Do you know why a Christian cannot willfully sin

[1stcenturylady]

Lawlessness is a special category of sin that you have created. The scripture tells us that sin is lawlessness. We know there are unforgivable sins, like blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, taking the mark of the beast, and taking out the words of the prophecy of Revelation. Both the forgivable and the unforgivable sins are lawlessness. There is no justification in the text for creating a special category of sin called lawlessness. Also, who decides which sins are "lawlessness" and which are not? The bible, not having created such a category, also has nothing to say on categorizing particular sins in this way.



All the scripture is true but we must rightly divide the word of truth. You are seeing guillotines when the scripture is describing guardrails. 1 John is mostly giving us parameters of behavior which describe the righteous and unrighteous, but the scriptures there aren't cliff edges for believers to fall off of.

You're teaching some form of sinless perfectionism, and this is always what happens. Page after page after page of someone claiming they don't sin, which no one can verify, and which the scripture also says isn't true. It's just the same old arguments from 1 John with a different coat of paint on it. This is the sin it always leads to:

2 Timothy 2:14

Remind them of these things, and solemnly charge them in the presence of God not to wrangle about words, which is useless and leads to the ruin of the hearers.

Don't you believe this scripture? How many times have you debated these things with people? I can tell you from personal experience that this scripture is true. After one of these sinless perfectionism debates I ended up talking with someone who was about to walk away from the faith because he was so discouraged by the arguments. It took a lot of discussion and prayer to restore that brother. So be warned that this is what you are doing here.

Lawlessness is against the LAW. That is the difference. We are not under the law but under the Spirit. The Lord's Prayer shows us the type of sins as Christians we are to ask forgiveness for - transgressions, debts. They are NOT sins against moral LAW.

All the scripture is true but we must rightly divide the word of truth. You are seeing guillotines when the scripture is describing guardrails. 1 John is mostly giving us parameters of behavior which describe the righteous and unrighteous, but the scriptures there aren't cliff edges for believers to fall off of.

Then you haven't actually read what I've written, you just scan it and assume. I will let those who have read what I've written and understand where I am coming from respond to this accusation.

You're teaching some form of sinless perfectionism, and this is always what happens. Page after page after page of someone claiming they don't sin, which no one can verify, and which the scripture also says isn't true. It's just the same old arguments from 1 John with a different coat of paint on it.

I'm teaching what John is saying, but more importantly what he means. Not sterilization, but the removal of the desire to commit willful sin. And I've also described what the sins a Christian still commits are like. Again, you wouldn't know because you haven't read them. Just throw out accusations.

 

[1stcenturylady]

This is the sin it always leads to:

2 Timothy 2:14

Remind them of these things, and solemnly charge them in the presence of God not to wrangle about words, which is useless and leads to the ruin of the hearers.

I'm the one being hurt by you. So do you believe this scripture?

There is only one thing to do when encountering villains on the forums - put them on ignore and move on.

 

[Blade]

Hmm kind of hard to talk to a wall. Some talk as if they KNOW they are right and if you disagree.. Then your in error. This is not wise. And the only one that is true is Christ. We all read and we then tell others what we PERSONALLY believe. John 3:16.. can't disagree.

This for ME is the short. He has in 57y never told me.. careful.. you can be lost forever if you keep sinning. What He did was told me ..well asked me what Righteousness was and then how do you get this righteousness. Right standing with God ..and by believing in Jesus. Then tells me..there is no condemnation to them that are in Christ Jesus. He is not being faithful to me.. but to His son .what Christ did on the cross. I know what it all sounds like. Yet.. I can not freely sin if I say I love Him. Yes He died..sin no longer has a hold on me. My flesh was NOT changed.. what was born from above can not sin. He created it.. He gave me every lasting life. That is something NO MAN has the power to stop.. only A GOD can. I did nothing to get it.. lol how can I then as man stop it. Its to me is like my kids. They are mine.. they are family. Nothing they do will ever stop my love for them. Nor can anything take them from me. Yet they can still hurt me. So as I see it.. if I sin freely.. I push Him away.. I then open a door so the enemy can come it. I then have to except the wages of sin..that price is death. So I would suffer even more in this world. I then would not get any rewards.

