the New Testament, the same doctrine is taught in the same terms. 'Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree' (1 Pet. 2.24). 'Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many' (Heb. 9.28). 'Ye know that he was manifested to take away' (to bare) 'our sins' (1 Jn. 3.5). According to all these representations, Christ saves us from the punishment due to our sins, by bearing the curse of the law in OUR stead.

Intimately associated with the passages just referred to, are those which describe the
Redeemer as a sacrifice or propitiation. The essential idea of a sin offering is propitiation by means of vicarious punishment. That this is the scriptural idea of a sacrifice is plain from the laws of their institution, from the effects ascribed to them, and from the illustrative declarations of the sacred writers. The law prescribed that the offender should bring the victim to the altar, lay his hands upon its head, make confession of his crime; and that the animal should then be slain, and its blood sprinkled upon the altar. Thus, it is said, 'He shall put his hand upon the head of the burnt offering, and it shall be accepted for him to make atonement for him' (Lev. 1.4) 'And he brought the bullock for the sin offering; and Aaron and his sons laid their hands upon the head of the bullock for the sin offering' (Lev. 8.14). The import of this imposition of hands is clearly taught in the following passage: 'And Aaron shall lay both his hands upon the head of the live goat, and confess over him all the iniquities of the children of Israel, and all their transgressions in all their sins, putting them upon the head of the goat; and the goat shall bear upon him all their iniquities unto a land not inhabited' (Lev. 16.21 22). The imposition of hands, therefore, was designed to express symbolically the ideas of substitution and transfer the liability to punishment. In the case just referred to, in order to convey more clearly the idea of the removal of the liability to punishment, the goat on whose head the sins of the people were imposed, was sent into the wilderness, but another goat was slain and consumed in its stead.

The nature of these offerings is further obvious from the effects attributed to them. They were commanded in order to make atonement, to propitiate, to make reconciliation, to secure the forgiveness of sins. And this effect they actually secured. In the case of every Jewish offender, some penalty connected with the theocratical constitution under which he lived, was removed by the presentation and acceptance of the appointed sacrifice. This was all the effect, in the way of securing pardon, that the blood of bulls and of goats could produce. Their efficacy was confined to the purifying of the flesh, and to securing, for those who offered them, the advantages of the external theocracy. Besides, however, this efficacy, which, by Divine appointment, belonged to them considered in themselves, they were intended to prefigure and predict the true atoning sacrifice which was to be offered when the fulness of time should come. Nothing, however, can more clearly illustrate the scriptural doctrine of sacrifices, than the expressions employed by the sacred writers to convey the same idea as that intended by the term sin offering. Thus, all that Isaiah taught by saying of the Messiah that the chastisement of our peace was upon him; that with his stripes we are healed; that he was stricken for the transgression of the people; that on him was laid the iniquity of us all, and that he bore the sins of many, he taught by saying, 'he made his soul an offering for sin.' And in the Epistle to the Hebrews it is said, He 'was once offered' (as a sacrifice) 'to bear the sins of many' (Heb. 9.28). The same idea, therefore, is expressed by saying, either he bore our sins, or he was made an offering for sin. But to bear the sins of anyone, means to bear the punishment of those sins; and, therefore, to be a sin offering conveys the same meaning.

Such being the idea of a sacrifice which pervades the whole Jewish Scriptures, it is obvious that the sacred writers could not teach more distinctly and intelligibly the manner in which Christ secures the pardon of sin, than by saying he was made an offering for sin. With this mode of pardon all the early readers of the Scriptures were familiar. They had been accustomed to it from their earliest years. No one of them could recall the time when the altar, the victim, and the blood were unknown to him. His first lessons in religion contained the ideas of confession of sin, substitution, and vicarious sufferings and death. When, therefore, the inspired penmen told men imbued with these ideas that Christ was a propitiation for sin, that he was offered as a sacrifice to make reconciliation, they told them, in the plainest of all terms, that he secures the pardon of our sins by suffering in our stead. Jews could understand such language in no other way: and, therefore, we may be sure it was intended to convey no other meaning. And, in point of fact, it has been so understood by the Christian church from its first organization to the present day.

