Does Evolution Matter?

[Oncedeceived]

How so? All that the double slit experiment demonstrates is the dual nature of matter. And light too, for that matter. If you let a single photon through at a time it will still form a diffraction pattern. The light interferes with itself as it "goes through both slits at the same time".

If matter is effected by observation as shown in the experiment, it is cohesive with the idea that God's observation of the universe or thought of brings it to form. Can the universe exist outside of God observing it and we as intelligent agents going after God's thoughts?

 

[Davian]

Yes, strawmen are always much easier to counter.

Indeed. I have pointed out your predilection for straw-man arguments on more than a few occasions.

 

[Davian]

Yes, the Double slit experiment. This fits more cohesively with God being outside of His creation and matter being a created element. imho

When your position is unfalsifiable, anything can be made to fit.

 

[Subduction Zone]

If matter is effected by observation as shown in the experiment, it is cohesive with the idea that God's observation of the universe or thought of brings it to form. Can the universe exist outside of God observing it and we as intelligent agents going after God's thoughts?

No, now you are not even properly describing the experiment.

You do not seem to know what happens in the experiment. Observation only affects it when you try to observe individual particles. The problem is that observing particles does affect the motion of that particle when you get to the quantum scale.


If no observations at all are made the same pattern will form if you look at the pattern or not. It is the attempt to observe individual particles before they hit the target that affects the outcome. Not observation in general.

 

[Oncedeceived]

No, now you are not even properly describing the experiment.

You do not seem to know what happens in the experiment. Observation only affects it when you try to observe individual particles. The problem is that observing particles does affect the motion of that particle when you get to the quantum scale.


If no observations at all are made the same pattern will form if you look at the pattern or not. It is the attempt to observe individual particles before they hit the target that affects the outcome. Not observation in general.

https://theobservereffect.wordpress.com/the-most-beautiful-experiment/

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

How has it impacted the Phd biologists in the field and their view of whether evolution happened or not?




Well, you claimed a few posts ago, that Darwin's theory has been discredited, yet, the scientific community seems to think otherwise.

Also, every source you have listed so far (Mcclintock, Nobel) also agree evolution happened, yet you claimed the theory has been discredited. Does this mean, you disagree with your sources and their opinion that evolution happened?

Considering Darwin's work was 150 years ago, likely he did have some things wrong, wouldn't you think?

Now, when it comes to the crux of his theory, it has only been strengthened over time.

You deny this and go against the scientific community, that has had 150 years to blow his theory out of the water and haven't been able to.

So, I ask again; did Nobel and Mcclintock agree or disagree, that evolution happens?

 

[Subduction Zone]

https://theobservereffect.wordpress.com/the-most-beautiful-experiment/

Exactly what I said, thank you.

 

[AV1611VET]

It took some of the magic away, some of the stuff I praised God for.

You praised God for magic?

 

[whois]

i find it extremely odd that no one has decided to debate either of my sources i provided in post 24.

does anyone have any idea why that might be?

 

[crjmurray]

i find it extremely odd that no one has decided to debate either of my sources i provided in post 24.

does anyone have any idea why that might be?

What do you think should be debated?

 

[whois]

What do you think should be debated?

i would assume that both of these sources have been read by someone here.
no one seems to be questioning it.

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

You praised God for magic?

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

What do you think should be debated?

The delicate sound of rain,
before it washes down the drain.
The sound of thunder and lightning,
pounding in my brain.
The feelings of guilt,
after they washed the blood of their hands.
The arc of a diver,
before she plunges to the depths.

The art of life,
it's strange mechanical taste.
The moves of a dancer,
or an eagle in flight.
The way of a man with a maid,
or the smell of fresh ground coffee.

or?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUDoNJq8Dcg

 

[AV1611VET]

The sound of thunder and lightning,

Thunder makes a big impression, but lightning gets the job done.

2 Samuel 22:15 And he sent out arrows, and scattered them; lightning, and discomfited them.

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

Thunder makes a big impression, but lightning gets the job done.

2 Samuel 22:15 And he sent out arrows, and scattered them; lightning, and discomfited them.

I can't think which I like most.

Perhaps thunder is more fun, especially if it's right above the house (and you happen to have a tin roof). I remember being woken up out of deep sleep by thunder like that -- it went right through me and jarred the nuts and bolts in my body. Amazing!

 

[sandybay]

Thunder makes a big impression, but lightning gets the job done.

2 Samuel 22:15 And he sent out arrows, and scattered them; lightning, and discomfited them.

As the song says. You can not have one without the other.

 

[AV1611VET]

I can't think which I like most.

Perhaps thunder is more fun, especially if it's right above the house (and you happen to have a tin roof). I remember being woken up out of deep sleep by thunder like that -- it went right through me and jarred the nuts and bolts in my body. Amazing!

I had an abject fear of storms as a small boy.

Today, I love stormy weather.

 

[AV1611VET]

As the song says. You can not have one without the other.

Indeedy-do!

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

I had an abject fear of storms as a small boy.

Today, I love stormy weather.

Which part of the States, did you grow up in?

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

As the song says. You can not have one without the other.

Are you likening love and marriage to thunder and lightning?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fw8EPOFdBVw

Sound more like Stormy Monday Blues by Jethro Tull.