That which was born of God can not sin.. is that not me? Nope...yet Yes! Paul.. its no longer I that sin..but sin that is in me. What did GOD make new? Not the flesh..it will never see heaven..ever. ONLY when He changes it. So.. what was made new? New spirit? How can it sin? That which is born of God can not sin. Does not sin. John.. we all have sin..if we say we dont the truth is not in us.. we deceive our selfs. Can sound very confusing.

So me.. once saved always and if I sin I can be lost forever? yeah.. dont play with those thoughts.. not from my Father..He has NEVER ever talked about it nor brought it up. And sin? He is faithful to what Christ did on that Cross. He does not see me NOW..HE sees me through Christ. And NO SIN gets past Christ.. for He as John B said.. behold the lamb of GOD that takes away the sins of the world. That was before He died. He died.. rose PRAISE YOU FATHER! So.. what SIN is left? Can I ADD new strips to Him? Does He know have to DIE again? Paul went through this.. they would sin..and then try to offer something up for that sin. Paul told them.. can Christ die again? There is NO MORE sacrifice for sin.

People read that as if.. ooh you sin.. oops no more sacrifice for sin..so your lost forever. Lol..not even what HE said. I DONT Know all don't want to. I am saved. I hate sin. I still sin and sometimes freely.. I ALWAYS repent.. I always try to do a 180.. I confess it.. He forgives.. I get up dust off and keep going.

Do.. this is how I see it. I am righteous ..not if I NEVER EVER SIN again or if I keep on sinning. NOTHING I did or do or will do makes me righteous. I am in right standing with Him because of what CHRIST did. My Father is FAITHFUL to that! Not ANYTHING I can do. So HE sees me ALREADY FINISHED. How can I sit in heavenly places if I am full of sin? NO SIN can enter heaven. WHAT was MADE NEW? It can..

Anyway.. sorry I went on so long.. and sorry if its hard to understand.. if you dont agree lol great.. praise GOD. KEEP YOUR EYES ON HIM! Let HIM be right and NOT YOU! For only HE is! If I have to ADD something to what HE said..its not Him anymore. As in "what that verse is really saying/ What God really meant".. pass.. see ya..love ya. Jesus is REAL. If your stuck and want to know.. ASK HIM..then give Him time to ANSWER! Show Him respect as we do others. HE is coming.. HE said it .. not me.. love all forgive all.. show others what CHRIST did does for you. Always forgives you.. do the same. Love them pray for them.. dust your feet off.. dont talk behind there back.. talk TO THEM! Judge.. careful..or you will be judged the same way

 

[Jan001]

Hmm kind of hard to talk to a wall. Some talk as if they KNOW they are right and if you disagree.. Then your in error. This is not wise. And the only one that is true is Christ. We all read and we then tell others what we PERSONALLY believe. John 3:16.. can't disagree.

This for ME is the short. He has in 57y never told me.. careful.. you can be lost forever if you keep sinning. What He did was told me ..well asked me what Righteousness was and then how do you get this righteousness. Right standing with God ..and by believing in Jesus. Then tells me..there is no condemnation to them that are in Christ Jesus. He is not being faithful to me.. but to His son .what Christ did on the cross. I know what it all sounds like. Yet.. I can not freely sin if I say I love Him. Yes He died..sin no longer has a hold on me. My flesh was NOT changed.. what was born from above can not sin. He created it.. He gave me every lasting life. That is something NO MAN has the power to stop.. only A GOD can. I did nothing to get it.. lol how can I then as man stop it. Its to me is like my kids. They are mine.. they are family. Nothing they do will ever stop my love for them. Nor can anything take them from me. Yet they can still hurt me. So as I see it.. if I sin freely.. I push Him away.. I then open a door so the enemy can come it. I then have to except the wages of sin..that price is death. So I would suffer even more in this world. I then would not get any rewards.

