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Do you hear your own audible voice when you think?

Discussion in 'The Kitchen Sink' started by JacksBratt, Jan 31, 2020.

  1. No, I don't hear my voice. All quite with my thougts

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  2. Yes, what on earth... don't you too?

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  3. I hear my spouses voice and it never stops...

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  1. Chesterton

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    Then obviously it's not you doing the thinking. I suggest you see an exorcist right away. :p
     
  2. Chesterton

    Chesterton Whats So Funny bout Peace Love and Understanding Supporter

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    Mine too.
    No, I cannot will sound to appear in my brain, nor any other sensory perception. I can only imagine them.
     
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  3. Chesterton

    Chesterton Whats So Funny bout Peace Love and Understanding Supporter

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    o_O
     
  4. Chesterton

    Chesterton Whats So Funny bout Peace Love and Understanding Supporter

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    Calling people NPCs can get you banned from Twitter, you know. :D
     
  5. Chesterton

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    Yes, as I said in an earlier post, I think in words, but more like linear text, nothing auditory.
     
  6. Kaon

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    How do you know what is "not there"? You are still using the standard of academia to judge your reality - one very rudimentary facet of reality.

    Peter was fine walking on water until his reasoning brain began to think about the physics of walking on water as a human, and he fell through. Faith of a mustard seed and such: we handicap our progress by subscribing to acadeemia as if it is *the* legitimate answer to observable reality of this plane of existence. The compulsion to do this comes from deep-rooted remnants of Enlightment thinking.

    Your eyes lie to you just like your other senses. Senses lie, which is why you have to choose your stance and stick to it: if you seem crazy to others, then own it. The paradigm always changes every few hundred years (because we are ignorant), so often the crazy people of one generation are the geniuses of another - and vice versa. It's all foolishness and vanity, but if you want to staunchly align yourself to the philosophy of academia as the answer to reality, then make sure you are doing it for you (and not because of social fear of being scoffed at and derided).

    Keep this in mind: we know the forces of the fields that permeate every fiber of space-time, and we determine the equations of motion down to the color interaction. Yet, we still use combustible fuel to transport ourselves, and we still use rocket ships based on h2/o2 chemical reactions. Our buildings are still made of wood frames that rots, and the population is susceptible to more disease despite scientific advancement. We genetically modify our food instead of finding better ways to grow producers in a way that does not alter the genetics of the organism (cross pollination is not genetic modification - I mean literally taking a strand of DNA out of producers and replacing it with a pestaside-resisitant sequence). Either scientific advancement is a romanticism (and sinusoidal at best), or we being played for fools.
     
  7. Resha Caner

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    I don't hear my voice or any voice, but I don't know if I would say it's quiet. When I'm in deep thought, it's so "loud" I don't hear any physical sounds.

    It's an interesting question, because it's something I've pondered - pondered for the reason that for a long time I would have deep, complex thoughts and then struggle to communicate them. I did some really weird stuff as a child - well, still do according to my wife.

    For a long time I would tell people I had my own internal language for processing thought that was much more efficient and much richer than any human language … kinda arrogant.

    What I have since realized is that I am heavily, heavily, heavily biased toward visual perception. As such, I think in pictures, not words. The thoughts are so amazing to me but there's that pictures and thousand words thing that always gets in my way.

    It was pretty cool when I took geometry in high school, though. I can look at a geometry problem and know the answer in a flash. The time it takes me then, is only the time necessary to translate and write it out in mathematical language. I still sometimes have that happen with stories or engineering problems, where an entire feature film comes to me in a flash, and I rush to write it before it fades … or I know how to solve an engineering problem in a flash. It's kinda freaky sometimes.

    And it means my verbal skills are actually pretty bad. I'm much better at typing out a discussion than speaking to people face to face. I absolutely hate phones where there are no visual clues for me.

    I'm rambling aren't I? Sorry. It's just that it's a topic near and dear to my heart.
     
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  8. Kaon

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    This is fascinating (the entire thread so far).

    What about in different languages? Can you speak in a different language?
     
  9. essentialsaltes

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    It's not very natural, but yes. Indeed, since my German ain't that great, unless it's really a reflex like 'Gesundheit', I'm usually mentally rehearsing what I want to say.

    So it's not as immediate like my train of thought is.

    me [read's Kaon's question]
    me [in my head] "Can I think in German?"
    me [in my head] "Kann ich auf Deutsch denken?"

    That second one wasn't really me thinking in German (or was it? maybe it was) but mentally translating something I already said to myself.

    Similarly, after some great effort, I was able to 'translate' my voice into Samuel L Jackson's voice. Not my voice impersonating Sam Jackson, but something that sounds like Sam Jackson's voice the way the timpani sound like timpani. This is even more 'artificial' feeling than thinking in German, and it's hard to sustain for more than a phrase or sentence, and has the same feeling of translating something I was already going to say.

    Probably if I practiced, I imaging fluency in a foreign language would provide 'fluency' in mentalese. So maybe both German and Jackson would be more natural than they are.

    I mean, obviously, I haven't always spoken English and it isn't hardwired into the brain, so at some point English must have been grafted into my mentalese.
     
  10. Chesterton

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    Sound waves are actual things. There are no sound waves entering the ear because of thinking.
     
  11. Kaon

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    Your brain is a receiver, and a transmitter.
     
  12. RaymondG

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    I believe we are saying the same thing....just in different ways. We do not mean to say that our thoughts sound like someone yelling at us from the outside of us.

    Although, I have had visions in which I heard and saw things that I thought were from/on the outside... But this is not what we are talking about for normal thought.

    It is, i guess, an acknowledgement that a word is read... or thought is formulated...that "sounds" like your own voice....
     
  13. Chesterton

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    It transmits by telling the mouth to create sound waves.
     
  14. Kaon

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    It can receive FM Radio waves based on the circuitry; no speaking required.
     
  15. Chesterton

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    I don't know what that has to do with the topic of hearing one's own thoughts, though.
     
  16. Kaon

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    Because if you can receive radio waves from outside sources, you can receive them from internal sources.
     
  17. RaymondG

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    No, it is not the hearing of voices.......It is the conscious speaking and hearing of yourself speak in your head.

    No one has said that they heard a random voice that they could not recognize in their head.

    It is yourself deciding to speak in your head.....as, I once felt before this thread, everyone does, most of the time, when praying.

    Now I have to repent from believing that people, who clasped hands together and mumble before meals, were doing it to be seen....... Now I understand, that they may have no other alternatives..... Either pray aloud....or not at all....
     
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  18. Chesterton

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    Does the brain produce FM radio waves? I've never heard of that.
     
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  19. RaymondG

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    I do consider myself an alien, but not because of this.....for I thought this was common amongst you humans.

    It is not about loudness. You will always be heard in your head no matter what is going on outside. Most likely, I would be thinking, "This is too loud!, I wonder how this will affect my hearing!" And I would hear the full sentence clearly in my head while thinking it.

    I believe we are saying that same thing, just in different ways. How do you know that you thought anything? What we call hearing, is the acknowledgement of your thought. It isnt an audible sound.

    We say speak....you say think. We say hear.....you say that you just know you thought something.

    So now you are seeing things that arent there? Words floating in space? Im sure there is a disorder for that....
     
  20. klutedavid

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    I have never heard an audible voice in my mind except for once in my life. Someone called my name during an extended prayer session.

    There was no mistake that someone called out my name as I heard it. I was alone at the time in the countryside.

    I have met some folk who hear audible voices, so I know that it is a real phenomenon.
     
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