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All of those links - which I gave you - also say a gentile is a non-Jew. One definition does not refute the other.


If you're trying to suggest Jesus wasn't jewish we've already been through this.

Christians were considered atheists under Roman law because they did not pay respects to the Roman gods.

The links I posted,which were YOUR links also state ''
of or pertaining to a tribe, clan, people, nation, etc.''

Non Jew is the modern meaning,look up Gentile in a Strong's Concordance,you have no sense of idea what gentile means you seem wrapped up in the belief that it simply means non-Jew.

In civil affairs, the denomination was given to all nations who were not Romans.

Your not answering my question,were Jesus and the Apostles,Gentiles? YES or NO?




Many a brainwashed Christian have trouble answering questions......


 
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Read about the woman at the well(John 4)
Various Samaritans were Israelites.
Read the text I posted.

It seems Matthew 10:5 was localized as they were not to go to the gentiles(nations)/(Ethnos) either.

1484. ethnos eth'-nos probably from 1486; a race (as of the same habit), i.e. a tribe; specially, a foreign (non-Jewish) one (usually, by implication, pagan):--Gentile, heathen, nation, people.

A race as of the same habit - A Tribe - Nation - People

How does Jesus widen it to include Asians,Africans,Latins etc etc?
Go therefore and teach all nations(ethnos), baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost;

There you go, you're arguing with greek against greek and your duplicity stands, Jesus clearly used the greek word that you are using to back up your insistence that the Gospel is only for Israel falls dead on its ass.
 
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The issues I brought up again were not addressed.

Jesus was not, nor was His apostles "white". They didn't speak English. They were not Gentiles. They were circumcised. They worshiped in the Temple (Herod's) which was modeled after Solomons since it was destroyed.

Another question how do you know you are from the Zerah tribe? I thought I asked that before too...
 
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Dagelos said:
Many a brainwashed Christian have trouble answering questions......
I noticed.

Dagelos said:
Non Jew is the modern meaning,look up Gentile in a Strong's Concordance,you have no sense of idea what gentile means you seem wrapped up in the belief that it simply means non-Jew.
That's because every single dictionary you will find defines "gentile" as non-Jew.

Dagelos said:
In civil affairs, the denomination was given to all nations who were not Romans.
Dagelos said:

Your not answering my question,were Jesus and the Apostles,Romans? YES or NO?

There is quite a bit of debate as to whether Jesus was a Roman citizen, so I can't give you a straight answer. St. Paul on the other hand, the man who brought Christianity to a lot of tribes and nations, was a Roman citizen.

So in religious terms St. Paul was a gentile, but under Roman law he was not. As I said before, you can't use one definition to refute the other.
 
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Go therefore and teach all nations(ethnos), baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost;

There you go, you're arguing with greek against greek and your duplicity stands, Jesus clearly used the greek word that you are using to back up your insistence that the Gospel is only for Israel falls dead on its ass.

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It does not fall dead - We have been talking about Israel for how long?

Israel was in the nations.

They had scattered abroad - this was who James was writing to,Israel in the the dispersion(James 1:1)

Not as Jews.

Israel in the ''nations'' were the remnant of the Assyrian Captives.

Dispersed Israel from the Diaspora.


Read how the Chapter 29 of Acts.

Lost Chapter - Lost Chapter of Acts.

Amos 9:9:For, lo, I will command, and I will sift the house of Israel among all nations, like as corn is sifted in a sieve, yet shall not the least grain fall upon the earth.
 
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It does not fall dead - We have been talking about Israel for how long?

Israel was in the nations.

They had scattered abroad - this was who James was writing to,Israel in the the dispersion(James 1:1)

Not as Jews.

Israel in the ''nations'' were the remnant of the Assyrian Captives.

Dispersed Israel from the Diaspora.


Read how the Chapter 29 of Acts.

Lost Chapter - Lost Chapter of Acts.

Amos 9:9:For, lo, I will command, and I will sift the house of Israel among all nations, like as corn is sifted in a sieve, yet shall not the least grain fall upon the earth.

You are basically offering up the Book of Mormon in support of your view, in fact do that and maybe you'd have a more tenable position.