If it were merely in the way of casual allusion that Christ was declared to be a sacrifice, we should not be authorized to infer from it the method of redemption. But this is far from being the case. This doctrine is presented in the most didactic form. It is exhibited in every possible mode. It is asserted, illustrated, vindicated. It is made the central point of all Divine institutions and instructions. It is urged as the foundation of hope, as the source of consolation, the motive to obedience. It is, in fact, THE GOSPEL. It would be vain to attempt a reference to all the passages in which this great doctrine is taught. We are told that God set forth Jesus Christ as a propitiation for our sins through faith in his blood (Rom. 3.25). Again, he is declared to be a 'propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world' (1 Jn. 2.2). He is called the Lamb of God, which taketh away' (beareth) 'the sin of the world' (Jn. 1.29). 'Ye were not redeemed,' says the apostle Peter, 'with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; but with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot' 1 Pet. 1.18,19). In the Epistle to the Hebrews, this doctrine is more fully exhibited than in any other portion of Scripture. Christ is not only repeatedly called a sacrifice, but an elaborate comparison is made between the offering which he presented and the sacrifices which were offered under the old dispensation. 'If the blood of bulls and of goats,' says the apostle, 'and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh, how much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself with out spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God!' (Heb. 9.13,14). The ancient sacrifices in themselves could only remove ceremonial uncleanness. They could not purge the conscience, or reconcile the soul to God. They were mere shadows of the true sacrifice for sins. Hence, they were offered daily. Christ's sacrifice being really efficacious, was offered but once. It was because the ancient sacrifices were ineffectual, that Christ said, when he came into the world, 'Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me; in burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure. Then said I, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God' (Heb. 10.5-15). 'By the which will', adds the apostle, that is, by the accomplishing the purpose of God, 'we are sanctified' (or atoned for) 'through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all'; and by that 'one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified,' and of all this he adds, the Holy Ghost is witness (Heb. 10.5-15). The Scriptures, therefore, clearly teach that Jesus Christ delivers us from the punishment of our sins, by offering himself as a sacrifice in our behalf; that as under the old dispensation, the penalties attached to the violations of the theocratical covenant, were removed by the substitution and sacrifice of
bulls and of goats, so under the spiritual theocracy, in the living temple of the living God, the punishment of sin is removed by the substitution and death of the Son of God. As no ancient Israelite, when by transgression he had forfeited his liberty of access to the earthly sanctuary, was ignorant of the mode of atonement and reconciliation; so now, no conscience-stricken sinner, who knows that he is unworthy to draw near to God, need be ignorant of that new and living way which Christ hath consecrated for us, through his flesh, so that we have boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus.

In all the forms of expression mentioned--Christ was made a curse for us; he was made sin for us; he bore our sins, he was made a sin offering--there is the idea of substitution. Christ took our place, he suffered in our stead, he acted as our representative. But as the act of a substitute is in effect the act of the principal, all that Christ did and suffered in that character, every believer is regarded as having done and suffered. The attentive and pious reader of the Bible will recognize this idea in some of the most common forms of scriptural expression. Believers are those who are in Christ. This is their great distinction and most familiar designation. They are so united to him, that what he did in their behalf they are declared to have done. When he died, they died; when he rose, they rose; as he lives, they shall live also. The passages in which believers are said to have died in Christ are very numerous. 'If one died for all,' says the apostle, 'then all died' (not, 'were dead') (2 Cor. 5.14). He that died (with Christ) is justified from sin, that is, freed from its condemnation and power; and if we died with Christ, we believe, that we shall live with him (Rom. 6. 7, 8). As a woman is freed by death from her husband, so believers are freed from the law by the body (the death) of Christ, because his death is in effect their death (Rom. 7.4). And in the following verse, he says, having died (in Christ), we are freed from the law. Every believer, therefore, may say with Paul, I was crucified with Christ (Gal. 2.20). In like manner, the resurrection of Christ secures both the spiritual life and future resurrection of all his people. If we have been united to him in his death, we shall be in his resurrection, if we died with him, we shall live with him (Rom.6.5, 8). 'God,' says the apostle, 'hath quickened us together with Christ; and hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus' (Eph.2.4-6). That is, God hath quickened, raised, and exalted us together with Christ. It is on this ground, also, that Paul says that Christ rose as the firstfruits of the dead; not merely the first in order, but the earnest and security of the resurrection of his people. 'For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive' (1 Cor. 15.20, 22). As our union with Adam secures our death, union with Christ secures our resurrection. Adam is a type of him that was to come--that is, Christ, inasmuch as the relation in which Adam stood to the whole race, is analogous to that in which Christ stands to his own people. As Adam was our natural head, the poison of sin flows in all our veins. As Christ is our spiritual Head, eternal life which is in him, descends to all his members. It is not they that live, but Christ that liveth in them (Gal. 2.20). This doctrine of the representative and vital union of Christ and believers pervades the New Testament. It is the source of the humility, the joy, the confidence which the sacred writers so often express. In themselves they were nothing, and deserved nothing, but in Him they possessed all things. Hence, they counted all things but loss that they might be found in Him. Hence, they determined to know nothing, to preach nothing, to glory in nothing, but Christ and him crucified.