That which was born of God can not sin.. is that not me? Nope...yet Yes! Paul.. its no longer I that sin..but sin that is in me. What did GOD make new? Not the flesh..it will never see heaven..ever. ONLY when He changes it. So.. what was made new? New spirit? How can it sin? That which is born of God can not sin. Does not sin. John.. we all have sin..if we say we dont the truth is not in us.. we deceive our selfs. Can sound very confusing.

So me.. once saved always and if I sin I can be lost forever? yeah.. dont play with those thoughts.. not from my Father..He has NEVER ever talked about it nor brought it up. And sin? He is faithful to what Christ did on that Cross. He does not see me NOW..HE sees me through Christ. And NO SIN gets past Christ.. for He as John B said.. behold the lamb of GOD that takes away the sins of the world. That was before He died. He died.. rose PRAISE YOU FATHER! So.. what SIN is left? Can I ADD new strips to Him? Does He know have to DIE again? Paul went through this.. they would sin..and then try to offer something up for that sin. Paul told them.. can Christ die again? There is NO MORE sacrifice for sin.

People read that as if.. ooh you sin.. oops no more sacrifice for sin..so your lost forever. Lol..not even what HE said. I DONT Know all don't want to. I am saved. I hate sin. I still sin and sometimes freely.. I ALWAYS repent.. I always try to do a 180.. I confess it.. He forgives.. I get up dust off and keep going.

Do.. this is how I see it. I am righteous ..not if I NEVER EVER SIN again or if I keep on sinning. NOTHING I did or do or will do makes me righteous. I am in right standing with Him because of what CHRIST did. My Father is FAITHFUL to that! Not ANYTHING I can do. So HE sees me ALREADY FINISHED. How can I sit in heavenly places if I am full of sin? NO SIN can enter heaven. WHAT was MADE NEW? It can..

Anyway.. sorry I went on so long.. and sorry if its hard to understand.. if you dont agree lol great.. praise GOD. KEEP YOUR EYES ON HIM! Let HIM be right and NOT YOU! For only HE is! If I have to ADD something to what HE said..its not Him anymore. As in "what that verse is really saying/ What God really meant".. pass.. see ya..love ya. Jesus is REAL. If your stuck and want to know.. ASK HIM..then give Him time to ANSWER! Show Him respect as we do others. HE is coming.. HE said it .. not me.. love all forgive all.. show others what CHRIST did does for you. Always forgives you.. do the same. Love them pray for them.. dust your feet off.. dont talk behind there back.. talk TO THEM! Judge.. careful..or you will be judged the same way

Are you saying that you personally cannot possibly lose your salvation no matter what you do?

 

[1stcenturylady]

Hmm kind of hard to talk to a wall. Some talk as if they KNOW they are right and if you disagree.. Then your in error. This is not wise. And the only one that is true is Christ. We all read and we then tell others what we PERSONALLY believe. John 3:16.. can't disagree.

When someone believes the false doctrine of the Nicolaitans, and you've verified such with questions, and the Spirit isn't present in their talk and try to hurt you, you can banter back and forth, but to what purpose? Better to then be a wall and cleanse yourself of the memory.

(will finish quoting your long post later - I've gotta run)

 

[SavedByGrace3]

Just to clarify. No name calling or arguing. Very difficult to discuss with someone when they are constantly calling you names and making accusations(???)
You seem to be saying that satan is the one who will sanctify us in spirit, soul, and body.
I am not sure that sounds right. I believe the Lord sanctifies us with His word... not by the devil interacting with our carnal nature...

1 Thess 5:
23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

John 17
17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

Ephesians 5
26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,

No accusations of being false teaching or some other evil.
Just clarification. As for me... I think I will stick with the Lord and the word.

Lots of confusion here....

 

[lincomen]

So much time and effort being spent to find excuses to sin! Vain philosophies of carnal men and women. Folks, spend your time in God's Word and find out how to be victorious in CHRIST JESUS to do what He said, "Go and sin NO MORE!" John 5:14 and John 8:11. There's enough sinners running around serving the Devil, this world certainly doesn't need any more. That's why Jesus came - to make us FREE.