You are twisting scripture, adding to it, subtracting to it and what not, also while we are on the topic of Acts, what is the purpose of the Council of Jerusalem if all Christians were Israelites, it specifically says that those that don't trace their lineage to Israel who were converts are saved and that they should observe these things:
Abstaining from sacrificed flesh.
Abstaining from Sexual immorality.
Eating meat with blood still there.
 
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The issues I brought up again were not addressed.

Jesus was not, nor was His apostles "white". They didn't speak English. They were not Gentiles. They were circumcised. They worshiped in the Temple (Herod's) which was modeled after Solomons since it was destroyed.

Another question how do you know you are from the Zerah tribe? I thought I asked that before too...
How do you know what color they were? the middle east has changed drastically over the last 2 thousand years. Arab invasions have changed the look of the peoples.

King David was ruddy.
1Sa 16:12 And he sent, and brought him in. Now he was ruddy, and withal of a beautiful countenance, and goodly to look to. And the LORD said, Arise, anoint him: for this is he.
& 1sam 17:42

H132
אדמוני אדמני
'admônı̂y 'admônı̂y
ad-mo-nee', ad-mo-nee'
From H119; reddish (of the hair or the complexion): - red, ruddy.

Lam 4:7 Her Nazarites were purer than snow, they were whiter than milk, they were more ruddy in body than rubies, their polishing was of sapphire:

This is a possible look at Christ the Nazarite who was to be Whiter than milk and Ruddy with Shapphire color eyes. Polishing had to do with eyes.

Letters to the Rome from Pilate said described Crist as a man with a sun baked face and golden hair. One Roman leader Mother reported a similar appearance.

White people were not always Gentiles.
Modern Assyrians are mixing with Arabs somewhat but many of them are lilly White. The Assyrians were related to Hebrews. Very close as well as the old Syrians most of today Syrians are Arabs but they still have White faces. Old Syrians were related to Aram the cousin of Hebrews. Armeanians are related to old Syrins and there are many White looking Armeanians though some have mixed with Turks and Greeks.. Oh but Greeks are White.



Take a look at Asad and his White looking Wife. Asad has blue eyes and his wife Asma would pass as a pure White woman in any country.

Asma Assad, Wife Of Bashar Assad, Speaks Out


I believe you are addressing my comment on Zarah.
If you can't accept the lost tribes being White then you can't accept the trail that leads to Zarahites.

But here goes.
King Milesious and family, my relatives, traveled through Spain long before Israelites were dispersed. They named some cities in Spain after themselves with Hebrew names. one major City survives today and is Called Zaragoza now called Saragossa in English -- stronghold of Zarah.
Goza is a city in Isreal today too.

Spain was named Hiberia after these people.
Iberia comes form the same word used to name the Hebrews.
Eber/Iber/Ayber
Spain is still known as Iberia today.
The sea of Galilee today is called TIberias

These Milesians moved on to Ireland and named Ireland Ibernia and it was changed by Romans to Hibernia. The Irish coat of Arms and Flag of northern IReland show the symbols of Judah, Naptahli and David.

Heber / Eber and Heremon were the first Kings and two sons of King Milesius the Zarahite. I can trace my lineage all the way back to Heremon and came from a famous line Royal Bards of the Kings of Ireland from long ago.


Most everyone today has heard of the Golan heights in Israel.
the Greeks caleld it Gaulanitis

Gaul-an-itis meaning Belonging to Gaulan

Gaulan become known as Golan today.

GAUL is the name of the people who were in Galatia of Asia mnor region during the NT writings. See James 1:1

Jas 1:1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.
All 12 tribes were scattered.. Forget those liars in Judea that had settled there while Judah as taken to Babylon.


1Pe 1:1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the elect sojourners of the dispersion of Pontus, of Galatia, of Cappadocia, of Asia, and of Bithynia,

This is where they were and they were not Lost. But lost sheep who were moving as God moved them to a New land.