The great doctrine of the vicarious sufferings and death of Jesus Christ, is further taught in those numerous passages which refer our salvation to his blood, his death, or his cross. Viewed in connexion with the passages already mentioned, those now referred to not only teach the fact that the death of Christ secures the pardon of sin, but how it does it. To this class belong such declarations as the following: 'The blood of Jesus Christ cleanseth us from all sin' (1 Jn. 1.7). 'We have redemption through his blood' (Eph. 1.7). He has 'made peace through the blood of his cross' (Col. 1.20). 'Being now justified by his blood' (Rom. 5.9). Ye 'are made nigh by the blood of Christ' (Eph. 2.13). 'Ye are come--to the blood of sprinkling' (Heb. 12.22, 24). 'Elect--unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ' (1 Pet. 1.2). 'Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood' (Rev. 1.5). 'He hath redeemed us unto God by his blood' (Rev. 5.9) 'This cup,' said the Son of God himself, 'is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for many for the remission of sins' (Mt. 26.28). The sacrificial character of the death of Christ is taught in all these passages. Blood was the means of atonement, and without the shedding of blood there was no remission; and, therefore, when our salvation is so often ascribed to the blood of the Savior, it is declared that he died as a propitiation for our sins.

The same remark may be made in reference to those passages which ascribe our redemption to the death, the cross, the flesh of Christ; for these terms are interchanged, as being of the same import. We are 'reconciled to God by the death of his Son' (Rom. 5.10). We are reconciled his cross. (Eph. 2.16). We are 'reconciled in the body of his flesh through death' (Col. 1.21, 22). We are delivered from the law 'by the body of Christ' (Rom. 7.4); he abolished the law in his flesh (Eph. 2.15); he took away the handwriting which was against us, nailing it to his cross (Col. 2.14). The more general expressions respecting Christ's dying for us, receive a definite meaning from their connexion with the more specific passages above mentioned. Everyone, therefore, knows what is meant, when it is said that ' Christ died for the ungodly' (Rom. 5.6); that he gave himself ' a ransom for many' (Mt. 20.28); that he died 'the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God' (1 Pet. 3.18). Not less plain is the meaning of the Holy Spirit when it is said, God 'spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all' (Rom. 8.32); that he 'was delivered for our offences' (Rom. 4.25); that he 'gave himself for our sins' (Gal. 1.4).

Seeing, then, that we owe everything to the expiatory sufferings of the blessed Savior, we cease to wonder that the cross is rendered so prominent in the exhibition of the plan of salvation. We are not surprised at Paul's anxiety lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect; or that he should call the preaching of the gospel the preaching of the cross; or that he should preach Christ crucified, both to Jews and Creeks, as the wisdom of God and the power of Cod; or that he should determine to glory in nothing save in the cross of Christ.

As there is no truth more necessary to be known, so there is none more variously or plainly taught, than the method of escaping the wrath of God due to us for sin. Besides all the clear exhibitions of Christ as bearing our sins, as dying in our stead, as making his soul an offering for sin, as redeeming us by his blood, the Scriptures set him forth in the character of a Priest, in order that we might more fully understand how it is that he effects our salvation. It was predicted, long before his advent, that the Messiah was to be a Priest. 'Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek,' was the declaration of the Holy Spirit by the mouth of David (Ps. 110.4). Zechariah predicted that he should sit as 'a priest upon his throne (Zech. 6.13). The apostle defines a priest to be a man 'ordained for men in things pertaining to God, that he may offer both gifts and sacrifices for sins (Heb. 5.1). Jesus Christ is the only real Priest in the universe. All others were either pretenders, or the shadow of the great High priest of our profession. For this office he had every necessary qualification. He was a man. 'For inasmuch as the children were partakers of flesh and blood, he also took part of the same, in order that he might be a merciful and faithful High Priest; one who can be touched with a sense of our infirmities, seeing that was tempted in all points like as we are, yet without sin.' He was sinless. 'For such a High Priest became us, who was holy, harmless, and separate from sinners.' He was the Son of God. The law made men having infirmity, priests. But God declared his Son to be a Priest, who is consecrated for evermore (Heb. 7.28). The sense in which Christ is declared to be the Son of God, is explained in the first chapter of the Epistle to the Hebrews. It is there said, that he is the express image of God; that he upholds all things by the word of his power; that all the angels are commanded to worship him; that his throne is an everlasting throne; that in the beginning he laid the foundations of the earth; that he is from everlasting and that his years fail not. It is from the dignity of his person, as possessing this Divine nature, that the apostle deduces the efficacy of his sacrifice (Heb. 9.14), the perpetuity of his priesthood (Heb. 7.16), and his ability to save to the uttermost all who come unto God by him (Heb. 7.25). He was duly constituted a Priest. He glorified not himself to be made a High Priest; but he that said unto him, 'Thou art my Son,' said also, 'Thou art a Priest for ever.' He is the only real Priest, and therefore his advent superseded all others, and put an immediate end to all their lawful ministrations, by abolishing the typical dispensation with which they were connected. For the priesthood being changed, there was of necessity a change of the law. There was a disannulling of the former commandment for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof, and there was the introduction of a better hope (Heb. 7.12, 18, 19). He has an appropriate offering to present. As every high priest is appointed to offer sacrifices, it was necessary that this man should have somewhat to offer. This sacrifice was not the blood of goats or of calves, but his own blood; it was himself he offered unto God, to purge our conscience from dead works (Heb. 9.12, 14). He has 'put away sin by the sacrifice of himself,' which was accomplished when he was 'once offered to bear the sin of many (Heb. 9.26, 28). He has passed into the heavens. As the high priest was required to enter into the most holy place with the blood of atonement, so Christ has entered not into the holy places made with hands, 'but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us, (Heb. 9.24) and where 'he ever lives to make intercession for us (Heb. 7.25).

