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Do you have to keep confessing sin through out your life to be saved? (See 1 John 1:9)

Do you have to keep confessing sin through out your life to be saved?


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Romans 10:17 KJV So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

Romans 10:8-10 KJV But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; 9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Ephesians 2:8-10 KJV For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

Titus 3:4-7 KJV But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared, 5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; 6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour; 7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV 1. Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2. By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4. And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

This is the milk of the Word. The entrance. The gate to salvation. We as believers have to also progress to the next step (Which is Sanctification - that works in harmony with God's saving grace). For the grace of God teaches us to deny ungodliness and that we should live righteously and godly in this present world (Titus 2:11-12).
 
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No man has ever been saved by the Law, mainly because no man has been able to keep it. A lot of confusion could be avoided if people could realize that many things changed at the Cross. There is a big difference between living under the Law and under Grace. Many people tried to continue living under the Law after the Cross, and they were lost. It's also true that no man has ever been saved by works.

You must rightly divide the Holy Bible if you ever want to understand it. There is a big difference between Scripture for and to Jews and Scripture for and to Gentiles. Good luck if you want to live under the Law. Put the Scripture in context to see who and to it is written. I'm saved by Grace through Faith, and I'm saved for eternity. This is not because of anything I deserve, rather what our Lord Jesus Christ did at the Cross, God's Grace in offering me a wonderful gift, and my Faith in our Lord Jesus Christ.

Real Salvation under Grace through Faith is not on and off again. You can only be saved once. I was baptized into the Body of Christ by the Holy Spirit of God, and He has sealed my heart as a purchased possession of our Lord Jesus Christ. The Holy Spirit Himself is a seal on my heart that can't be broken. Regardless of what you believe, you can't be Saved today and lost tomorrow. You're very confused if that's what you believe. Start by going to the Cross and understanding what happened there. I have Eternal Life because I'm Saved and relying on the promises of God. For those who believe differently, at what point does Eternal Life become a reality?

It is true that no man of his own power was able to keep the Law. We also are not saved by Law Alone, either. We are initially and ultimately saved by God's grace through faith. But after being saved by God's grace, we can overcome grievous sin in this life (See 1 Corinthians 10:13, Romans 13:14, Galatians 5:16, 1 Peter 4:1-2, Galatians 5:24, 2 Corinthians 7:1). This is only possible by the Lord working in a person (Philippians 1:6, Philippians 1:11, Philippians 2:13).
 
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Okay, have any of you RECONCILED
the so-called eternal security verses in the NT
with ...
the NT verses which stand directly opposed to them?

Thanks for your forth-coming truthful responses,
which can be a simple YES or NO.
 
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Okay, have any of you RECONCILED
the so-called eternal security doctrine
with ...
the NT verses which stand directly opposed to it?

Thanks for your forth-coming truthful responses ...

So how many simultaneous OSAS debate threads are going on right now?
 
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Did I miss something? ... Was it a YES or NO?
You didn't miss anything at all. The point was made that there are numerous debate threads going on on the same topic. Are you aware that you are starting your own questions in someone else's thread rather than starting your own? Yes or no?
 
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This is the milk of the Word. The entrance. The gate to salvation. We as believers have to also progress to the next step (Which is Sanctification - that works in harmony with God's saving grace). For the grace of God teaches us to deny ungodliness and that we should live righteously and godly in this present world (Titus 2:11-12).
All saved believers go through the process of sanctification throughout their life time.

Sanctification has little to do with salvation. Sanctification is more related to obedience.
 
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Okay, have any of you RECONCILED
the so-called eternal security verses in the NT
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the NT verses which stand directly opposed to them?

Thanks for your forth-coming truthful responses,
which can be a simple YES or NO.
No... Which means "what" exactly...? What should follow (that)...?
 
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The devils have seen God so what they have is not faith or a belief in God that cannot be proven like we have.

Satan has to go and stand before God and ask permission to attack Job.

So the devils believing and our belief are not the same.
Our belief, our faith, implies supernatural grace and commitment to all that it inspires.
 
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Our belief, our faith, implies supernatural grace and commitment to all that it inspires.
Well my assumption is that you are talking Calvinist theology to me, which I am not.

My belief is more like God can work with even a small smigen of faith and belief. With salvation and the indwelling Holy Spirit, relationship/fellowship, ect... that faith grows.

I don't think God needs a lot of faith to work with. That's why He gives us the Holy Spirit and says we can do all things through Christ. That is our rock that upholds our faith.
 
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Romans 3:19-28 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. 20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. 21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; 22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: 23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; 24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: 25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; 26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus. 27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. 28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

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The Ministry of the Apostle Paul was difficult because the Jews had only known the Law of Moses, and most of them didn't know or understand the difference between works under the Law and works as appreciation to GOD. Circumcision was an act under the Law of Moses, and that's why the Jews were known as the Circumcision in the Holy Bible.