Pontus, of Galatia, of Cappadocia, of Asia, and of Bithynia,


They were Gaul from whence Galatia was named.
think Gaulan

Galilee was pronounced Gauliyl or Gauliylah in Hebrew. Gaul

Greeks called the Gauls 'Celts', meaning "people that are different"

Igal as the name of some Hebrew boys and pronounced Igaul

Gilgal was the name of three places in Israel and pronounced GilGAUL
Check you concordance.



White Celtic people are the only ones to fulfill all the promises made to Abraham and David and bless the world with the gospel.

Rome and Sicily also had some Celts and Spartans to settle there of the same blood lines. I can prove that Spartans were Hebrew stock from the book of Maccabees.

Galileo's Father was Galileo Galilei wrote that he believed the Irish were of Judah and that was why they displayed the Harp.

Galileo Galilei is very much of Hebrew origins and proabably a Spartan relative.


The signs and facts are there for those with eyes to see.
May God grant you the understanding.


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How do you know what color they were? the middle east has changed drastically over the last 2 thousand years. Arab invasions have changed the look of the peoples.

lol, you're really suggesting that the Arabs and the Jews get along enough to make babies.
 
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I noticed.


That's because every single dictionary you will find defines "gentile" as non-Jew.


There is quite a bit of debate as to whether Jesus was a Roman citizen, so I can't give you a straight answer. St. Paul on the other hand, the man who brought Christianity to a lot of tribes and nations, was a Roman citizen.

So in religious terms St. Paul was a gentile, but under Roman law he was not. As I said before, you can't use one definition to refute the other.

There is debate? Who's debating Jesus was a Roman citizen?

By you stating ''There is quite a bit of debate as to whether Jesus was a Roman citizen''

Is that your way of avoiding the question?

Why are you in this debate if you are going to avoid questions?


Matthew 22:15-22:15Then went the Pharisees, and took counsel how they might entangle him in his talk. 16And they sent out unto him their disciples with the Herodians, saying, Master, we know that thou art true, and teachest the way of God in truth, neither carest thou for any man: for thou regardest not the person of men.
17Tell us therefore, What thinkest thou? Is it lawful to give tribute unto Caesar, or not?
18But Jesus perceived their wickedness, and said, Why tempt ye me, ye hypocrites?
19Shew me the tribute money. And they brought unto him a penny.
20And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription?
21They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's.
22When they had heard these words, they marvelled, and left him, and went their way.






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Matthew 22:15-22 NIV - Paying the Imperial Tax to Caesar - Bible Gateway


Matthew 22:17 A special tax levied on subject peoples, not on Roman citizens


''you can't use one definition to refute the other.''

Interesting, as Gentile does not only mean non-Jew,look it up in the Strong's Concordance!
You seem to prefer non-Jew which is not what it means!

Of or relating to a gens, tribe, or people.
gentile - definition of gentile by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.



As for brainwashed Christians when mainstream Christian don't use common sense and ignore the obvious,well that makes a case for brainwashed.
 
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You are basically offering up the Book of Mormon in support of your view, in fact do that and maybe you'd have a more tenable position.

You are twisting scripture, adding to it, subtracting to it and what not, also while we are on the topic of Acts, what is the purpose of the Council of Jerusalem if all Christians were Israelites, it specifically says that those that don't trace their lineage to Israel who were converts are saved and that they should observe these things:
Abstaining from sacrificed flesh.
Abstaining from Sexual immorality.
Eating meat with blood still there.

Twisting Scripture? I think you should take a look in the mirror....

The disciples were Called Christians yet the disciples were Israelites.

Acts 11:26 ''And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.''

Acts 26:1:Then Agrippa said unto Paul, Thou art permitted to speak for thyself. Then Paul stretched forth the hand, and answered for himself:

Acts 26:7:Unto which promise our twelve tribes, instantly serving God day and night, hope to come. For which hope's sake, king Agrippa, I am accused of the Jews.

Romans 11:1:I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
 
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Twisting Scripture? I think you should take a look in the mirror....

The disciples were Called Christians yet the disciples were Israelites.
That's irrelevant for there is neither Israelite nor Gentile

You're next passage is a great quote mine of Paul's speech. Here is the relevant part
“King Agrippa, I consider myself fortunate to stand before you today as I make my defense against all the accusations of the Jews, 3 and especially so because you are well acquainted with all the Jewish customs and controversies. Therefore, I beg you to listen to me patiently.