Seeing then we have a great High Priest that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God (let the reader remember what that means), who is set down on the right hand of the Majesty on high, having by himself purged out sins and made reconciliation for the sins of the people, every humble believer who commits his soul into the hands of this High Priest, may come with boldness to the throne of grace, assured that he shall find mercy and grace to help in time of need.
 
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Check this out by Charles Hodge--Justification of the Sinner!

What kind of works do the Scriptures mean to exclude as the foundation for acceptance with God? Does the apostle mean works in the widest sense, or does he merely intend ceremonial observances, or works of mere formality, performed without any real love to God?

Those who attend to the nature of his assertions and to the course of his argument, will find that there is no room for doubt on this subject. The primary principle on which his
argument rests precludes all ground for mistaking his meaning. He assumes that the law demands perfect obedience, and as no man can render that obedience, he infers that no man can be justified by the law. He does not argue, that because the law is spiritual, it cannot be satisfied by mere ceremonies, or by works flowing from an impure motive. He nowhere says, that though we cannot be justified by external rites, or by works having the mere form of goodness, we are justified by our sincere, though imperfect, obedience. On the contrary, he constantly teaches, that since we are sinners, and since the law condemns all sin, it condemns us, and justification by the law is, therefore, impossible. This argument he applies to the Jews and the Gentiles without distinction, to the whole world, whether they knew anything of the Jewish Scriptures or not. It was the moral law, the law which he pronounced holy, just, and good, which says, 'Thou shalt not covet'; it is this law, however revealed, whether in the writings of Moses, or in the human heart, of which he constantly asserts that it cannot give life, or teach the way of acceptance with God. As most of those to whom he wrote had enjoyed a Divine revelation, and as that revelation included the law of Moses and all its rites, he of course included that law in his statement, and often specially refers to it; but never in its limited sense, as a code of religious ceremonies, but always in its widest scope, as including the highest rule of moral duty made known to men. And hence he never contrasts one class of works with another, but constantly works and faith, excluding all classes of the former, works of righteousness as well as those of mere formality. 'Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us' (Titus 3.5). 'Who hath saved us--not according to our works (2 Tm. 1.9). We are saved by faith, not by works (Eph. 2.9). Nay, men are said to be justified without works; to be in themselves ungodly when justified; and it is not until they are justified that they perform any real good works. It is only when united to Christ that we bring forth fruit unto God. Hence, we are said to be 'His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works' (Eph. 2.10). All the inward excellence of the Christian and the fruit of the Spirit are the consequences, and not the causes of his reconciliation and acceptance with God. They are the robe of beauty, the white garment, with which Christ arrays those who come to him poor, and blind, and naked. It is, then, the plain doctrine of the word of God, that our justification is not founded upon our own obedience to the law. Nothing done by us or wrought in us can for a moment stand the test of a rule of righteousness, which pronounces a curse upon all those who continue not in all things written in the book of the law to do them.

I never once said that those works save us. Not once. I said exactly the opposite. Several, several times.

"One that tries to be perfect IN the law, not perfect BY the law."

The difference is when you try to perfectly follow the law (obviously you'll fail) but you desiring to follow it, is how you show God, and the world your love for God. It's why that pesky verse, faith without works is dead exists. The law are the works. Will those works save you? No, hence us needing a savior, but those works, are the works of God. The fact that you desire to do them, shows that his seed resides in you, and that you are his child.

