Do you want to go to heaven???????????????

[RandomNoob]

good luck with the chant...


and lol at bringing up the narrow road reference earlier. Really, the chant is the narrow road? Like everyone else is just leveling themselves?

 

[Going Merry]

good luck with the chant...


and lol at bringing up the narrow road reference earlier. Really, the chant is the narrow road? Like everyone else is just leveling themselves?

 

[greatnews]

good luck with the chant...


and lol at bringing up the narrow road reference earlier. Really, the chant is the narrow road? Like everyone else is just leveling themselves?

a chat is something that is said many times , a prayer is said only once and then you have the eternal salvation , it don't have to be said again

 

[RandomNoob]

a chat is something that is said many times , a prayer is said only once and then you have the eternal salvation , it don't have to be said again

I don't think God cares about one liners either...

Really, I think he wants people (dudes really) to nut up and fast (no food), and then do his will.

 

[greatnews]

I don't think God cares about one liners either...

Really, I think he wants people (dudes really) to nut up and fast (no food), and then do his will.

he cared enough about the publicans one liner to save him

 

[RandomNoob]

Jesus preached two main messages:

The kingdom (its restoration)

and...apparently some metaphysical reality where walking on water was standard?

 

[Going Merry]

he cared enough about the publicans one liner to save him

your vague interpretation isn't reliable for someone like me.
i wont believe in anything that is not clear cut

 

[RandomNoob]

^^ yea, certainly not enough to make such a defining doctrine.

I think the following verses are relevant to my point that it's actually a difficult path, and not to be so confident in a mere one liner or chant, but that some work/dedication is going to have to take place.

Philippians 3:10-16
that I may know Him and the power of His resurrection and the fellowship of His sufferings, being conformed to His death; in order that I may attain to the resurrection from the dead. Not that I have already obtained it or have already become perfect, but I press on so that I may lay hold of that for which also I was laid hold of by Christ Jesus. Brethren, I do not regard myself as having laid hold of it yet; but one thing I do: forgetting what lies behind and reaching forward to what lies ahead, I press on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus. Let us therefore, as many as are perfect, have this attitude; and if in anything you have a different attitude, God will reveal that also to you; however, let us keep living by that same standard to which we have attained.

So yea, this whole notion of "I'm saved", really seems pretty silly to me. The verses for it (chanting I'm saved) are flimsy, and there are far more verses indicating you're going to have to nut up and actually BE like the best of the best.

 

[greatnews]

^^ yea, certainly not enough to make such a defining doctrine.

I think the following verses are relevant to my point that it's actually a difficult path, and not to be so confident in a mere one liner or chant, but that some work/dedication is going to have to take place.

Philippians 3:10-16
that I may know Him and the power of His resurrection and the fellowship of His sufferings, being conformed to His death; in order that I may attain to the resurrection from the dead. Not that I have already obtained it or have already become perfect, but I press on so that I may lay hold of that for which also I was laid hold of by Christ Jesus. Brethren, I do not regard myself as having laid hold of it yet; but one thing I do: forgetting what lies behind and reaching forward to what lies ahead, I press on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus. Let us therefore, as many as are perfect, have this attitude; and if in anything you have a different attitude, God will reveal that also to you; however, let us keep living by that same standard to which we have attained.

So yea, this whole notion of "I'm saved", really seems pretty silly to me. The verses for it (chanting I'm saved) are flimsy, and there are far more verses indicating you're going to have to nut up and actually BE like the best of the best.

romans 10 says you have to confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord to be saved, and other places in scripture states you have to call on the name of the Lord to be saved, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation, there is a lot of verses that states you have to confess, and what better way to confess but in a prayer like the bible says ?

 

[greatnews]

romans 10:9

 

[greatnews]

your vague interpretation isn't reliable for someone like me.
i wont believe in anything that is not clear cut

how is it vague ? it's pretty clear cut to me, maybe your just trying not to look at what the verses and the bible says

 

[greatnews]

sad that not many people believe the bible

 

[MehGuy]

sad that not many people believe the bible

I believe in the bible. I've been believing in the bible before you were even born.

 

[greatnews]

I believe in the bible. I've been believing in the bible before you were even born.

that's funny seeing i'm older than you

 

[MehGuy]

that's funny seeing i'm older than you

I'm actually in my 60s.

I was there when Moses freed the slaves. I was just standing there in the crowd really amused.

 

[greatnews]

I'm actually in my 60s.

I was there when Moses freed the slaves. I was just standing there in the crowd really amused.

I guess your a jew then right ? or egyptian ? did you want to go back to egypt ?

 

[MehGuy]

I guess your a jew then right ? or egyptian ? did you want to go back to egypt ?

Was I a Jew or an Egyptian? You know, it's been so long I forgot.

 

[greatnews]

Was I a Jew or an Egyptian? You know, it's been so long I forgot.

I would tell you to act your age but I fear that you might fall over and turn into a fossil

 

[MehGuy]

I would tell you to act your age but I fear that you might fall over and turn into a fossil

Oh, ha ha...

 

[greatnews]

Oh, ha ha...

so anyways what made you want to join this website ?