“The Jewish people all know the way I have lived ever since I was a child, from the beginning of my life in my own country, and also in Jerusalem. They have known me for a long time and can testify, if they are willing, that I conformed to the strictest sect of our religion, living as a Pharisee. And now it is because of my hope in what God has promised our ancestors that I am on trial today. This is the promise our twelve tribes are hoping to see fulfilled as they earnestly serve God day and night. King Agrippa, it is because of this hope that these Jews are accusing me. Why should any of you consider it incredible that God raises the dead?
Paul is talking about how the Jews basically don't have a case against him because they as he does hopes for the coming Messiah, the one he believes is come in Christ.

Romans 11:1:I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
Hey lookee it's a verse that talks about God not abandoning Israel, that's cool I don't disagree with that, but you missed this one:

Rom 11:11 Again I ask: Did they stumble so as to fall beyond recovery? Not at all! Rather, because of their transgression, salvation has come to the Gentiles to make Israel envious. But if their transgression means riches for the world, and their loss means riches for the Gentiles, how much greater riches will their full inclusion bring!

Your argument is that Gentiles is also talking about Israel, yet here we have Paul contrasting the two

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How do you know what color they were? the middle east has changed drastically over the last 2 thousand years. Arab invasions have changed the look of the peoples.

King David was ruddy.

1Sa 16:12 And he sent, and brought him in. Now he was ruddy, and withal of a beautiful countenance, and goodly to look to. And the LORD said, Arise, anoint him: for this is he.

Lam 4:7 Her Nazarites were purer than snow, they were whiter than milk, they were more ruddy in body than rubies, their polishing was of sapphire:
So where did all of the other races come from? Do you think Europeans are 100% white with no mixing at all in them? I would say no. And Lamentations then goes on to say that they are now blacker than soot. So did the Israelites turn black? I thought they were white. Verse 8 can not be symbolic if verse 6 is not. And then you need to go to Song of Solomon (Songs), Jesus is portrayed as having hair black as a raven. What white person has that dark of hair? Now I will concede and even agree with that the Middle East had been changed over all 6000 years but that just means that they had all physical traits as well. Anyone could have been any color. Even today you can see blonde and red headed jews and light skinned jews. Look at some American hollywwod people for examples: Carrot Top (comedian), Jerry Seinfeld, Jerry Springer. They are "white" but do not fit the middle eastern look. Are they Israelites?

White people were not always Gentiles.
Modern Assyrians are mixing with Arabs somewhat but many of them are lilly White. The Assyrians were related to Hebrews. Very close as well as the old Syrians most of today Syrians are Arabs but they still have White faces. Old Syrians were related to Aram the cousin of Hebrews. Armeanians are related to old Syrins and there are many White looking Armeanians though some have mixed with Turks and Greeks.. Oh but Greeks are White.
Ok...



[quote}Take a look at Asad and his White looking Wife. Asad has blue eyes and his wife Asma would pass as a pure White woman in any country.[/quote]You realize she is British?

I believe you are addressing my comment on Zarah.
If you can't accept the lost tribes being White then you can't accept the trail that leads to Zarahites.
I actually enjoyed this information. And since I cannot prove one way or the other your background will not argue or disagree with you. I think there are some flaws and holes just like evolution (the original OP) which do not allow it to be God's word but for now I will let it go.

White Celtic people are the only ones to fulfill all the promises made to Abraham and David and bless the world with the gospel.
This question was not answered yet. I asked where did the white people get the message? How did Europe get the gospel? The Apostles? Were they Israelites and not Jews? Is that one of your points?

Do you trust in all of the canonized scripture?
 
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Malachi 3:6:For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

Basically your saying God changed - and opened up to let ''non Jews'' in to Israel - though you do not give the meanings to Jew or Gentile?
I take it,that all a ''non-Jew'' has to do is believe,and not be one of the elect?(but Just believe)?
Matthew 15:24:But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.


Romans 9:11:(For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;)

Romans 8:30:Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

Romans 8:29:For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

GENTILE DOES NOT MEAN NON JEW



You posted Malachi 3:6 “For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.”