I'm not. NOT. Saying that works save. Never did. Why? Because the bible says they don't. Just as Abraham was saved by his faith in God. He still kept his circumcision as a sign for salvation. Just as we keep the law, not for salvation, but as a sign of our salvation.

Abraham was justified by faith, but yet we still learn about him in Genesis 26:5 that he kept the laws.

Also, as I stated, Jesus will say depart from me, you workers of iniquity. Iniquity in the original greek text was the greek word "anomia" which literally means one without law, or practicer of lawlessness for one of two reasons - one, by choice. Or two, by ignorance.

Again. No. The law will not save you. But you saying you're saved, and confessing Christ, alone, will not save you either. It's the combining of a legitimate faith in God (Christ) and also, you in your heart, desiring to follow and obey his Torah. As God said, Jeremiah 31:33 "on their hearts" simply means, it's in their desire to do that which they are commanded in the law, but because of our sinful nature we will walk as did Paul Romans 7:19. This is why we need a savior, because the only way we can be saved is by perfectly walking in the law - and since it's impossible, Christ sacrificed himself so that our punishments were fulfilled in Him, meaning that we no longer have to be perfect in it. But, it does not do away with the law. He even himself says this - Matthew 5:17. Heaven and earth still haven't passed away, so I'm pretty sure that the law still exists, especially since he says those without the law he'll say to depart from him.
 
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By the phrase "being perfect IN the law" I was referring to God telling Abraham this Genesis 17:1. We then again, learn in Genesis 26:5, that he obeyed the laws. How can he be perfect? He obeyed the law? Wasn't Christ the only one to be perfect? Wasn't Jesus the only one to have followed the law perfectly? Yes, and yes. But, again, that verse I linked that you tried to say I was misrepresenting - 1 John 3:7 - even as the verse says, don't let anyone lead you astray. So, try as you may, you won't lead me astray. The scripture tells us what I'm telling you very, very, plainly.

If you place your faith for salvation in God, but you still try to do his works (the law) you are righteous. Period. Not because of your works, but because of your faith. But your attempt to uphold the works that are of God, proves that the seed that is in you, is of God, and not of the devil. There are two seeds. The tree of life, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Which seed are you bearing? Which works do you show?
 
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I am talking about how a sinner is justified before a Holy God. The Christian life comes after we have been reconciled to God in Christ through Faith.

I ask you to please explain Titus 3:5, and hope you do not try to twist it into something else.

Titus 3:5he saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit, 6whom he poured out on us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior, 7so that being justified by his grace we might become heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

Hello,

I completely agree that we are justified by faith and not by works, and the fact that you've been trying to argue for that position leads me to believe that I have not been communicating clearly, for which I apologize. There is a world of difference between saying that we are required to obey God's laws and saying that we are required to obey God's laws in order to become justified, and I have been arguing the former and have never suggested the latter. God had may reasons for giving His Law, but providing the means of becoming justified was never one of them, so the one and only way that there has ever been to become justified is by grace through faith. According to Jeremiah 6:16-19 and Matthew 11:28-30, the Law is the good way where we will find rest for our souls, so perverting the Law into something that we need to obey perfectly in order to become justified robs our souls of the rest that it was intended to give. God has always wanted a relationship with His people based on faith and love, and His Law is His instructions for how to grow in that relationship, and we have received grace in order to bring about the obedience to these instructions that faith requires (Romans 1:6).

Scratching my head. Okay you said that Christ did not free us from the curse of the Law? Read what Paul says here.

I completely agree that Christ set us free from the curse of the Law, however, as I stated, Christ did not set us free from the Law. God's Law is holy, righteous, and good, so we should not even desire to be free from something that has those attributes and God had no reason to free us from having to obey His commands. The curse of the Law is Lawlessness or practicing disobedience to the Law and Jesus gave himself to set us free from sin or from practicing disobedience to the Law so that we could be free to live for God and enjoy the blessing of the Law by practicing obedience to it. When you conflate obedience to God's holy, righteous, and good instructions for how to walk in His ways with being a curse, you are in practice acting as though Paul had said that God's Law is sin in spite of you telling me that you believe that the Law is not sin. Furthermore, it is expressing an extremely negative opinion about God. It is calling God a liar when He said that His commands were for His children's own good to bless them, and essentially saying that He can't be trust to give good laws and that He is actually an unloving father who gave His Law in order to curse all of His children who couldn't not perfectly obey it.


Galatians 3:10 For all who rely on works of the law are under a curse; for it is written, “Cursed be everyone who does not abide by all things written in the Book of the Law, and do them.” 11 Now it is evident that no one is justified before God by the law, for “The righteous shall live by faith.”[d] 12 But the law is not of faith, rather “The one who does them shall live by them.” 13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us—for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who is hanged on a tree”— 14 so that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we might receive the promised Spirit[e] through faith.

