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Do you think that the story of Adam and Eve literally happened?

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"Slow process over time" has never been an adequate explanation for anything like mountains and the grand canyon.


As I said before. I could say that a flood built my house, but without an explanation for how this could be so, my words would be meaningless.

When you have an explanation for how the double turned angular unconformity could form as a product of a flood, feel free to let me know.

Your attack on science is nothing more than a distraction away from your own lack of an explanation.
 
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And where does the above describe double overturned angular unconformities with fault gouge and burrows? Nowhere.

It doesn't even mention such things let alone explain how a flood might produce them.

As I said before, I could say that a flood built my house, but without an actual explanation for such a thing, these are just meaningless words.

To build a house you have a concrete foundation, you have blueprints, you build a frame with drywall etc. These items constitute an explanation for how to build a house. Simply saying "the flood did it" just isn't sufficient.
 
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Ok, so now you're saying "tsunamis and earthquakes did it". But how?

How does water moving back and forth create such a structure? How would an earthquake create such a structure?
 
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Ok, so now you're saying "tsunamis and earthquakes did it". But how?

How does water moving back and forth create such a structure? How would an earthquake create such a structure?

Tell me how does your process of millions of years very slowly pushing up this into place through solid rock? Really it's all a matter of either slowly or rapidly. How ignorant of a comment.

Again WATCH THE VIDEO IT EXPLAINS IT IN DETAIL BY PHD SCIENTISTS.
Let me guess their PHDs are not real ones like secular scientists?

Is your religion Christianity or Scientism?
 
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I just told you, flood and some volcanic activity when the fountains of the deep broke open. You realize that the entire process of the flood lasted ~1 year right?

Explain to me how do most mountains in the world including Mt. Everest has sea shells and most clams in the closed position?
As a non geologist who at least understands high school geology I certainly can tell you that. Seashells are found on top of mountains because they get pushed up there due to plate tectonics. Continents bumping into each other will push up the sea floor between them. India is pushing into the rest of Asia and has pushed up the land as well as part of the sea floor. Of course you’ll find shells on the sea floor even if that sea floor is now on top of a mountain. Maybe you should google orogenesis which is how mountains form
 
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interesting and I love the misleading graphic. Water in the mantle is mostly chemically bound . It’s not Liquid water . And btw most rocks especially the granites and basalts or other heavier mantle materials, won’t float on water . Liquid lava won’t float either . Pumice has air bubbles in it
 
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As a non geologist who at least understands high school geology I certainly can tell you that. Seashells are found on top of mountains because they get pushed up there due to plate tectonics. Continents bumping into each other will push up the sea floor between them. India is pushing into the rest of Asia and has pushed up the land as well as part of the sea floor. Of course you’ll find shells on the sea floor even if that sea floor is now on top of a mountain. Maybe you should google orogenesis which is how mountains form

Right and this too "millions of years", "slowly pushing it" lol right.
 
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[STAFF EDITED DELETED QUOTE] I’ve taken undergrad geology courses so I’m not as ignorant as you think I am . Lol . As far as proof that’s simple . Rocks don’t float .
 
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I’ve taken undergrad geology courses so I’m not as ignorant as you think I am . Lol . As far as proof that’s simple . Rocks don’t float .

What are the odds that the bible would state 4000+ years ago that the fountains of the GREAT deep busted open. I thought ancient societies were not very smart according to many. Yet this came from God and is being proved scientifically now.
 
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Right and this too "millions of years", "slowly pushing it" lol right.
. I’m pretty sure it did take 200 million of years considering that India was once attached to Africa ,Australia and Antarctica and broke off .
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This is a photo you’ll have to google the video but it’s very good
 
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What are the odds that the bible would state 4000+ years ago that the fountains of the GREAT deep busted open. I thought ancient societies were not very smart according to many. Yet this came from God and is being proved scientifically now.
wow someone lied to you big time.

So where is the sediment layer from this so called Flood ? Where’s the cracks left over from so called the Fountains of the Deep which would have mineral deposits from the superheated water and chemical changes to the minerals making up the ocean floor ? . . How did the water not boil off from the heat of condensation ? So many unanswered questions with creationist pseudoscience explanations
 
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. I’m pretty sure it did take 200 million of years considering that India was once attached to Africa South America and Antarctica and broke off . View attachment 277925
This is a photo you’ll have to google the video but it’s very good

Explain to me how this is not possible with a worldwide flood. It is much more possible with the amount of water to move continents etc. Why is there the huge midatlantic ridge? When the fountains of the great deep busted open...

So how does death enter the world before Adam and Eve? How does sin fit in there?
 
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Explain to me how this is not possible with a worldwide flood. It is much more possible with the amount of water to move continents etc. Why is there the huge midatlantic ridge? When the fountains of the great deep busted open...

So how does death enter the world before Adam and Eve? How does sin fit in there?
you tell me it’s your supposition
 
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Tectonic plates at the mid ocean ridge move about 6 inches per year maximum . The Atlantic Ocean is how wide ? You do the math . Btw the layers on the sides of the continents match
 
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Tectonic plates at the mid ocean ridge move about 6 inches per year maximum . The Atlantic Ocean is how wide ? You do the math . Btw the layers on the sides of the continents match

LOL another one that believes what is happening currently has been happening always.
 
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Explain to me the mid-atlantic ridge. Apparently you know it all.
. I’ve taken undergrad courses you should ask komatiite or ophiolite as iirc they ARE geologists. But hey the mid ATLANTIC ridge is just a plate boundary where the plates are slowly being pushed apart . Slowly enough that Several magnetic reversals are preserved in the rock that solidified around the opening
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