This is true, God is unchanging, it is mankind that changes and we see this all the way through the Old Testament. Most of the time they were turned away from God. In other words, the people of the Old Testament and I do not care what people you talk about, they all blew it, even after numerous warnings and many opportunities to return to God and make their peace with him. The majority of them regardless of their ethnic bacground are destined for Hell.

So then, because you reminded me about God being unchanging, I looked up one or two scriptures, and in James 1:17 we have this, “Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows. He chose to give us birth through the word of truth, that we might be a kind of firstfruits of all he created.”

Notice the word “firstfruits” and remember that in order to be able to call yourself a Christian you need to be prepared to follow the teaching of Jesus Christ and not the teaching of the Old Testament which is Judaism and that rules out everything you have said about the 12 tribes which is totally irrelevant. Remember this is Christianity and if you want to consider yourself born again, a new creature, a new creation in Christ then you need to look to the first Christians like Epaenetus and Achaia,

Rom 16:5 Likewise greet the church that is in their house. Salute my wellbeloved Epaenetus, who is the firstfruits of Achaia unto Christ,

Remember I said the people of the Old Testament had blown it and you must have read John’s Gospel many times but you either skated over it, or it didn’t register with you.

John 1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him (Jesus) was life, and that life was the light of men. The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it.

6 There came a man who was sent from God; his name was John. He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all men might believe. He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the light. The true light that gives light to every man was coming into the world (Jesus).

10 He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him. He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him (the people of the Old Testament). Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God— children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God.

We are born of God through the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, 1 Corinthians 15:20, "But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep."

And if you want to think that salvation is only for your tribe then you need to think again because salvation is for ALL NATIONS!!

Matthew 28:19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, ...

Psalm 117:1 Praise the LORD, all nations! Extol him, all peoples! ... Praise the LORD, all nations; Laud Him, all peoples! ...

Galatians 3:8 The Scripture foresaw that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, and announced the gospel in advance to Abraham: "All nations will be blessed through you." ...

Revelation 15:4 Who will not fear you, O Lord, and bring glory to your name? For you alone are holy. All nations will come and worship before you, for your righteous acts have been revealed." ...

Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come. ...

Luke 24:47 and repentance and forgiveness of sins will be preached in his name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. ...


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lol, you're really suggesting that the Arabs and the Jews get along enough to make babies.

They probably did in the past. The intense Jewish-Arab enmity only took root in 1948. Before Zionism, Jewish communities lived peacefully in Muslim-dominated areas and intermarriage was not unknown.

Also, the Arabs, like the Jews, are a Semitic people and trace their ancestry to Ishmael, Abraham's eldest son. Their languages are as close as Dutch and German indicating a common root.

It is just ridiculous on so many levels to try and uproot the Jewish people from their ancestral roots and turn them into faux Europeans.

Of course, any sort of racism is ridiculous anyway.
 
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So where did all of the other races come from? Do you think Europeans are 100% white with no mixing at all in them? I would say no. And Lamentations then goes on to say that they are now blacker than soot. So did the Israelites turn black? I thought they were white. Verse 8 can not be symbolic if verse 6 is not. And then you need to go to Song of Solomon (Songs), Jesus is portrayed as having hair black as a raven. What white person has that dark of hair? Now I will concede and even agree with that the Middle East had been changed over all 6000 years but that just means that they had all physical traits as well. Anyone could have been any color. Even today you can see blonde and red headed jews and light skinned jews. Look at some American hollywwod people for examples: Carrot Top (comedian), Jerry Seinfeld, Jerry Springer. They are "white" but do not fit the middle eastern look. Are they Israelites?
Yes Esau was a race mixer and he sorely grieved his parents by marrying into the Cananites. It tainted his Semitic bloodline.
More mixing going on.
Ashkenais are part Turkic bloodline beleived to come from Turkey and probably of the Hittite and Hurrians according to the DNA studies. Ashkenazi was from Japeth. The Kenites JEWs mixed with Ashkenazi when they converted them to Judaism.



See Wiki on Yemanite Jews who most have moved to Israel and admit being Sons of Teman, a son of Esau. Esau is in the house.