The phrase "works of the law" has no definitive article in the Greek, so it literally translates as "works of law", which means that is does not refer to a definitive set of laws, such as the Law of Moses, but rather Paul used it as a catch-all phrase to refer to the large body of Jewish oral laws, rulings, fences, and traditions the existed during the 1st century, which the Pharisees were teaching were needed to be obeyed order to become saved. In Matthew 23:23, Jesus said that faith is one of the weightier matters of the Law and obedience to it is straightforwardly about placing our faith in God to guide us in how to rightly live, while man-made works of law are not of faith. By relying on their own traditions, they were failing to live by faith in God, and thus were under a curse for failing to do everything in the Book of the Law, which is of faith.

So I can sin as much as I want, as long as I repent of it, I'm okay? How does that saying go? "I love to sin, and God loves to forgive."

I have no idea how you got this from what I said, but that shows a fundamental misunderstanding of what it means to repent. It's not about doing whatever we want and saying we sorry in order to avoid the consequences of our actions, but about changing our ways to conform to God's ways.

We can no longer be Perfect in Holiness under the Law. And is why we are under the Law's curse because of sin. So if we think we can provide works to justify ourselves under the Law, is a delusion. Because we have to be Perfect and continue to do everything the Law requires flawlessly. Otherwise we are condemned under its curse!

But wait there is good news for Law Breakers. God sent His Son in the flesh, born under the Law. To not abolish the Law, but to fulfill it. And to condemn sin in the flesh. Why did Christ have to do this? Why fulfill the Law? Why condemn sin in the flesh? Because the penalty still hangs over the heads of Law Breakers! So Christ did, what the first Adam failed to do. And He earned a nation and a Kingdom by fulfilling His Father's Will. Which in turn becomes ours in Him, and Christ becomes sin who knew no sin, so that we will become the Righteousness of God in Him! Christ became a curse for us! That so we could live in Him!

The Law instructs us how to do what holy, but no amount of doing what is holy will making us holy, but rather we are required to follow God's instructions for how to do what is holy because God has made us holy. In 1 Peter 1:13-16, we are told to do what is holy for God is holy, which is a reference to Leviticus, so following those instructions is about acting in accordance with the holiness of our God. The Law itself contains instructions for what to do when it is not kept perfectly, which would have been completely unnecessary if the Law was given to provide the means of becoming justified through perfect obedience. Trying to become justified by obeying the Law completely missed the whole point of it and nowhere in the Bible does it talk about what we will obtain through our own effort if we are perfectly obedience, but rather obedience to God has always been about growing in a relationship with Him. Perfection should be our goal because we love God and have faith in Him to guide us in how to rightly live, so when we fail the consequence is that we need to repent and turn back to God. It is only when we stop repenting that we come under the curse of the Law.

Deu. 7:8but it is because the Lord loves you and is keeping the oath that he swore to your fathers, that the Lord has brought you out with a mighty hand and redeemed you from the house of slavery, from the hand of Pharaoh king of Egypt.

Deu. 9:5Not because of your righteousness or the uprightness of your heart are you going in to possess their land, but because of the wickedness of these nations the Lord your God is driving them out from before you, and that he may confirm the word that the Lord swore to your fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob.

This is God's Covenant that He made with Abraham, of sending a Promised Seed that will save them from the bondage of sin, death & condemnation! The OT is the unfolding redemptive plan of God that is consummated in Christ in the NT. The Law keeps His people in check, until they are freed from it in Christ! Does this mean that the Law is eliminated for the believer? Certainly not! We uphold the Law as Paul says in Romans 3. The Law is no longer a curse for the believer, because Christ is the end of the Law for those who believe!

The Law instructions us how to reflect God's attributes: holiness, righteousness, goodness, justice, mercy, faith, love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, gentleness, and self-control, and Christ did not come to free us from reflecting God's attributes to the world, but to teach us how to reflect them by word and by example, and to free us from the Lawlessness of sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. Either our faith requires us to obey God's Law or it does not, but it is consistent for you to say that through faith in Christ we are set free from needing to obey God's Law and that our faith requires us to obey God's Law (Romans 3:31). When you remove the condemnation from the Mosaic Law, you are left with the blessing of living in obedience to it. Christ did not come to end the blessing of the Law, but rather the goal of the Law is a relationship with Christ for everyone who has faith (Romans 10:4).

