Does Christ repeat the Sabbath commandment?

[reddogs]

Some claim that the Sabbath doesnt exist anymore because Christ didnt teach it or repeat it as part of the Commandments, so what did Jesus say?

According to the following verse I’d say that Christ had every intention that His Sabbath would still be observed after His death:

Matthew 24:20 - But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

The context of this verse is that Christ was warning the disciples about the destruction of Jerusalem, which occurred in 70 AD at the hands of the Roman army. Christ prophesied that this event would happen and it did (Christ is never wrong). Why would Christ be concerned that people observe the Sabbath day at a time that would have been about 40 years after His death if His death was supposed to abolish it? Simple, He wouldn’t be concerned if that were the case – but since the Sabbath, like all His Commandments last forever, He was very concerned and told them to pray concerning it.

Also, the Holy Spirit expressly calls it the “Sabbath day” in Acts 13:14. Aren’t the words of the Holy Spirit good enough since the Holy Spirit is the one who now convicts us of our sin?

Christ clearly taught that "the sabbath was made for man." Mark 2:27. The fact is that Adam was the only man in existence at the time God made the Sabbath. Jesus was the One who made the Sabbath in the first week of time. There was a reason for His claim to be Lord of the Sabbath day (Mark 2:28). If He is the Lord of the Sabbath day, then the Sabbath must be the Lord's day. John had a vision on "the Lord's day," according to Revelation 1:10. That day had to be the Sabbath. It is the only day so designated and claimed by God in the Bible. In writing the Ten Commandments, God called it "the sabbath of the Lord." Exodus 20:10. In Isaiah He is quoted as saying, "The sabbath, My holy day." (Isaiah 58:13).

We must not overlook the fact that this God who created the world and made the Sabbath was Jesus Christ Himself. John wrote: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.... And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us,(and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father), full of grace and truth." John 1:1-3, 14.

Paul clearly identified Jesus as the Creator, "... his dear Son: In whom we have redemption through his blood.... For by him were all things created." Colossians 1:13-16.
For Christians to separate Jesus from the Sabbath, who made it as the Creator for man, is wrong.

Mary, Christ’s mother, observed the Sabbath “according to the commandment” after Christ’s death.(See Luke 23:56) And I don't think anyone would argue that Mary was most certainly Christian.

The Sabbath commandment did not have to be repeated because the people to whom Jesus Christ and the apostles taught and preached would never have let it cross their minds that it needed to be repeated. It was foremost in their minds every Sabbath.

Jesus Christ and the apostles lived and taught in a culture that definitely knew about and kept the Sabbath. Jesus’ confrontations with the Pharisees were over how to observe the Sabbath, never over whether to observe it as the Pharisees had twisted it with all their oral traditions and rules.

Christ clearly shows He did not abolish it in Matthew 5:17...

"17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil."


Then we see Christ say what people have done in following 'tradition' and not God, Mark 7:6-9...

"6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.
7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition..."

Christ the Creator of man and the Sabbath and Writer of the 10 Commandments with His own finger was the Lord of the Sabbath, and made it for us, Mark 2:27-28.....

"27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:
28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath."

 

[Dave-W]

Reddogs, I have the distinct feeling I already responded to this exact post.

Do you happen to go by the handle "Hobie" over at Grace Centered Forums?

http://www.gracecentered.com/christ...ndment/msg1055022418/?topicseen#msg1055022418

 

[reddogs]

Reddogs, I have the distinct feeling I already responded to this exact post.

Do you happen to go by the handle "Hobie" over at Grace Centered Forums?

http://www.gracecentered.com/christian_forums/seventh-day-adventist-forum-(sda)/does-christ-repeat-the-sabbath-commandment/msg1055022418/?topicseen#msg1055022418

Reddogs are from my chow chows, Hobie is from my sailboat, as you get old you have to tie your logins to something you can remember........LOL

 

[Dave-W]

Ah. OK then. I am DaveW over there. (and a few other places as well) I tried to get that handle here but apparently it was already taken ...

 

[reddogs]

Ah. OK then. I am DaveW over there. (and a few other places as well) I tried to get that handle here but apparently it was already taken ...

