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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxwJk3vvZTM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKiDPxAN1vw&NR=1
I POSTED THIS FOR THE OPPOSITION SO THEY CAN SEE WHERE HES COMING FROM.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6syRRHTTicHe's coming from AngerLand...the state of Irrationalia...and that's about it.
...from the people to the leaders;
1) I'm certainly not spinning. I'm trying to comprehend how he views the relationship between "Presidential Success and Country Success".Way to spin what he said. Why should we support policies we believe will harm America?
And if you supported policies that you thought would harm America, then you supported harming America.
So because I don't want Obama to enslave Canadians my argument is moot? Come on now. How about, instead of providing ridiculous hypothetical situations, we stick the the conversation at hand.So if Obama was in favor of invading Canada and enslaving Canadians, you would be in favor of it?
I never gave any reasoning as to why I was right. My point was that I made the separation between my desire for Bush to enact good policies and my dislike of Bush.Lots of substance there. I was right because..................
Therefore you must want America to fail..........
So you were opposed to Reagan's deficits, you must REALLY be opposed to Obama's; I mean, they are so much larger % of GDP!
So if Obama was in favor of invading Canada and enslaving Canadians, you would be in favor of it?
#8 was posted by me, and i fully stand behind it.
The republicans can dissent all they want, but when they start praying for the President (and therefor the country) to fail, that is treason.
Actually, on the world stage, center right is exactly what he is. Only in the skewed vision of the USA is he considered left wing at all.
Those of you who are hoping for failure - it's realy sad, because you will benefit by his decisions and actions, and you will have NO gratitude whatsoever. It's shameful behavior for an American.
2) Please remember that to title of this tread indicates this discussion isn't about whether you support certain policies: It's about whether you want Obama to succeed.
The distinction is important and I'm hoping that is understood.
Who gives a crap? Well the people who intelligently discussion Socialism and economics and strive to use precise definitions: They give a great BIG crap.Well, the world stage includes communism. Is he to the right of communism. Sure. But this is American politics. Who gives a crap what the he is on the world scale? Hell, Bush was a liberal if you wanna use the world scale.
Who gives a crap? Well the people who intelligently discussion Socialism and economics and strive to use precise definitions: They give a great BIG crap.
Bush was not even close to a liberal on the world scale. Not even close.
Hmmm, I want Obama's pro-national socialist policies to fail and I thought Bush's stupid war in Iraq was a monumental boondoggle and waste of American money and lives. What does that make me?
When people claim that Obama is a Socialist, I wonder if they've spent any meaningful time in countries they would consider "socialist hell holes" (West. Europe, Scandinavia, Canada [to a smaller extent])?
After his inauguration, President Ron Paul acted quickly to reverse the ridiculous spend and print policies of the last 4 years. The free markets have reset themselves and are rebounding. Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Barney Frank, Chris Dodd and a host of others have sailed off into the sunset. Greedy, corrupt CEOs who screwed everything up are now either in jail, south america, or 6 feet under. America is soveriegn, having NOT give up its independence to collectivist treaties that would make Americans submit to the political and economic whims of the rest of the world. Government has reduced its size and scope. The gold standard has been restored and our money now has value again. I could go on and on and on.For those that want Obama's policies to fail; translate that into what will happens to Americans. Let's say it is 2013, Obama's policies have failed, how do you envision America.?
After his inauguration, President Ron Paul acted quickly to reverse the ridiculous spend and print policies of the last 4 years. The free markets have reset themselves and are rebounding. Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Barney Frank, Chris Dodd and a host of others have sailed off into the sunset. Greedy, corrupt CEOs who screwed everything up are now either in jail, south america, or 6 feet under. America is soveriegn, having NOT give up its independence to collectivist treaties that would make Americans submit to the political and economic whims of the rest of the world. Government has reduced its size and scope. The gold standard has been restored and our money now has value again. I could go on and on and on.
Good riddance. What oh what will we do without illuminaries like Whoopie Goldberg, Rosie ODonnell, and Susan Sarandon?And many actors left in a huff for Europe pledging never to return unless they get their way.
Both ways?You can't have it both ways. If Obama is center right on the world scale, then Bush was center left on the world scale. It's that simple.
"meaningful time", means not travelling or passing through.I've been to Holland, it was quite nice.
You are creating this huge monolith of an enemy with no real solid justification.That doesn't change the fact the Euro-style socialism is a a serious threat to America and our freedom and liberty. Euro-style socialism over here would look like Britain,,which is on the raod to authoritarianism and rabid loss of freedom, civil right and privacy.
For those that want Obama's policies to fail; translate that into what will happens to Americans. Let's say it is 2013, Obama's policies have failed, how do you envision America?
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