Dear Didaskalos; Read this - CLEAN SPIRIT = CLEAN FLESH! No way around this one, try as you like.
2 Corinthians 7:1
Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.

Sister 1stcenturylady; thank God you're not backing down!
ROMANS 6:1-2
What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? GOD FORBID. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

 

[SavedByGrace3]

Lots of mincing words here. I see people saying the same thing with different words.
peace

 

[1stcenturylady]

So much time and effort being spent to find excuses to sin! Vain philosophies of carnal men and women. Folks, spend your time in God's Word and find out how to be victorious in CHRIST JESUS to do what He said, "Go and sin NO MORE!" John 5:14 and John 8:11. There's enough sinners running around serving the Devil, this world certainly doesn't need any more. That's why Jesus came - to make us FREE.

Dear Didaskalos; Read this - CLEAN SPIRIT = CLEAN FLESH! No way around this one, try as you like.
2 Corinthians 7:1
Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.

Sister 1stcenturylady; thank God you're not backing down!
ROMANS 6:1-2
What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? GOD FORBID. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

Thank you for the encouragement. It is important to lift up Jesus and tell the truth of what He did for us and walk in it. As Jesus said, "let the dead, bury the dead." We are not to take a seat with scoffers.

Jesus doesn't expect us to do ANYTHING in our own power. He provides His own powerful Spirit to indwell us to be righteous, and eventually "perfect as My Father in Heaven is perfect." THAT is what I teach. If those who belong to Satan want to twist my words into a message of us trying to be perfect in our own strength, well, there will be no liars in heaven...

 

[sunlover1]

Lawlessness is a special category of sin that you have created. The scripture tells us that sin is lawlessness. We know there are unforgivable sins, like blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, taking the mark of the beast, and taking out the words of the prophecy of Revelation. Both the forgivable and the unforgivable sins are lawlessness. There is no justification in the text for creating a special category of sin called lawlessness. Also, who decides which sins are "lawlessness" and which are not? The bible, not having created such a category, also has nothing to say on categorizing particular sins in this way.



All the scripture is true but we must rightly divide the word of truth. You are seeing guillotines when the scripture is describing guardrails. 1 John is mostly giving us parameters of behavior which describe the righteous and unrighteous, but the scriptures there aren't cliff edges for believers to fall off of.

You're teaching some form of sinless perfectionism, and this is always what happens. Page after page after page of someone claiming they don't sin, which no one can verify, and which the scripture also says isn't true. It's just the same old arguments from 1 John with a different coat of paint on it. This is the sin it always leads to:

2 Timothy 2:14

Remind them of these things, and solemnly charge them in the presence of God not to wrangle about words, which is useless and leads to the ruin of the hearers.

Don't you believe this scripture? How many times have you debated these things with people? I can tell you from personal experience that this scripture is true. After one of these sinless perfectionism debates I ended up talking with someone who was about to walk away from the faith because he was so discouraged by the arguments. It took a lot of discussion and prayer to restore that brother. So be warned that this is what you are doing here.

I had a woman come to my home one time and said similar things.
about how she doesn't sin.
I asked her outright, "are you telling me that you do not sin"
her way around it was to say, "I am at this moment, without sin"
I politely asked her to leave.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

In 47 years as a believer, and having known thousands of believers, I have only met a handful who honestly claimed they had never once sinned since they were saved. I do not mind that, except for the fact I do not believe them. Usually their mannerism and attitude toward the rest of us tells me the truth.
I do feel compelled to encourage the rest of us who do in fact love the Lord and live in His grace every day, to not be discouraged by these claims. The Lord is patient and merciful and is helping you every day. Be encouraged! When you do sin, and we all do, you have an advocate with the Father. Confess your sin and He is faithful and just to forgive you and cleanse you from all unrighteousness! Blessed be His name forever!

 

[Arthur B Via]

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Fascinating how most Christians are absolutely clueless regarding "salvation", "grace", "The Atonement".

The fact is, there is a lot of religion in Christianity, but so very little accuracy regarding theology, or Christian doctrine.