Well here is the answer I gave over there...
The Leviticus 23 festivals, circumcision, the Mishnah or Mishna from the verb shanah שנה, or the Jewish Oral Traditions ect..., none are in the 10 Commandments, but the Sabbath is as it was made at Creation by Christ and remains as long as He is Lord and tells us to follow as He knows what He wrote with His own hand for us, His Law in stone and wants it written in our hearts in the new covenant.

Hebrews 8:10

For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

 

[Dave-W]

Since the Reformation, God has been restoring things one at a time that were lost as the church took its downward turn in the 2nd century. The Saturday Sabbath is one of those things. The rest of the Lev 23 festivals will be restored as well.

 

[reddogs]

Since the Reformation, God has been restoring things one at a time that were lost as the church took its downward turn in the 2nd century. The Saturday Sabbath is one of those things. The rest of the Lev 23 festivals will be restored as well.

The Sabbath is part of the 10 Commandments, the other festivals and feasts pointed to Christ and He came..

 

[reddogs]

Scripture shows that Jesus Christ is the Creator God. For example, John 1:1-10 King James Version (KJV)

"1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.2 The same was in the beginning with God.3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

We see ‘All things were made by him [the Word, in Greek ὁ λόgos, = Jesus Christ]’ and we see it also in the book of Hebrews verses 1:1-2 King James Version (KJV)

"1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;"

Paul said that he had been called specifically to preach "the unsearchable riches of Christ" and explains in Ephesians 3:8-9 King James Version (KJV)

"8 Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ;
9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:"


So we have all these Biblical passages identifying Jesus Christ as Creator, and in Genesis it tells us that in the beginning, the Creator took six days to create the heavens and the earth, and then He ceased His work and rested the seventh day:

Genesis 2:1-4King James Version (KJV)

"1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens,"

The apostle Paul confirms that Jesus is the creator God in Colossians 1:12-17King James Version (KJV)

"12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:
13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist."

Jesus tells us that the seventh day sabbath was made by Him for all mankind not just Jews or some people as we see in Mark 2:27-28 King James Version (KJV)

"27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath."

Then Peter tells us that we can look forward to a new heavens and a new earth to come in 2 Peter 3:13 King James Version (KJV)

"13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness." which is seen not only in Isaiah 66 but we find it in Isaiah 65:17 King James Version (KJV)

"17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind."


John also confirms the new creation of a new heaven and a new earth in Revelation 21:1King James Version (KJV)

"21 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea."

So this all supports what Isaiah says regarding the new creation as we saw in Isaiah 66:22-23 King James Version (KJV)

"22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain.
23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord."

John makes it even clearer in Revelation 4:11 King James Version (KJV)

"11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created."

The Sabbath which Christ made and states that it continues, is the way that we can worship and bring honor and glory to our Lord our Creator and our Saviour.

 

[Dave-W]

the other festivals and feasts pointed to Christ and He came..

Sorry but that is replacement theology,which is a lie from hell designed to keep the gospel away from Jews. And bringing the gospel to the Jews I supposed to be job 1 for Gentile believers.

 

[reddogs]

Sorry but that is replacement theology,which is a lie from hell designed to keep the gospel away from Jews. And bringing the gospel to the Jews I supposed to be job 1 for Gentile believers.

All the ceremonies and feasts and even the tabernacle pointed the people to Christ and His ministry, read your Bible..

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

Sorry but that is replacement theology,which is a lie from hell designed to keep the gospel away from Jews. And bringing the gospel to the Jews I supposed to be job 1 for Gentile believers.

The Jews' own disbelief is what kept/keeps them away from the Gospel...

As far as replacement theology, it is clear that the torch was being removed from the Jewish nation and given to the gentiles. Individual Jews could still and indeed did, find Salvation in the Lord.

Matthew 23:37-39
O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

This was foretold in Daniel, speaking of the time of the crucifixion and AD70...

