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i thought alice and wonderland had the only "the march hare"? . . . and unfortunately i'm too old to post here as of today.farewell. take care. God bless.
No, i do not think the KJV is the 1 and only true inspired word of God...I know it is. I dont feel like going through all the faults, omits', changes and perversion the other bible versions hold..so.. google (or look on ebay or amazon) for the book "New Age Bible Versions" By G.A. Riplinger..I was convinced by that book. quite shocking to be honest...i strongly advise anyone everyone to read that book...to let you know. I did not read that book knowing alredy "KJV IS PERFECT" ..I read it with an open mindSpoiled Christians?
Anyway, I have already been shown the Bible verses for hell. Well they could be interpreted differently than as meaning an eternal place of pain. Could hell not be something else? The problem for me runs deeper than that, but I wont go into that now.
You think only the KJV is from God? Why? Just wondering.
yes, spoiled christians..The majority of christians today are only being fed the milk of the word in churches today...where every sunday they preach john 3:16 (not literally but always about Gods love-not that that is a bad thing..but it is spoiling christians, making them think they have very little if not any accountability)..and teach self-love and self- esteem ..mhm..well: "Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ." more scriptures: Eph. 5:5-7 "For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. "Spoiled Christians?
To be honest, i dont know..never looked into the unicorn thing.(i should though) so You have the upper hand in this one..I dont want to sound confident in the KJV in an ungodly prideful way like "the kjv is perfect and i dont care what any1 says, i wont listen lalala, you are all dumb i dont have to show you proff or nothing just beilive the facts" im firm in my belifeTakk: Doesn't the KJV use the word Unicorn when it should be an Ox type animal?That alone tells me that it a translation by man, and the people who translated it didn't have the understanding of animals from that region like we do today. Just as much of a problem I have with it is it's style of writting. People think that old english seems mystical but to me it is just pointless to read a book in words unnatural to the average person today. If you are going to say the KJV is the only good one why not go a step further and say every Christians should learn ancient greek and hebrew and bring us one step closer to legalism.
If I sound like I am attacking you I am sorry, but I don't like to see Christians held back by the past, 'back in my day things were so much better'. If you are seeking the truth like when you read that book I hope you don't hold on to the KJV just because you want to. I say this all with good will for you.
I also once read a book that changed my view hugely on an issue and gave me passion to fight for that view. A little while later I realised that book (while good over all) was very wrong about that issue and that is when I fully realised that while Christians can mean well they can get it very wrong too.
I understand where your coming from. Your not to walk around in your daily life saying to yourself "im a wretched sinner" God says to be of good cheer..lets have some Godly self-esteem where you know God is there for you, and knowing that all those beautiful promises in the bible are for you, all things are possible in him..not man's where it says love yourself (in a selfish way) and evry morning say in the mirrior "im handsome, im smart, im special" "By the way sorry i'm having to disagree with you alot." Lol, atleast we're not at eachother throats like " EAT THIS SOLARRRI agree that many Christians don't act very Christian and are still on milk theology, but I see nothing wrong with John 3:16 (not that you do either) but it to be at the heart of the gospel.... God's love and Christ's death for all people. And on self-esteem I think that can be very important to teach.... ones identity in God. People sin alot of the time because they don't understand who they are in relation to God. Eg: Sex outside marriage because they feel alone, want intimacy, feel unfulfilled; when in fact they are the loved child of God whose happiness can be found in Him, etc. I would say the problem with Christians is more not taking the Christian life seriously and really drawing close to God.
Hell: The Bible also says hell is a place of darkness and destruction and Jesus said to fear the one who can destory your soul. Where does the balance come between fire, destruction and darkness?
By the way sorry I'm having to disagree with you alot, I accept that there is a lot I still need to learn so it is just interesting talking about it.