I invite you, who are Catholic, or Pentecostal, or similar, to read Romans 4:8, and realize that this is YOU, its talking about.

And then do a study of Ephesians 2:15.

If you do, and seek God about these verses, and others that you can "concordance", you'll discover an amazing thing about your Salvation.

1.), God does not hold you accountable IN ETERNITY for your sin.
None of them.
Not the ones you did yesterday, or the ones you'll do next week.

This does not mean you wont suffer the consequences on EARTH for what you do wrong, that you know is a sin......as you will......but you will never be judged for them in Eternity, And why?....Because Jesus has paid for all your sin, ALREADY, on Earth.
See, some of you belong to horrible churches, with awful theology, that has taught you to believe that "while Jesus has saved you, YOU must keep yourself saved, by confessing sins, confession, or penance, or dying in some state of"..
And all of this, is man made deceit and nonsense that denies the eternal effect of the Cross, and rips this verse out of your bible........ Philippians 1:6

2.) You are not under the Law.

And what does this mean?
It means that if you are saved.....not water baptized, or confirmed, but BORN AGAIN.....by the Spirit of God.... Then the Law has no authority over you anymore, to judge you as a SINNER.
"Where there is NO LAW, there is NO TRANSGRESSION"...
See that?
That is Ephesians 2:15.
Thats YOUR Status if your are Born Again.

Yet, you run around, many of you, thinking that you are sinning and need to confess it to be forgiven.
And that is not the truth.
Try to understand that God does not have to keep forgiving you, once you are SAVED.

If you are SAVED, then you are ALREADY forgiven, and everything that you consider as a "sin", that you do after you are saved, is just as forgiven, as if you never did it.
And the reason you can't accept this, or believe this truth, is because your "church" or someone in your life has taught you that Grace is temporary, and that the Atonement, the shed blood of Christ, and its effect on your sin, is temporary.
Well, they lied to you.
And once you find this out, what will you do then?

Well said... The "churches" now have over 40,000. Different Christian denominations claiming to represent God's Word although we have One God, One Saviour, we are One world, and One people. Read the first chapter of 1st. Corinthians and see how man started deveati from Grace

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Fascinating how most Christians are absolutely clueless regarding "salvation", "grace", "The Atonement".

The fact is, there is a lot of religion in Christianity, but so very little accuracy regarding theology, or Christian doctrine.

I invite you, who are Catholic, or Pentecostal, or similar, to read Romans 4:8, and realize that this is YOU, its talking about.

And then do a study of Ephesians 2:15.

If you do, and seek God about these verses, and others that you can "concordance", you'll discover an amazing thing about your Salvation.

1.), God does not hold you accountable IN ETERNITY for your sin.
None of them.
Not the ones you did yesterday, or the ones you'll do next week.

This does not mean you wont suffer the consequences on EARTH for what you do wrong, that you know is a sin......as you will......but you will never be judged for them in Eternity. And why?....Because Jesus has paid for all your sin, ALREADY, on Earth.
See, some of you belong to horrible churches, with awful theology, that has taught you to believe that "while Jesus has saved you, YOU must keep yourself saved, by confessing sins, confession, or penance, or dying in some state of"..
And all of this, is man made deceit and nonsense that denies the eternal effect of the Cross, and rips this verse out of your bible........ Philippians 1:6

2.) You are not under the Law.

And what does this mean?
It means that if you are saved.....not water baptized, or confirmed, but BORN AGAIN.....by the Spirit of God.... Then the Law has no authority over you anymore, to judge you as a SINNER.
"Where there is NO LAW, there is NO TRANSGRESSION"...
See that?
That is Ephesians 2:15.
Thats YOUR Status if your are Born Again.

Yet, you run around, many of you, thinking that you are sinning and need to confess it to be forgiven.
And that is not the truth.
Try to understand that God does not have to keep forgiving you, once you are SAVED.