Daniel 9:27
And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

 

[love2obey]

On the issue of Sabbath, our Lord Jesus Christ was more than once question on it. And always the questions were on
how to keep the Sabbath and never should we keep or do you keep the Sabbath. Just because Jesus was not doing as the Sabbath keepers of His time expected, it does not mean that He was not keeping the Sabbath.
Beside dying for our sins on the cross to restore humanity, Jesus other role was to restore God's teachings as His Word was to be.

 

[Dave-W]

As far as replacement theology, it is clear that the torch was being removed from the Jewish nation and given to the gentiles. Individual Jews could still and indeed did, find Salvation in the Lord.

Matthew 23:37-39
O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

This was foretold in Daniel, speaking of the time of the crucifixion and AD70...

Do you understand what is being said there in Matthew? I suspect not.

When the Lord returns - where EXACTLY is He supposed to land? Let me clue you in:

Zechariah 14:4 In that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, which is in front of Jerusalem on the east; and the Mount of Olives will be split in its middle from east to west by a very large valley, so that half of the mountain will move toward the north and the other half toward the south.

And when that happens - will Jerusalem see HIM? Yes:

Revelation 1:7 Behold, He is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see Him, even those who pierced Him; and all the tribes of the earth will mourn over Him. So it is to be. Amen.

SOOOOO - in order for that to happen, since He returns TO JERUSALEM where EVERY EYE will see Him, Jerusalem (either the Jewish residents or the Jewish leadership) needs to say "Baruch Haba B'shem Adonai!" Blessed is He who comes in the Name of the Lord! That is from Psalm 118 and is part of the Jewish wedding tradition of the day where the bride is welcoming the approach of her groom. That means there needs to be some kind of critical mass of identifiably Jewish New Covenant believers, enough to represent the entire ethnicity, to welcome HIM back to earth when He comes. Without that, He will not come.

 

[Dave-W]

On the issue of Sabbath, our Lord Jesus Christ was more than once question on it. And always the questions were on how to keep the Sabbath and never should we keep or do you keep the Sabbath.

Indeed that is true.

BUT - and it is a big but - HE was speaking to an entirely Jewish audience:

Matthew 15:24 But He answered and said, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

Do you understand what is being said there in Matthew? I suspect not.

When the Lord returns - where EXACTLY is He supposed to land? Let me clue you in:

Zechariah 14:4 In that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, which is in front of Jerusalem on the east; and the Mount of Olives will be split in its middle from east to west by a very large valley, so that half of the mountain will move toward the north and the other half toward the south.

And when that happens - will Jerusalem see HIM? Yes:

Revelation 1:7 Behold, He is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see Him, even those who pierced Him; and all the tribes of the earth will mourn over Him. So it is to be. Amen.

SOOOOO - in order for that to happen, since He returns TO JERUSALEM where EVERY EYE will see Him, Jerusalem (either the Jewish residents or the Jewish leadership) needs to say "Baruch Haba B'shem Adonai!" Blessed is He who comes in the Name of the Lord! That is from Psalm 118 and is part of the Jewish wedding tradition of the day where the bride is welcoming the approach of her groom. That means there needs to be some kind of critical mass of identifiably Jewish New Covenant believers, enough to represent the entire ethnicity, to welcome HIM back to earth when He comes. Without that, He will not come.

Actually, the new Jerusalem comes down to earth after the 1000 years have expired and the unrighteous dead have been raised to meet their punishment.

Christ is coming for His Church, which indeed has Hebrews/Israelites in it but also every other tongue that has confessed the Lords name since Adam. God tried to flood the world with the example He gave in Israel but they, corporately as a nation, failed to accomplish it and two others were identified to carry it forward til He came. God is no respecter of person, ethnicity, race or religious creed... only those who come to Him in full surrender through Christ will be His Israel.

 

[Dave-W]

East - your timeline is off. It is not the New Jerusalem (Rev 21-22) that He returns to. He returns to earth BEFORE the 1000 years so He can Reign in Jerusalem prior to the final judgements.

New Jerusalem comes down after all of that has happened.

 

[Soyeong]

Some claim that the Sabbath doesnt exist anymore because Christ didnt teach it or repeat it as part of the Commandments, so what did Jesus say?