Jews admit to being a mixture of everything just like Esau was and they are trying to breed the White seed (Jacob)out. Now is the time known as Jacobs trouble.


You realize she is British?
She did grow up in Britain. She moved back to Syria after meeting Asad.
Her parents are Sunni and of Syrian origin, originally coming from Homs.



This question was not answered yet. I asked where did the white people get the message? How did Europe get the gospel? The Apostles? Were they Israelites and not Jews? Is that one of your points?
I'm guessing you're talking about the gospel message? At that time of the Scythians, Gauls, Celts and Vikings there was little documented writings on the historical perspective.
The Gauls were in Asia minor with the 7 churches there.
When the Gauls/Gaels left, and moved west by many routes the churches fell into pagan hands. Some moved into Thracia, Scythia minor, Romania and some fought the Thracian and Greeks. And they created Albania, which is now full of Turks.
Albania was first formed just above Assyria after the tribes were freed from Assyria. Gyumri is a city name in Armenia (old Albania)that was found on Assyrian bricks linked to the lost tribes. Scotland was called Alba in the early days. And is a nick today. Alba means White in Gaelic.



Scythians were moving there and into German, Nordic & Italian lands while some went by boat to France and Spain, home of the Gauls and 2nd Galatia. These people were the main source of the gospel influence which was being accepted during their time in early Galatia of Asia a.k.a Asia minor.

Documented in the scripture is the location of the house of Israel
1 peter 1:1 and James 1:1.
And Christ specifically told his disciples to go to the lost house of Israel and said he was sent only to the lost house of Israel.




Scythes were not found anywhere in writings til after the time of Assyrian captivity ended. Th two places called Galatia(slight spelling difference) was named after the Gauls whom Greeks called Celts, "people that are different" I can tell you what is different about them.

over 90 % of the world has brown eyes and dark hair.
Celts/Gauls have blue, green, grey and even amber colored eyes.
They have the only true strains of Blond and Red heads.
Red hair accounts for less than 1% of the world.
True blondes which is only about 2% worldwide is envied by women everywhere.



Gaul is used a lot in Hebrew, Galilee was written Galilliyl & Galiyllah and pronounced Gau-liy-law. see concordance
Igal was the name of several Hebrew kids & pron. Igaul
Gilgal was pronounced GilGaul

Golan heights was pronounced Gaulan in the old days and the Greeks named it Gaulanitis meaning "belonging to Gaulan'


Scythes helped Babylon capture the 'Judeans and then settled just below Gailiee in Beth She'an, pronounced Shawn and the most common name in Ireland btw.
Beth She'an was named Scythopolis by the Greeks. Some of these relatives of Scythes were probably there in Christ days ready for the gospel of there kinsmen >> Christ.

The Mosaic artwork made by Romans in around Galilee all depicted white people. The painting by early Egyptians made the Hebrews look lily white.



Judeans were partly responsible for the Assyrian captivity, imo. When Babylon arose from within Assyira who sided with Judah went after the 10 northern tribes, The conflict of the 10 tribes of Israel vs Judah had major impact on the fall of Assyria and take over by Babylon.
Babylon freed the 10 northern Tribes after the takeover and then went after the Judeans. The Babylonians sent people from Sepharvium(Two cites*) to fill the land and the bible says that the Edomites/Idumeans plundered Hebron and the Jerusalem and helped send Judeans to Babylon. Years later the Idumeans were still there ruling and told the freed Judeans not to come here because the Lord had given them this land. Some did return but Idumeans ruled.
King Herod and son were Idumean Jews.


Sepharvium is where the name for Sephardic Jews come from.
They had no relations with the Hebrews and are of Esau's kindred.


Do you trust in all of the canonized scripture?
I think Esther was added by Edomites and they have had a major influences in the Canonization and scripture interpretations. I believe that have misled the masses. Kenites became Scribes and and these were Esau's kin who had no business in the congregation or a being Scribes. That was forbidden. From Esther we get the "Fear of the Jews." Today the world speaks softy for Fear of the Jews.
The book never glorifies Yahweh. It tells how tricky and deceitful the Jews were then and now for their own purposes and glory. Esau is a bad boy.