If you are SAVED, then you are ALREADY forgiven, and everything that you consider as a "sin", that you do after you are saved, is just as forgiven, as if you never did it.
And the reason you can't accept this, or believe this truth, is because your "church" or someone in your life has taught you that Grace is temporary, and that the Atonement, the shed blood of Christ, and its effect on your sin, is temporary.
Well, they lied to you.
And once you find this out, what will you do then?[/QUOT
Well said and beautifully in line with what God says! Read the first chapter of 1st. Corinthians to see how "men" started deviating from the
!

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Fascinating how most Christians are absolutely clueless regarding "salvation", "grace", "The Atonement".

The fact is, there is a lot of religion in Christianity, but so very little accuracy regarding theology, or Christian doctrine.

I invite you, who are Catholic, or Pentecostal, or similar, to read Romans 4:8, and realize that this is YOU, its talking about.

And then do a study of Ephesians 2:15.

If you do, and seek God about these verses, and others that you can "concordance", you'll discover an amazing thing about your Salvation.

1.), God does not hold you accountable IN ETERNITY for your sin.
None of them.
Not the ones you did yesterday, or the ones you'll do next week.

This does not mean you wont suffer the consequences on EARTH for what you do wrong, that you know is a sin......as you will......but you will never be judged for them in Eternity. And why?....Because Jesus has paid for all your sin, ALREADY, on Earth.
See, some of you belong to horrible churches, with awful theology, that has taught you to believe that "while Jesus has saved you, YOU must keep yourself saved, by confessing sins, confession, or penance, or dying in some state of"..
And all of this, is man made deceit and nonsense that denies the eternal effect of the Cross, and rips this verse out of your bible........ Philippians 1:6

2.) You are not under the Law.

And what does this mean?
It means that if you are saved.....not water baptized, or confirmed, but BORN AGAIN.....by the Spirit of God.... Then the Law has no authority over you anymore, to judge you as a SINNER.
"Where there is NO LAW, there is NO TRANSGRESSION"...
See that?
That is Ephesians 2:15.
Thats YOUR Status if your are Born Again.

Yet, you run around, many of you, thinking that you are sinning and need to confess it to be forgiven.
And that is not the truth.
Try to understand that God does not have to keep forgiving you, once you are SAVED.

If you are SAVED, then you are ALREADY forgiven, and everything that you consider as a "sin", that you do after you are saved, is just as forgiven, as if you never did it.
And the reason you can't accept this, or believe this truth, is because your "church" or someone in your life has taught you that Grace is temporary, and that the Atonement, the shed blood of Christ, and its effect on your sin, is temporary.
Well, they lied to you.
And once you find this out, what will you do then?

Well said and beautifully in line with what God says...

 

[justbyfaith]

That would be a new world record for going without sin, surpassing Jesus, lol.

Jesus lived beyond the 33 years of His natural life.

 

[salt-n-light]

Jesus lived beyond the 33 years of His natural life.

It was a joke

 

[justbyfaith]

Romans 14:22 says that what is not of faith is sin.
IJS

Therefore whatsoever is of faith is not sin. Therefore if I live consistently by faith...you finish that statement.

 

[justbyfaith]

It was a joke

At the expense of a friend of mine.

 

[justbyfaith]

Galatians 3:14, Romans 5:5, and Ephesians 3:19 tell us that through faith in Jesus Christ we are filled with the fulness of the love of God by the Spirit. Romans 8:4 tells us that if we walk after the Spirit and not after the flesh, the righteousness of the law is fulfilled in us. Also the love I speak about from Romans 5:5 is the fulfilling of the law...Romans 13:8-10, 1 John 5:2-3, 2 John 1:6.

1 John 1:8 tells us that all of us have sin...but 1 John 3:5-9 shows us that this is not speaking of us being unable to not commit sin from moment to moment...it is speaking of indwelling sin...and indwelling sin can be rendered dead (Romans 7:8, Romans 6:6-7, Galatians 5:24) so that it has no authority over what we do in our behaviour.

We become one flesh with Jesus Christ according to Ephesians 5:30-32; we are purified in our souls according to 1 Peter 1:22, and in Titus 3:4-7 our soul and spirit is regenerated and renewed. And in 1 Thessalonians 5:23-24 we can be sanctified wholly in the spirit and soul and body.