The fact that Jesus was sinless means that he walked in perfect obedience to God's law, which included keeping God's Sabbath and other festivals, and we are told to follow his example (1 Peter 2:21-22), walk in the same way that he walked (1 John 2:4-6), to imitate him (1 Corinthians 11:1), and to be like him (Philippians 2:5). So we don't need Jesus to repeat every command in the OT because Jesus also taught to obey them by example. As you pointed out with Matthew 5:17-19, Jesus said that not the least law would pass away, which included all OT laws, not just the Sabbath.

Also, the Holy Spirit expressly calls it the “Sabbath day” in Acts 13:14. Aren’t the words of the Holy Spirit good enough since the Holy Spirit is the one who now convicts us of our sin?

The law is of the Spirit (Romans 7:14) and the Spirit has the role of leading us in obedience to God's law (Ezekiel 36:26-27), which again includes more laws than just the one to keep the Sabbath.

Christ clearly taught that "the sabbath was made for man." Mark 2:27. The fact is that Adam was the only man in existence at the time God made the Sabbath. Jesus was the One who made the Sabbath in the first week of time. There was a reason for His claim to be Lord of the Sabbath day (Mark 2:28). If He is the Lord of the Sabbath day, then the Sabbath must be the Lord's day. John had a vision on "the Lord's day," according to Revelation 1:10. That day had to be the Sabbath. It is the only day so designated and claimed by God in the Bible. In writing the Ten Commandments, God called it "the sabbath of the Lord." Exodus 20:10. In Isaiah He is quoted as saying, "The sabbath, My holy day." (Isaiah 58:13).

"The day of the Lord" has a specific meaning in Jewish eschatology, so John was not talking about the day of the week that he had his vision, but about the day that what he was seeing in his vision will take place.

 

[Dave-W]

Some claim that the Sabbath doesnt exist anymore because Christ didn't teach it or repeat it as part of the Commandments,

Yeah - they say that. But it shows a serious LACK of understanding on how ancient mideast covenants work - specifically in how they change from one to another. If something is not specifically stated one way or the other in the new, it carries over from the old.

To say its lack of being mentioned means it was done away with is corollary to replacement theology.

Our brothers over at the Church of Christ use that same logic to deny the use of musical instruments in New Testament worship. No mention of instruments being used in the worship service in the NT.

 

[Light of the East]

Yeah - they say that. But it shows a serious LACK of understanding on how ancient mideast covenants work - specifically in how they change from one to another. If something is not specifically stated one way or the other in the new, it carries over from the old.

To say its lack of being mentioned means it was done away with is corollary to replacement theology.

Our brothers over at the Church of Christ use that same logic to deny the use of musical instruments in New Testament worship. No mention of instruments being used in the worship service in the NT.

It is specifically stated that the Sabbath belongs specifically to the Jews and the Old Covenant.

Exo 31:16

Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.
Lev 24:8

Every sabbath he shall set it in order before the LORD continually, being taken from the children of Israel by an everlasting covenant.
Isa 56:6

Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant;

The Old Covenant is over. It was finished when the Jewish people killed their divine Bridegroom. The New Covenant has a new day of rest - that rest is Christ Himself, and the Sabbath rest merely pointed to Him. The fulfillment is here, the shadow is gone.

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

It is specifically stated that the Sabbath belongs specifically to the Jews and the Old Covenant.

Exo 31:16

Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.
Lev 24:8

Every sabbath he shall set it in order before the LORD continually, being taken from the children of Israel by an everlasting covenant.
Isa 56:6

Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant;

The Old Covenant is over. It was finished when the Jewish people killed their divine Bridegroom. The New Covenant has a new day of rest - that rest is Christ Himself, and the Sabbath rest merely pointed to Him. The fulfillment is here, the shadow is gone.

But the other 9 Commandments stand though, right? Are you Commanded to not commit adultery? What happens if you do? You are in sin, right, at enmity against God until you confess and repent of that sin. We all know that putting anything above our love and devotion to God violates Commandment #2, so that one is still in effect....

Why don't you just be honest and state what you want to believe.... "I don't have to worship God how He says... I can decide for myself even though I don't have any authority from the Bible to do so. God will be happy for my worship because I give it and god is love, right?