The message to Edom
Jer 49:15 For, lo, I will make thee small among the heathen, and despised among men.
Oba 1:2 Behold, I have made thee small among the heathen: thou art greatly despised.


I believe the book of Maccabees and possibly Estras, Baruch & Tobit should be canonized and maybe even the prayer of Manasseh.
Macabees pinpoints the time when Edomites become in power in Judea and why. It also clearly points to Spartans(White people for certain) as those who left Moses in the desert and set out on their own. They latter settled Sicily and Italy too. It's believe Rome was created by Spartans. Paul noted in Corinthians that they were his brothers who were in the desert with Moses baptized in the sea.
Paul knew full well who the Spartans and Corinthians were just like Maccabees says.



something to ponder, you decide:
I don't like to call our Father God.
in Canaanite religions Gad was the deity of fortune and pronounced GAWD. Has the old antichrist or adversary who influences so much tricked the world into calling on a Canaanite deity? Seems so to me. Sure Gad was a son of Jacob, named by his Mom who lived in the land of Canaanites.
In Hebrew the generic title was Elohim and yes El was a deity in Canaanite religions.

When Gad was born some translations recorded her as saying "Fortune has come I will name him Gad."



Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world:





the Scottish declaration of Arbroath tells of their Scythian travels to the land of Scotland precisely 1500 years after Moses crossed the Red Sea. How did they know when Moses crossed the red Sea if there
was no bible at that time unless they were there with Mose?

Irish stories abound about King Milesius traveling to Spain from Egypt and these stories were passed down by bards throughout my family line..

the name "Hebrew" derrived from Heber, Eber and pronounced Ayber
the sons of King Milesius was named Er, Eber and Eremon.
Er died when they arrived in Ireland. Er and Eber are very Hebrew names. Eremon/Heremon also sound Hebrew.
There was no scriptures at that time King Milesius lived.
How did he come up with Hebrew names for his sons lest he was Hebrew?

I have traced my lineage to Eremon and can prove it by the writings of my Bardic kinsmen, the last in the long line of Bardic traditions.





NOTICE THE SIMILARITY BETWEEN THE EARLY IRISH-CELTIC AND THE SECOND CENTURY, B.C., HEBREW- PHOENICIAN LANGUAGE, AS SHOWN BY THE PENULUS OF PLAUTUS:

PHOENICIAN OF PLAUTUS:

Byth lym mo thym nociothii nel ech an ti daisc machon

Ys i do iebrim thyfe lyth chy lya chon temlyph ula.



EARLY IRISH-CELTIC:(Gaelic)

Beth liom' mo thime nociaithe, niel ach an ti dairie mae coinne

Is i de leabhraim tafach leith, chi lis con teampluibh ulla.



Phoenician and Hebrew was very very similar sisters.


Only White people have fulfilled the promises made to Abrahams about his seeds future. No group has blessed the world like the White man or Abrahams seed as promised.

Let me remind you that I am not CI or BI but I do believe Christ when he said he came back only for the lost sheep of the house of Israel after ignoring the Canaanite woman several times(doesn't sound like her cared about non Israelite). But I believe he has offered salvation for all.
His mission was to renew the lost sheep and let them take the gospel to the world.
I do believe that every son of Israel shall be saved as the scripture says several times.
I am a child of true Israel and Christ is my kinsman redeemer.


I do appreciate the respectful manner of your arguments.
it's the only way a brother should debate a disagreement.
Let's keep it that way. I'll return the same respect that is given..


Shlama Akai


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Dagelos said:
There is debate? Who's debating Jesus was a Roman citizen?

By you stating ''There is quite a bit of debate as to whether Jesus was a Roman citizen''

Is that your way of avoiding the question?

Why are you in this debate if you are going to avoid questions?
When we were debating the definition of "gentile", I pointed out that it meant non-Jew while you pointed out it meant non-Roman. Jesus was undeniably jewish, but I'm not sure whether he was a Roman citizen.

St. Paul was both a Christian and a Roman citizen. By the religious definition he was a gentile, because he was not jewish. By legal definition he was not a gentile, since he was a Roman citizen.

