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So does that mean that you would never call the police if you saw someones home being robbed? As there is a strong possibility that the 'secular forces' that we choose to call would use lethal force to stop the assailant, then this would make us just as culpuble as the police if they were to shoot someone.I'm sorry but you can't twist scripture to suit yourself He wants our ALL not just what suits us
If I knew the robber would be shot I certainly wouldn't call the police. I'd rather lose my effects than have him shotSo does that mean that you would never call the police if you saw someones home being robbed? As there is a strong possibility that the 'secular forces' that we choose to call would use lethal force to stop the assailant, then this would make us just as culpuble as the police if they were to shoot someone.
That's not quite what I said. My reference was to your neighbour who you knew was at home while the house was being robbed. For that matter, we can add in that his wife and children were probably at home as well; so would you deem it right to call the local 'armed secular force' to overpower and maybe kill the assailant, or is his life more valuable than that of the family who he is about to rob and possibly kill.If I knew the robber would be shot I certainly wouldn't call the police. I'd rather lose my effects than have him shot
As stated, if I knew the assailment would be shot I would not call the policeThat's not quite what I said. My reference was to your neighbour who you knew was at home while the house was being robbed. For that matter, we can add in that his wife and children were probably at home as well; so would you deem it right to call the local 'armed secular force' to overpower and maybe kill the assailant, or is his life more valuable than that of the family who he is about to rob and possibly kill.
As the many life choices that we have to make can often have some unforseen consequences, does this mean that you would choose to allow the assailant to not only rob your neighbours family home (who could possibly be a friend), where there is also a strong possiblity that one or all of them could be shot; as against choosing to call someone to stop the assailant.As stated, if I knew the assailment would be shot I would not call the police
If it was reported the assailant had a gun then 'yes' but I wouldn't be happy about it knowing how 'click-happy' the police and population are.As the many life choices that we have to make can often have some unforseen consequences, does this mean that you would choose to allow the assailant to not only rob your neighbours family home (who could possibly be a friend), where there is also a strong possiblity that one or all of them could be shot; as against choosing to call someone to stop the assailant.
This means that you would be prepared to side with the armed assailant who is probably entering the home being prepared to kill, but you are not prepared to stand up for your neighbour.
For that matter, if you were to witness an armed intruder who is about to enter your neighbours home, would you give them a phone call to warn them and would you do this if you knew that your neighbour also owned a gun?
Dozens of free advanced nations round the globe have lived gun-free for decades and never experienced tyranny.
If you had of replied along the line that you would not be prepared to call anyone into action who owned a gun, be it a member of the police or even the householder, then you would at least be consisent with your stance; as I mentioned, life can certainly be complicated and the choices that we sometimes have to make can even go against our heart felt views.If it was reported the assailant had a gun then 'yes' but I wouldn't be happy about it knowing how 'click-happy' the police and population are.
What's worse - the gun-waiving thugs or the gun-waiving cops? all the same
Malvina, if nothing else, my particular line of tack does suggest that the gun issue is not all that simple as we Australians in particular would like to think it is.You're trying to split hairs here You know very well what my answers are.
If that was his sole reason for owning a gun then you would be right to criticise him, but as most people own a gun either for recreation or for protection then this is another matter.I don't think the Lord will be too happy with you using scripture to justify the fact you hold guns to slaughter people it's complete hypocrisy and you know it
Wait a minute . . . so you're now saying that we are to all go out and buy a gun (sword)!
You're quite right of course but my flippant remark to Malvina was to point out that as Malvina is anti-gun, I was surprised that she provided a Scripture that had Jesus telling us that we were to each go out and buy a gun (or a sword); that's one of those passages that anti-gun activists tend to keep away from.Why not, there is no sin in the bible of owning a gun, as long as your country allows you to.
Well that says it all.Still wanting to go off topic I see.
While you're at it, why not break out your bible for once, and show us where owning a tool in society is listed as a sin by The Holy Spirit.
No inference, no twisting of scripture to suit your personal views, show us where it specifically lists owning a tool as a confirmed sin with GOD.
By the way, here's a picture for you of my candidate Donald Trump, feel triggered?
I used to think much the same myself, but so far, he seems to be the only one who has any semblence of an idea when it comes to international relations. Even though he is a billionair (they usually can't be trusted), he does seem to be unaligned with the horrid US military-industrial complex which seems to be behind most of the world's current problems. But is he perfect, or even an ideal candidate, maybe not, but at least his foreign policies seem to make a bit of sense.Well that says it all.
As for pic if he gets in God Help America. He's a joke to the world and half of America
I used to think much the same myself, but so far, he seems to be the only one who has any semblence of an idea when it comes to international relations. Even though he is a billionair (they usually can't be trusted), he does seem to be unaligned with the horrid US military-industrial complex which seems to be behind most of the world's current problems. But is he perfect, or even an ideal candidate, maybe not, but at least his foreign policies seem to make a bit of sense.
Well that says it all.
As for pic if he gets in God Help America. He's a joke to the world and half of America
I used to think much the same myself, but so far, he seems to be the only one who has any semblence of an idea when it comes to international relations. Even though he is a billionair (they usually can't be trusted), he does seem to be unaligned with the horrid US military-industrial complex which seems to be behind most of the world's current problems. But is he perfect, or even an ideal candidate, maybe not, but at least his foreign policies seem to make a bit of sense.
It's not a tool friend - it's a lethal weapon! that you are prepared to use on your neighbour or anyone else that comes in your way and that you store - enabling your family to do the same.Where is that stated sin in our bibles about how I shall not inherit the kingdom of GOD because I owned a tool? This is the place where you are suppose to prove your point scripturally.
And Mr Trump will certainly be our president and fix all the things that the communists have failed us in. As for hillary, she's going to prison.
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