do you think social media will destroy capitalism now?

[dlamberth]

OR,
instead of "social programs",
"a village"
i.e. people who care and do what is necessary/ needed for someone.

Ya...that's an other form of Social Programs. That might work. But I don't think so much in our society. I think we would need to develop a higher level of empathy first.

 

[Kaon]

Ya...that's an other form of Social Programs. That might work. But I don't think so much in our society. I think we would need to develop a higher level of empathy first.

Correct.

The more "social" a society becomes, the more the people will need more concentrated "human" qualities - such as empathy and even sympathy. Capitalism fits so well with ego, which is why it has worked even though it should have failed for a "decent" society at its inception.

 

[Aldebaran]

Your right, Capitalism is an economic system. I've not indicated otherwise. But it's an economic system that for the better good of society as a whole needs Social Programs to help those that Capitalism leaves behind.

A capitalist system can contain social programs for those "left behind". One example is Medicaid, which provides free health care for those who can't afford better health insurance. Bernie Sanders (an admitted socialist) wants it for everyone. That simply does not work.

 

[dlamberth]

A capitalist system can contain social programs for those "left behind". One example is Medicaid, which provides free health care for those who can't afford better health insurance. Bernie Sanders (an admitted socialist) wants it for everyone. That simply does not work.

Medicaid is an example of a Social Program that helps Capitalism help the poor.

 

[bekkilyn]

OR,
instead of "social programs",
"a village"
i.e. people who care and do what is necessary/ needed for someone.

That's "we the people" on a nationwide, federal government, scale for larger projects that concern practically every citizen, i.e. healthcare, and statewide and citywide for smaller, more localized projects. While there *are* some church groups here and there helping people with such things as healthcare, it's a small drop in the bucket compared to what is needed...but that's one reason why we have governments. Even in the bible, one of the duties of the king was the general welfare of the poor, orphans, widows, etc. (Many failed miserably though and brought on judgment from God due to their selfishness and greed and wickedness.)

This whole idea that a democratic form of government shouldn't do anything besides have the best military is ridiculous.

 

[bekkilyn]

A capitalist system can contain social programs for those "left behind". One example is Medicaid, which provides free health care for those who can't afford better health insurance. Bernie Sanders (an admitted socialist) wants it for everyone. That simply does not work.

The current problem with Medicaid is that it is typically only available for children and disabled adults and NOT for those who simply cannot afford better health insurance. All of those people have to do without health insurance at all, particularly in states that did not expand Medicaid. Even the ACA only reimburses those with the lowest income and so there are large numbers of people who make too much to qualify for ACA reimbursement but yet are unable to afford paying for health insurance on their own. And those who make less than $12K a year no matter how many hours they work also do not qualify for ACA because the idea was that they would be covered under Medicaid, but that only works for the states that expanded Medicaid.

So we have a HUGE number of U.S. citizens who have fallen into, and live in the cracks and are unable to receive any help with medical care.

 

[gaara4158]

do you think social media will destroy capitalism now?

Is this a pun based on the word "social" as in socialism being a part of "social media"? If so, that's a brilliant trollish joke.

If you're really asking, no, of course social media isn't going to cause the fall of capitalism. Social media fits very, very well into the capitalistic paradigm. Users volunteer personal information which the websites collect and use to serve you ads with the highest chances of influencing your shopping decisions.

 

[Sparagmos]

A capitalist system can contain social programs for those "left behind". One example is Medicaid, which provides free health care for those who can't afford better health insurance. Bernie Sanders (an admitted socialist) wants it for everyone. That simply does not work.

Medicaid isn’t capitalism, it’s socialism.

 

[dlamberth]

Medicaid isn’t capitalism, it’s socialism.

It's a social program in a Capitalist economy.

 

[miamited]

It's a social program in a Capitalist economy.

Hi dlamberth,

Actually, both medicaid and medicare are social programs working within a Capitalist economy. So is Welfare and section 8 housing. So are food banks that receive federal funding. There are quite a few 'socialistic' services that we have put in place in our Capitalist economy. And I imagine that for all those who are the recipients of such services, that they are considered helpful. However, too often those who feel that they're the one's paying to support such services...don't.

This is why we need a governing system that offers such services. Left to their own devices, most wicked hearted people would not put in much in services to help the less fortunate. It's what Paul wrote about in his opening words of Romans. We will become more greedy and self-centered...not less.

God bless,
In Christ, ted

 

[durangodawood]

It's a social program in a Capitalist economy.

Medicaid absolutely is an element of the current socialist economy, which exists alongside the larger capitalist economy.

I'm ok with both.

 

[Sparagmos]

It's a social program in a Capitalist economy.

Social programs....are socialism.

 

[gaara4158]

Social programs....are socialism.

If you're going to look at it that simply... ok. But you're going to end up either admitting that socialism is a good thing or arguing that public education, medicaid, and social security are bad. Were you prepared to do that?

 

[zephcom]

If you're going to look at it that simply... ok. But you're going to end up either admitting that socialism is a good thing or arguing that public education, medicaid, and social security are bad. Were you prepared to do that?

Not to mention the highway and street systems, access to waterways, the entire judicial system, and water/sewer systems.

 

[Aldebaran]

Medicaid isn’t capitalism, it’s socialism.

If it's supplemental to a mainly capitalist system, then it's a safety net. If it's mandated for all to have it as a replacement to private health insurance, aka Bernie Sanders, then it becomes socialism.

 

[zephcom]

If it's supplemental to a mainly capitalist system, then it's a safety net. If it's mandated for all to have it as a replacement to private health insurance, aka Bernie Sanders, then it becomes socialism.

Okay. Here is my plan. Health care is available to everyone, but should anyone WANT to pay for medical care themselves, they can. Others will be able to avail themselves of the safety net.

 

[Albion]

In a TRUE Marxist society, there are no bureaucrats.

That's completely wrong, Dave. What you may have meant is that in a true Communist society, there allegedly will not be any bureaucrats because, again in theory, everyone will share the wealth voluntarily, never seeking to labor only for themselves. That is the projected and mythical future that according to Marxist theory will just phase into existence when the dictatorship of the Socialist period has passed. It, however, which is real and not just speculation, is totalitarian. In such a society, the bureaucrats absolutely live at the expense of everyone else!

 

[bekkilyn]

Okay. Here is my plan. Health care is available to everyone, but should anyone WANT to pay for medical care themselves, they can. Others will be able to avail themselves of the safety net.

And that's exactly the "socialism" Bernie proposes.

 

[Dave-W]

What you may have meant is that in a true Communist society,

Not capital C communist (which refers to a political party) but the communism as laid out by Marx and Engles in their Manifesto. TRUE Marxism.

 

[Sparagmos]

If you're going to look at it that simply... ok. But you're going to end up either admitting that socialism is a good thing or arguing that public education, medicaid, and social security are bad. Were you prepared to do that?

I do think that socialism is good the poster I was responding to said that social security was a part of a capitalist economy, and I disagreed.