What shall we say, then? Is the law sinful? Certainly not! Nevertheless, I would not have known what sin was had it not been for the law. For I would not have known what coveting really was if the law had not said, “You shall not covet.” 8But sin, seizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment, produced in me every kind of coveting. For apart from the law, sin was dead. 9Once I was alive apart from the law; but when the commandment came, sin sprang to life and I died. 10I found that the very commandment that was intended to bring life actually brought death. 11For sin, seizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment, deceived me, and through the commandment put me to death. 12So then, the law is holy, and the commandment is holy, righteous and good.
So what relation does the Law have with sinners, now? To make us conscience of sin. Therefore we now know that we cannot fulfill the Law's requirements, because of sin. The Law only brings death to sinners! But the Law also points us to another, who has come not to abolish the Law, but to fulfill it for us!

The Law makes known what sin is, had it not been for the Law. Paul thought as you do. Paul thought that the Law was intended to bring Life, but actually brought death. Why did Paul say this? Because He finally find out through the Law, he is a sinner!

But Paul knows that in Christ through Faith, he is saved!

Romans 7:4So, my brothers and sisters, you also died to the law through the body of Christ, that you might belong to another, to him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God. 5For when we were in the realm of the flesh, the sinful passions aroused by the law were at work in us, so that we bore fruit for death. 6But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.

The Law makes us conscious of sin, so being required to refrain from sin means that we are required to obey the Law. Again, God said that what He commanded was not too difficult (Deuteronomy 30:11-14) and if you believe God, then your faith also says that it is not difficult (Romans 10:5-10), so the position that we can't fulfills the Law's requirements directly contradicts God and our faith.

Romans 7:13 Did that which is good, then, bring death to me? By no means! It was sin, producing death in me through what is good, in order that sin might be shown to be sin, and through the commandment might become sinful beyond measure.

Paul said that God's Law was good and that what was good did not bring death to him.

Christ is more than just a Moral example to follow. Christ is our Justification, Sanctification, and our Redemption (1 Cor. 1:30).

Union with Christ begins with God's pretemporal decision to save his people in and through Jesus Christ. This union, further, is based on the redemptive work for his people which Christ did in history. Finally, this union is actually established with God's people after they have been born, continues throughout their lives, and has as its goal their eternal glorification in the life to come. We go on, then, to see union with Christ as having its roots in divine election, its basis in the redemptive work of Christ, and its actual establishment with God's people in time. Union between Christ and his people was planned already in eternity, in the sovereign pretemporal decision whereby God the Father selected us as his own. Christ himself was chosen to be our Savior before the creation of the world (1 Pet. 1:20); Ephesians 1:4 teaches us that when the Father chose Christ, he also chose us...We are initially united with Christ in regeneration." [next] "We appropriate and continue to live out of this union through faith. Third, "We are justified in union with Christ."Fourth, "We are sanctified through union with Christ."Fifth, "We persevere in the life of faith in union with Christ." Finally, "We shall be eternally glorified with Christ." - by Anthony Hoekema

Regeneration, faith, conversion, renewal, and the like, often [in the Bible] do not point to successive steps in the way of salvation but rather summarize in a single word the entire change which takes place in a man." - Herman Bavinck

I did not say that Christ was only a moral example.

The good new is not repent and believe. The good news is who Jesus is and what He has done. But people tend to locate their Salvation in their response to the Gospel, rather than in the Gospel itself.

"Union with Christ in his death and resurrection is the element of union which Paul most extensively expounds...if we are united to Christ, then we are united to him at all points of his activity on our behalf. We share in his death (we were baptized into his death), in his resurrection (we are resurrected with Christ), in his ascension (we have been raised with him), in his heavenly session (we sit with him in heavenly places, so that our life is hidden with Christ in God), and we will share in his promised return (when Christ, who is our life, appears, we also will appear with him in glory) (Rom. 6:14; Col. 2:11-12; 3:1-3). This, then, is the foundation of sanctification in Reformed theology. It is rooted, not in humanity and their achievement of holiness or sanctification, but in what God has done in Christ, and for us in union with him. Rather than view Christians first and foremost in the microcosmic context of their own progress, the Reformed doctrine first of all sets them in the macrocosm of God's activity in redemptive history. It is seeing oneself in this context that enables the individual Christian to grow in true holiness."
Sinclair Ferguson from Christian Spirituality: Five Views of Sanctification

Matthew 11:5 the blind receive their sight and the lame walk, lepers are cleansed and the deaf hear, and the dead are raised up, and the poor have good news preached to them.

Luke 4:18 “The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim liberty to the captives and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty those who are oppressed,

Luke 4:43 but he said to them, “I must preach the good news of the kingdom of God to the other towns as well; for I was sent for this purpose.”