In Hebrews 10:14 those who are sanctified (wholly) have been perfected for ever.

Now I do not claim to be sinless; I consider that I have not apprehended this sanctification that I speak of: and in Philippians 3:15 it states that as many as are perfect shall have this attitude.

Proverbs 4:18 says, But the path of the just is as the shining light, that shineth more and more unto the perfect day.

Therefore in my process of sanctification, I seek to move ever forward and never backward (see also Philippians 3:16).

If I ever reach what Proverbs 4:18 calls the perfect day, I may never know it, although it may be the truth. Because as a born again Christian, my eyes are fixed on Jesus (2 Corinthians 3:18) and not on my inward parts; unless the Holy Spirit is specifically pointing out something to me that is not pleasing to Him.

I find that He points those kinds of things out less and less as time passes, because He is sanctifying me on a daily basis, and I am becoming more and more like Christ through being immersed in His word from day to day (Romans 8:29, Romans 12:1-2).

 

[thesunisout]

Lawlessness is against the LAW. That is the difference. We are not under the law but under the Spirit. The Lord's Prayer shows us the type of sins as Christians we are to ask forgiveness for - transgressions, debts. They are NOT sins against moral LAW.

The problem is that you've invented these definitions; they are not truly biblical. The scripture does not categorize sin this way. It also doesn't tell us what the sins are which lead to death in John, so you are assuming there. We do know there are unforgivable sins, which no prayer will help, so we can make a justified leap that the sin that leads to death is unforgivable sins. The scripture only lists three of those to my knowledge.

Then you haven't actually read what I've written, you just scan it and assume. I will let those who have read what I've written and understand where I am coming from respond to this accusation

I haven't read everything you've written because that would take awhile. I do see the same old conversations taking place. You're teaching some form of sinless perfectionism and also claiming you don't sin, just that you "miss the mark". These are all your definitions. All unrighteousness is sin, and missing the mark is unrighteous. If Jesus bled to pay for it, it's a sin. Missing the mark will keep you out of Heaven just as much as any other sin if the blood of Jesus hasn't covered it.

I'm teaching what John is saying, but more importantly what he means. Not sterilization, but the removal of the desire to commit willful sin. And I've also described what the sins a Christian still commits are like. Again, you wouldn't know because you haven't read them. Just throw out accusations.

You're teaching your interpretation of John seen through the lens of your sinless perfectionism doctrine. I believe Christians can have victory over sin but the flesh is still the flesh and won't ever stop being the flesh. The temptations will always be there and sometimes people slip up.

 

[thesunisout]

I'm the one being hurt by you. So do you believe this scripture?

There is only one thing to do when encountering villains on the forums - put them on ignore and move on.

I do believe the scripture that all of these conversations which come down to wrangling about words ruin the hearers. I have personally seen that, so whenever these pop up I know some people will really struggle with their faith. Doesn't that bother you?

I'm also not a villain, I am saved by the shed blood of Jesus Christ. God bless

 

[thesunisout]

I had a woman come to my home one time and said similar things.
about how she doesn't sin.
I asked her outright, "are you telling me that you do not sin"
her way around it was to say, "I am at this moment, without sin"
I politely asked her to leave.

It's kind of similar to those who believe that only people in their denomination, or even their church, are saved. There is always some special condition they place upon salvation that makes it exclusive to their beliefs. It's basically what Paul said:

Galatians 3:1-3

1 O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?

2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?

Sinless perfectionists put the condition that we have to be sinless or we aren't saved. Whenever someone adds a condition on salvation above grace through faith you know they are a heretic.

I don't believe you can go on sinning and living however you want and stay in the Kingdom. I believe that those who persist in willful disobedience will eventually be cast out. That doesn't mean that you have to be sinless to be saved, or to continue to abide in Christ. We can't keep ourselves in the Kingdom, it is all grace. We need just as much grace to stay in the Kingdom as it took to bring us into it. We need Jesus at every moment of every hour.

1 John 2:1

My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

This is why we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous. He always lives to make intercession for us precisely because we need it!