You asked if Jesus was a gentile according to Roman civil law. I don't know because I don't know if he was a Roman citizen.

Isreal said:
Lam 4:7 Her Nazarites were purer than snow, they were whiter than milk, they were more ruddy in body than rubies, their polishing was of sapphire:
Although fair skin is one of the main features of Europeans - that's why we're called "white people" after all :p - fair skin alone does not automatically make them European or white. Fair skin has always been valued, regardless of country. It suggests wealth, as they did not need to spend all day in the sun farming or working.

The Nazarites might have been Aryans. Contrary to popular belief, Aryans are not blonde-haired blue-eyes Europeans. They come from the Middle East, eastern Europe and north India.

These are genuine Aryans:

aryans.jpg

These are Scandinavians:

not-aryans.jpg


These days most white supremacists and nationalists believe "Nordics" (scandinavians) to be the best white people.


[EDIT] I just noted that Lamentation does not actually mention the Nazarenes. It's possibly about the Babylonians.​
 
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Isreal said:
PHOENICIAN OF PLAUTUS:

Byth lym mo thym nociothii nel ech an ti daisc machon

Ys i do iebrim thyfe lyth chy lya chon temlyph ula.


EARLY IRISH-CELTIC:(Gaelic)

Beth liom' mo thime nociaithe, niel ach an ti dairie mae coinne

Is i de leabhraim tafach leith, chi lis con teampluibh ulla.

Genuine Irish and Welsh speakers (Irishgaelictranslator.com) couldn't recognise this.
 
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They probably did in the past. The intense Jewish-Arab enmity only took root in 1948. Before Zionism, Jewish communities lived peacefully in Muslim-dominated areas and intermarriage was not unknown.

Also, the Arabs, like the Jews, are a Semitic people and trace their ancestry to Ishmael, Abraham's eldest son. Their languages are as close as Dutch and German indicating a common root.

It is just ridiculous on so many levels to try and uproot the Jewish people from their ancestral roots and turn them into faux Europeans.

Of course, any sort of racism is ridiculous anyway.
What is ridiculous on so many levels is to believe the lies out of the synagogue of Satan that says they are the Hebrews of old when their own people have said just the opposite.. Study the subject well and then you may discover the truth isn't what is floating around in churches by ignorant people just speaking what they've heard.




Under the heading of “A brief History of the Terms for Jew” in the 1980 Jewish Almanac is the following: “Strictly speaking it is incorrect to call an Ancient Israelite a ‘Jew’ or to call a contemporary Jew an Israelite or a Hebrew.”

— 1980 Jewish Almanac, p. 3 (the writer is obliquely referring to the true history of the Eastern European Ashkenazim, or Khazars).

Encyclopedia Judaica 1971 Vol 10:23:
"JEWS BEGAN IN THE 19TH CENTURY TO CALL THEMSELVES HEBREWS AND ISRAELITES IN
1860".


"Edom is in modern Jewry." —The Jewish Encyclopedia, 1925 edition, Vol.5, p.41


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What is ridiculous on so many levels is to believe the lies out of the synagogue of Satan that says they are the Hebrews of old when their own people have said just the opposite.. Study the subject well and then you may discover the truth isn't what is floating around in churches by ignorant people just speaking what they've heard.

Under the heading of “A brief History of the Terms for Jew” in the 1980 Jewish Almanac is the following: “Strictly speaking it is incorrect to call an Ancient Israelite a ‘Jew’ or to call a contemporary Jew an Israelite or a Hebrew.”

— 1980 Jewish Almanac, p. 3 (the writer is obliquely referring to the true history of the Eastern European Ashkenazim, or Khazars).

Encyclopedia Judaica 1971 Vol 10:23:
"JEWS BEGAN IN THE 19TH CENTURY TO CALL THEMSELVES HEBREWS AND ISRAELITES IN
1860".

"Edom is in modern Jewry." —The Jewish Encyclopedia, 1925 edition, Vol.5, p.41


What is ridiculous on so many levels is that you believe the lies of Satan which are that Salvation is only for a few from one particular race when in Christianity it is not 'who' you are but 'how' you are.


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