As a contrast, the Gentiles had been viewed as unclean and unfit to share in the Holy Things of GOD, and the Gentiles were known as the Uncircumcision. JESUS CHRIST changed all of this. We must keep in mind that no man was ever able to keep all of the Law, Jew or not, and that's why GOD'S WORD speaks of JESUS CHRIST fulfilling all of the Law most perfectly. Why? HE was GOD made manifest in the flesh and the ONLY one who was ever able to keep all of the Law in perfection and holiness. For the same reason, HE was the only PERFECT AND HOLY ONE able to make a ONCE FOR ALL PERFECT SACRIFICE, one that would be completely Pleasing and Acceptable to GOD the FATHER Forever. GOD was never happy or satisfied with the sacrifices and burnt offerings of men for their sins, but GOD was completely Pleased with the PERFECT SACRIFICE OF CHRIST ON THE CROSS.

Romans 4:1-25 What then shall we say that Abraham, our forefather, hath found according to the flesh? 2 For if Abraham was justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not toward God. 3 For what saith the scripture? And Abraham believed God, and it was reckoned unto him for righteousness. 4 Now to him that worketh, the reward is not reckoned as of grace, but as of debt. 5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is reckoned for righteousness. 6 Even as David also pronounceth blessing upon the man, unto whom God reckoneth righteousness apart from works, 7 saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, And whose sins are covered. 8 Blessed is the man to whom, the Lord will not reckon sin. 9 Is this blessing then pronounced upon the circumcision, or upon the uncircumcision also? for we say, To Abraham his faith was reckoned for righteousness. 10 How then was it reckoned? when he was in circumcision, or in uncircumcision? Not in circumcision, but in uncircumcision: 11 and he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had while he was in uncircumcision; that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be in uncircumcision, that righteousness might be reckoned unto them; 12 and the father of circumcision to them who not only are of the circumcision, but who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham which he had in uncircumcision. 13 For not through the law was the promise to Abraham or to his seed that he should be heir of the world, but through the righteousness of faith. 14 For if they that are of the law are heirs, faith is made void, and the promise is made of none effect: 15 for the law worketh wrath; but where there is no law, neither is there transgression. 16 For this cause it is of faith, that it may be according to grace; to the end that the promise may be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all 17 (as it is written, A father of many nations have I made thee) before him whom he believed, even God, who giveth life to the dead, and calleth the things that are not, as though they were. 18 Who in hope believed against hope, to the end that he might become a father of many nations, according to that which had been spoken, So shall thy seed be. 19 And without being weakened in faith he considered his own body now as good as dead (he being about a hundred years old), and the deadness of Sarah's womb; 20 yet, looking unto the promise of God, he wavered not through unbelief, but waxed strong through faith, giving glory to God, 21 and being fully assured that what he had promised, he was able also to perform. 22 Wherefore also it was reckoned unto him for righteousness. 23 Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was reckoned unto him; 24 but for our sake also, unto whom it shall be reckoned, who believe on him that raised Jesus our Lord from the dead, 25 who was delivered up for our trespasses, and was raised for our justification.

It is not an 'either'/'or' matter. Both require God's supernatural grace. In fact, Faith, Charity and Grace are virtually synonymous, despite their defining differences. The theological or divine virtues, themselves : Faith, Hope and Charity are effectively a continuum, a paradox, a confusion of mutually, logically-repugnant concepts - as you would expect of the deepest truths. Not to mention the ultimate paradox : the Most Holy Trinity.

One of the great, pioneering physicists of quantum mechanics (physics), Niels Bohr, neverf tired of finding ways in which to put over the fact that the deeper they penetrated the truths of QM, the more paradoxical the answers they received to their questions became. Here are a few :

'Opposites are complementary.'

'We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct.'


'Your theory is crazy, but it's not crazy enough to be true.'
(There are many variants)

'How wonderful that we have met with a paradox. Now we have some hope of making progress.'

'Two sorts of truth: profound truths recognized by the fact that the opposite is also a profound truth, in contrast to trivialities where opposites are obviously absurd.'
 
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Okay, have any of you RECONCILED
the so-called eternal security verses in the NT
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the NT verses which stand directly opposed to them?

Thanks for your forth-coming truthful responses,
which can be a simple YES or NO.

Yes. I have and I have come to the conclusion that they are taking those verses out of context and also at the expense of so many other verses in the Bible.
 
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Okay, have any of you RECONCILED
the so-called eternal security verses in the NT
with ...
the NT verses which stand directly opposed to them?

Thanks for your forth-coming truthful responses,
which can be a simple YES or NO.

See my post #213, below, BCs.
 
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But what about those who reject Calvinism and have claimed they had an experience with GOD from the Scriptures? What of them? Does not God reveal truth to these people of God? Are they not aware of the Trinity, the Bible is the sole authority, and other matters of the faith?

Indeed, God does, Jason. Although the demand upon us to evangelise never lets up, I believe as does my RC church, that God always sees to the needs of his 'Anawim', however limited the truths of the particular religion that his own circumstances impose upon him.
 
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Indeed, God does, Jason. Although the demand upon us to evangelise never lets up, I believe as does my RC church, that God always sees to the needs of his 'Anawim', however limited the truths of the particular religion that his own circumstances impose upon him.

I thought you were making a Calvinistic statement, but I re-read your post and seen that your are Catholic, so I deleted my post.

Note: Not that I am in support of the RC church mind you.
 
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Yes. I have and I have come to the conclusion that they are taking those verses out of context and also at the expense of so many other verses in the Bible.
C'mon, which set of verses?
 
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