To be honest, i dont know..never looked into the unicorn thing.(i should though) so You have the upper hand in this one..I dont want to sound confident in the KJV in an ungodly prideful way like "the kjv is perfect and i dont care what any1 says, i wont listen lalala, you are all dumb i dont have to show you proff or nothing just beilive the facts" im firm in my belife..and i will look into it for sure there must be some explination and im not the type of person to reasearch something that supports my side and my side only..i look at both sides..it would not make much sence to say "The KJV is perfect " and not know spit about the other versions
I understand where your coming from. Your not to walk around in your daily life saying to yourself "im a wretched sinner" God says to be of good cheer..lets have some Godly self-esteem where you know God is there for you, and knowing that all those beautiful promises in the bible are for you, all things are possible in him..not man's where it says love yourself (in a selfish way) and evry morning say in the mirrior "im handsome, im smart, im special" "By the way sorry i'm having to disagree with you alot." Lol, atleast we're not at eachother throats like " EAT THIS SOLARRR" ---" IN 'YER FACE, TAKK!"
Solarwave... "Doesn't the KJV use the word Unicorn when it should be an Ox type animal?"... that does'nt make any sence. Of course you would say that because you read another "Bible" that's not the KJV and they all say "Ox" so that can't possible tell you or anyone for that matter that its translated by "man".
and were is your proof that the people who translated it didn't have the understanding of animals from that reigon?
"People think that old english seems mystical but to me it is just pointless to read a book in words unnatural to the average person today."....Lol I have to admit that really is quite funny, I would'nt call it "pointless" now a days it would'nt kill people to learn some good english and the part about the "average person" well i think your right about something. It would be "unnatrual" to some guy off the street. Mainly because he (is filled with immunisation shots and mercury and fluoride from his water and not to mention he's high off fast food etc)... I could go on an on with that one.
Nobody has to go and learn Greek and hebrew because the Lord has translated it for us in the KJV.
So yeah just thought I'd say that, one more thing..about the "self-esteem" thing its wicked, and totally contrary to God's Word. Jesus said to deny ourself...
Matthew 16:24 ...If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
and someone correct me if im wrong but...if your a follower of Jesus Christ then you have no "identity" Your "identity" should be Jesus Christ!...and didnt understand what you ment by the whole "people sin alot of the time because they don't understand who they are in relation to God" sooo ya I'm done!
Lol well you are funny, I dont think of it as an argument, u have your beliefs, I have mine we talk it out...well type it out. We are both Christians the only thing is...that we both can't be right.
The NIV NLT NKJV ESV etc... all say Ox. As you know the KJV doesnt say Ox it says Unicorn well the word unicorn is often applied to the rhinoceros(1828 dictionary)...so I do admit that I'm not a genius on this subject but I do find it strange that the KJV says unicorn and all these New Age bible versions say Ox?....dont you think that's strange?
Yes I believe that Unicorns are real. Just as real as any other animal because the Word of God says they are...not to mention this world and all there "knowledge" just resently found a "unicorn like animal" somewhere...I think it was in Italy or somewhere I can't remember. but idk if there right or not if the world says it its prolly not true.
Yes and praise God for people wanting to make the Lords Words understandable for everyone who spoke different languages but the problem comes in when you have a hand full of Bibles and all of them have differerent Words...God is not the author of confussion, not all of the bibles can be right there can only be one right. Thats just how it is.
I dont disagree with clean non flouridated water....and Its a proven fact that Immunizations and flouride are not good for you. And no u will not hear this from your doctor or your teacher and most likely not your pastor.
Sorry Guess I read to fast, I can agree with most of that I just think that If your a Christian then your "self-esteem" would come from God and his Word and standing ferm in your faith I just disagree with the philosophy that comes along with self-esteem, I dont even wanna call it "self-esteem" just sounds funny.
Yeah but this is good I like this discussion
Well thats good to hearI have never talked to someone with beliefs like yours before, so I'm finding it quite interesting. And it could be the case that we are both slightly wrong.
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