Luke 8:1 Soon afterward he went on through cities and villages, proclaiming and bringing the good news of the kingdom of God. And the twelve were with him,

Christ was preaching the good news while he was still alive, and it precisely was to repent for the Kingdom of God is at hand, and we can't grow in holiness apart from repentance. Christ's death and resurrection are a certainly how Jesus would accomplish our reconciliation, but that was not yet included in the good news that he was proclaiming at the start of his ministry.

I am familiar with New Perspective on Paul approach. So do you believe in the 'FINAL JUSTIFICATION' of the believer based on their works? Where can I find in Scripture that Moses had the authority to make interpretations for how to obey God's Law?

In Galatians Paul is preaching about Justification by Faith!

I have never suggested that justification is based on works. In Romans 2:13 says that it is not hearers of the Law who will be justified, but the doers, which notably again does not say that we are justified by being doers of the Law. Rather, the same faith by which we are justified also requires our obedience, so the doers of the Law are the ones who will be justified because they are the ones who have faith in God to guide them in how to rightly live.

I'm no sure why you'd question why Moses had the authority since he acted in this authority throughout the books of Moses. For example, in Exodus 20:19 the people all agree to do what Moses said. In Exodus 18, Moses was delegating this authority on Jethro's advice.

Romans 10:1Brothers,a my heart’s desire and prayer to God for them is that they may be saved. 2For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge. 3For, being ignorant of the righteousness of God, and seeking to establish their own, they did not submit to God’s righteousness. 4For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.

They wanted to establish their own righteousness through the Law. Thinking they can, because they are not sinners, but righteous! The Righteousness of God is only in Christ and received through faith apart from the Law (Romans 4).

In Romans 9:30-Romans 10:10, the reason why Israel failed to obtain righteous not because they did what God commanded them to and God gave them faulty instructions, but rather the reason was that they pursued the Law as though righteousness were by works instead of pursuing the Law as though righteousness were by faith. They were zealous for God, but they zeal was not based upon knowledge because they misunderstood that the goal of obedience to the Law is a relationship with Christ for righteousness for everyone who has faith, and instead thought that the goal of obedience to the Law was to establish their own righteousness. It has always been a fundamental misunderstanding of the Law that it is about trying to become justified and Paul spent a lot of time making the point that the Law is not about trying to become justified and that we are justified by faith apart from the Law, yet many people today are still making that error, only they have compounded their error by concluding that their faith does away with their need to obey the Law, whereas Paul concluding that our faith does not do away with the Law, but rather our faith requires us to obey it (Romans 3:27-31). It does not follow that because we shouldn't obey the Law in order to establish our own righteousness that therefore we shouldn't obey the Law.

I beg to differ. No flesh will be justified through the Law. This doesn't mean we abolish the Law through Faith, rather we uphold the Law! The Law does not bring to the SINNER, only death! Why you do not see this, is the reason why you do not understand what Christ actually accomplished for us!

2 Cor. 5:21For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.

I did not say that we could be justified through the Law, but rather that fulfilling the Law refers to obeying it in the way that it should be obeyed. If you say that your faith upholds the Law, then stop contradicting yourself by also saying that Christ did away with it. Again, Titus 2:14 does not say that Christ gave himself to free us from the Law, but to free us from all Lawlessness, so we have been set free from living in disobedience to the Law and are now free to live in obedience to it. Jesus set us free from sin so that we might obey the Law and meet is righteous requirement (Romans 8:3-4).

Yes Sanctification is part of our Salvation. But this Sanctification has to be Perfect, without blemish. Not just close enough that God can let go! Its either Perfect or not. God will not lower His standard of Holiness to let us in! First you say that the Law is not done away with. But on the another end of your mouth, you say we don't have to be Perfectly holy?

The missing part you need, is Union with Christ. Because being in Christ; having Christ; we have also all the heavenly blessings in Him. Justification, Sanctification and Redemption.

30It is because of him that you are in Christ Jesus, who has become for us wisdom from God—that is, our righteousness, holiness and redemption. 31Therefore, as it is written: “Let the one who boasts boast in the Lord.”

I did not say that we don't have to be holy, but we do not become people who only do what is holy the moment we accept Christ, but rather God makes us holy, so we therefore must be trained by grace through faith to do what is holy in accordance with God's holiness. Christ did not become our righteousness so that we would hide it under a bushel, but so that we would let it shine. He has become our righteousness, therefore we are required to reflect his righteousness to the world through following God's commands for how to do what is righteous and through following Christ's example of obedience to those commands.

Splitting Hairs!!!

The Bible does not use "grace" and "mercy" interchangeably, but rather they are distinct concepts. Nowhere does the Bible say that we are saved by mercy, though God does save us because us His mercy.
 
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