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Do you understand how small we are?

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I really need to stop hanging out in astrophysics forums. I don't understand any of the math, and I probably seem like an excited child to them as I learn things for the first time that scientists have known for decades.

Anyway, do you want to know how small you are? Prepare to have you mind opened. This comes again from a user called RobotRollCall.

Take a look at this map:
wnearsc.gif

http://www.atlasoftheuniverse.com/wnearsc.gif

What do you think it is? A map of stars? Close. It's a map of galaxies. GALAXIES! Each dot is a galaxy, each galaxy has billions of stars, of which our sun is one small, boring example.

This is what RRC had to say about it:


"That one pixel right dead center? That's our galaxy. Our entire galaxy. If you want to imagine our planet at that scale, think of it as a single proton contained somewhere within that single pixel.
And this map? This just depicts the local neighborhood. It's just the stuff that's close. If you wanted to depict theentire observable universe at that scale, you'd need a map about ten feet across."







You think that's amazing? He came back a few minutes later to correct himself:


"Whoops. I was distracted and messed up the arithmetic. Our galaxy, on that map, is one one-thousandth of a pixel across, roughly. It's a thousand times smaller than what I described before, making our planet, by that scale, one one-thousandth of the diameter of a proton. And to depict the whole observable universe, you'd need a map roughly a quarter of a mile across."

At that scale, our earth is 1,000th the size of a single proton in your computer monitor. And everything we could possibly see, not everything in the universe, but everything we could ever hope to see, the observable universe, would be a quarter of a mile across at that scale!

Humans will probably never make it to the next star, let alone anywhere else in our galaxy and beyond. But when you look up at the sky and see those specs of light that you think are stars but are actually entire clusters of galaxies, a part of those places has come to you. Literally. The photons, the light, has traveled billions of light years through the frozen void, across vast oceans of time, has been bent by gravitational lensing around black holes, and is absorbed by your retina in the instant you look up into the sky.

I think that's amazing.
 
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I really need to stop hanging out in astrophysics forums. I don't understand any of the math, and I probably seem like an excited child to them as I learn things for the first time that scientists have known for decades.

Anyway, do you want to know how small you are? Prepare to have you mind opened. This comes again from a user called RobotRollCall.

Take a look at this map:
wnearsc.gif

http://www.atlasoftheuniverse.com/wnearsc.gif

What do you think it is? A map of stars? Close. It's a map of galaxies. GALAXIES! Each dot is a galaxy, each galaxy has billions of stars, of which our sun is one small, boring example.

This is what RRC had to say about it:


"That one pixel right dead center? That's our galaxy. Our entire galaxy. If you want to imagine our planet at that scale, think of it as a single proton contained somewhere within that single pixel.
And this map? This just depicts the local neighborhood. It's just the stuff that's close. If you wanted to depict theentire observable universe at that scale, you'd need a map about ten feet across."







You think that's amazing? He came back a few minutes later to correct himself:


"Whoops. I was distracted and messed up the arithmetic. Our galaxy, on that map, is one one-thousandth of a pixel across, roughly. It's a thousand times smaller than what I described before, making our planet, by that scale, one one-thousandth of the diameter of a proton. And to depict the whole observable universe, you'd need a map roughly a quarter of a mile across."

At that scale, our earth is 1,000th the size of a single proton in your computer monitor. And everything we could possibly see, not everything in the universe, but everything we could ever hope to see, the observable universe, would be a quarter of a mile across at that scale!

Humans will probably never make it to the next star, let alone anywhere else in our galaxy and beyond. But when you look up at the sky and see those specs of light that you think are stars but are actually entire clusters of galaxies, a part of those places has come to you. Literally. The photons, the light, has traveled billions of light years through the frozen void, across vast oceans of time, has been bent by gravitational lensing around black holes, and is absorbed by your retina in the instant you look up into the sky.

I think that's amazing.

It's fascinating and inspiring, which invariably means someone will come in and say that their interpretation of words in a book are much more awesome.
 
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I can't even hold this in my mind. Every time I get close to imagining just how vast this, something in my brain just feels like it's about to snap. Reading facts like these always makes me think of this video (I don't want to steal your thunder though, so if you'd prefer I take it down or make a new thread, I'm happy to!)

YouTube - Why Didn't Anybody Tell Me?
 
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My favourite is this: Pale Blue dot (Earth)
PaleBlueDot.jpg

Carl Sagan said:
From this distant vantage point, the Earth might not seem of particular interest. But for us, it's different. Look again at that dot. That's here, that's home, that's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.

The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner, how frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds.

Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the Universe, are challenged by this point of pale light. Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves.

The Earth is the only world known so far to harbor life. There is nowhere else, at least in the near future, to which our species could migrate. Visit, yes. Settle, not yet. Like it or not, for the moment the Earth is where we make our stand.

It has been said that astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known.

R.I.P. Carl Sagan. We miss you. (And, we need many more like you)
 
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My personal favorite is the HUDF:
hudf_hst.jpg

I've told my wife I'd love one printed to canvas to hang above my desk. She does not understand, says it's too boring a picture. Too little variation.

Boring? The HUDF? It's the best photo ever taken, in my opinion. It's a reminder of our size, the vastness of the universe and how little we know. How small we are. It's a constant reminder of the need to be humble and to marvel at the universe around us. It is a look out our window and out across the world. And while it makes me feel like a small child looking out through the bars of his crib at the whole wide world it also wakes a deep joy in me. A nearly uncontainable desire to go out there and discover more. To be a more integral part of this vastness, if for nothing else then to marvel at it and be humbled by it's greatness and beauty.

But I know few who understand and relate to that :p
 
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"... the host of heaven cannot be numbered...." -- Jeremiah 33:22

"The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of His hands." -- Psalm 19:1

"He [God] telleth the number of the stars; he calleth them all by [their] names." -- Psalm 147:4
 
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My personal favorite is the HUDF:
hudf_hst.jpg

I've told my wife I'd love one printed to canvas to hang above my desk. She does not understand, says it's too boring a picture. Too little variation.

Boring? The HUDF? It's the best photo ever taken, in my opinion. It's a reminder of our size, the vastness of the universe and how little we know. How small we are. It's a constant reminder of the need to be humble and to marvel at the universe around us. It is a look out our window and out across the world. And while it makes me feel like a small child looking out through the bars of his crib at the whole wide world it also wakes a deep joy in me. A nearly uncontainable desire to go out there and discover more. To be a more integral part of this vastness, if for nothing else then to marvel at it and be humbled by it's greatness and beauty.

But I know few who understand and relate to that :p

I've got a picture of the milky way over my desk :thumbsup: Comparatively small, I know, but I've always been something of a homebody.
 
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I really need to stop hanging out in astrophysics forums. I don't understand any of the math, and I probably seem like an excited child to them as I learn things for the first time that scientists have known for decades.
The Bible compares the stars in the Heavens with the grains of sand on the beach. For me I wonder how long does it take for a grain of sand to get that small? "He took Abram outside and said, "Now look up at the sky and count the stars, if you are able to count them." He also said to him, "That's how many descendants you will have!" How many stars can we see with our naked eye? With no city lights of course.
 
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How many stars can we see with our naked eye? With no city lights of course.

Depends on how good your eyesight is and what environment you're in. If you're in a rainforest, probably very few. Midnight on Mt. Everest might be a very different experience. Similarly Helen Keller and Ray Charles would see slightly fewer than I would. The figures I've heard quoted have ranged from 6000-10000, but I am not an astrophysicist and I suspect that someone will be along to correct me shortly :)
 
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