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slayer-2004 said:You wont be alone .
How would you know that it was really the Messiah?Lotuspetal_uk said:I agree with you - humans can lie. One would have to test the motives of those who get into power. But since this would be difficult, the only theocracy (divinely guided as per my earlier post) I'd be happy with would only be during the 1000 yr reign of the Messiah.
Anything else I'd be extremely cautious due to past history
I know.Archivist said:Then you should have been clear in your post #37!
I hope that not very different.slayer-2004 said:I wonder what the results would be in the Xian only forums . >_>
Hi Jetgirl,Jetgirl said:How would you know that it was really the Messiah?
(I'm really not being sarcastic, I'm curious.)
Thanks Lotuspetal, is there a translation you prefer for this, I'll look it up this afternoon... it's way too early in the morning for me to be safely typing, much less reading religous text.Lotuspetal_uk said:Hi Jetgirl,
Jesus addressed this in Matthew 24:23-44 (I won't type all the verses out here as there's quite alot but on CF you can call them up). Basically he has outlined what we must look for prior to his return and to be cautious of those who may claim to be him (or wish to set up a society like the one he will govern).
Ok, so there is a kind of a "litmus test" (although that really isn't the right phrase) so that anyone who just claims to be the messiah would be objectively viewed.Lotuspetal said:Also elsewhere in the Old Testament you see some insight into how the world will be during this time period and I am kicking myself because I am rusty at my Bible Study to be able to offer you those verses. I believe they're in Isaiah and makes reference to the whole of creation living in peace ("lion lying down with the deer" I think).
I agree with you on that one! Hey, there's lots of verses to remember, you know generally what they are and pretty much where, that's impressive in my book.Lotuspetal said:Since the world currently isn't like that, any organistion or individual who would self appoint themselves into a 'theocracy' would be deemed as false and I would personally not want it.
Hope that helps but let me know if not (and in the mean time I need to swot up on my Bible)
Ironic, huh? Especially since the UK still has Christianity as the official state religion.Jetgirl said:I'd probably end up back in Britian.To escape religious persecution.
They seem to be a little less militant about it however, even today. I'm still halfway considering it.Nathan David said:Ironic, huh? Especially since the UK still has Christianity as the official state religion.
That's what I mean by it being ironic. In the UK Christianity is the official state religion, which is what many American Christians seem to want for the US, but you don't see nearly as many people wearing the faith on their sleeves or judging others for their faith or lack thereof over there. There also doesn't seem to be nearly as much gay-bashing or condmnation of premarital sex and cohabitation there.Jetgirl said:They seem to be a little less militant about it however, even today.
Ah, I misunderstood. That's what happen when I post at 6 in the morning.Nathan David said:That's what I mean by it being ironic. In the UK Christianity is the official state religion, which is what many American Christians seem to want for the US, but you don't see nearly as many people wearing the faith on their sleeves or judging others for their faith or lack thereof over there. There also doesn't seem to be nearly as much gay-bashing or condmnation of premarital sex and cohabitation there.
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