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When we see how God handled similar "problems," we can get a picture of His immense ability to protect His creation.

Exodus 3:2 And the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed.

Daniel 3:27 And the princes, governors, and captains, and the king's counsellors, being gathered together, saw these men, upon whose bodies the fire had no power, nor was an hair of their head singed, neither were their coats changed, nor the smell of fire had passed on them.
 
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When we see how God handled similar "problems," we can get a picture of His immense ability to protect His creation.
That has absolutely zero explanatory power. So you're saying that God magically enabled Noah's descendants to survive inconceivably intense earthquakes, volcanoes, and their accompanying meteorological consequences, and build a civilization in South America, with temples sitting atop mountains that were rising at a rate of 20 feet per year while they did it.

And He managed to do this without anyone, anywhere in the entire world noticing. Nowhere in the entire bible or in any recorded text is there the slightest mention of these catastrophic upheavals. How is such a total absence of corroborating evidence even possible?

And you're simply expecting us to accept your explanation of "magic".
 
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The evidence has been presented to you many times. You can no longer ask "what evidence". I will make a deal with you. Learn what is and is not evidence and you can ask for evidence every time that I post. Until you learn what is and what is not evidence you cannot make a valid demand for evidence.
 
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Sorry, but stories from the Bible are just stories until you demonstrate otherwise. In other words, it is not evidence, it is the claim.
 
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A better way to understand how the world works, is summed up as simply.

The world is insane and we are in a giant mental health prison. The problem is that the people running this asylum we inhabit, have thrown away the keys. Now we cannot escape the asylum should we realize what is really happening. Our destiny is now certain and it's not pretty.
 
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Sorry, but stories from the Bible are just stories until you demonstrate otherwise. In other words, it is not evidence, it is the claim.
Science makes claims without hard evidence, what's the difference?
 
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Have you just described hell?
 
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That has absolutely zero explanatory power.
Either that, or it does.
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And He managed to do this without anyone, anywhere in the entire world noticing.
How do you know they didn't notice? were you there?
 
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Have you just described hell?
Good question indeed.

I lack the evidence to make a direct correlation.

For many people around the world that could be true. Alcoholics, drug addicts, the very poor, those in prison. I have heard some of these folk even use that word, hell.
 
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Either that, or it does.
Sorry, magic isn't an explanation.
How do you know they didn't notice? were you there?
Somebody...somewhere...would've said something...the silence is deafening.

Your supposedly well supported explanation sure relies a lot on magic.
 
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An inscience asylum?
I believe it is all inclusive. Science is the, 'claim', factory. They have been making claims for centuries and revising their claims for centuries. It is a continual process in science.

Insanity is written on the faces of the leaders around the world. If you see the same face everyday, then you will know what I am talking about.

On the surface they seem coherent, in control. But underneath that exterior is mental chaos, unpredictable behavior, obsession.

MWHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.
 
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Somebody...somewhere...would've said something...the silence is deafening.
How do you know they didn't, and the information passed away by way of entropy?
 
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Claiming they know how the universe will end. There are currently six theories being proposed for the end of the universe. Which theory is correct or even close or are they all incorrect.

Cosmic uncertainty
As the nature of dark energy and dark matter remain enigmatic, even hypothetical, the possibilities surrounding their coming role in the universe are currently unknown. None of these theoretic endings for the universe are certain. (wiki)

So why does the scientific world make claims about topics, that are far beyond our primitive knowledge in science?
 
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But they do not do that. They interpret the data and tell us that is what it indicates. Do not make the mistake of conflating what popular science sources say with what scientists say.

Unfortunately creationists want it both ways. In scientific publications qualifiers are almost always used. When they do that creationists complain about that. When those papers are simplified so that they can understand them better they complain about that.


Right now the evidence indicates that the universe will end with a whimper and not a bang. What is wrong with that?
 
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That is an extrapolation from a very limited data set.

A incredible extrapolation, probably the greatest scientific extrapolation ever seen.

All the movies and book, science fiction, is generated from scientific theories.

For example, people believe in aliens without a whisper of evidence.

People believe we can travel through the universe, to other planets and stars. Because they think science is saying that we can.

On and on it goes.
 
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That is an extrapolation from a very limited data set.
Well at least science has some evidence upon which to base those extrapolations. Theology uses the same methodology, only without the evidence.
 
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