Do you feelt this way also about an believef in a god?

[Sketcher]

Nope.

 

[Goodman1985]

About what?

Just from being around normal people

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Just from being around normal people

And in your view, what is a "normal" person?

 

[Goodman1985]

And in your view, what is a "normal" person?

People in society, you know the workers

 

[2PhiloVoid]

People in society, you know the workers

So, are you implying here that you feel bad because you don't have a job at the present moment?

 

[Goodman1985]

So, are you implying here that you feel bad because you don't have a job at the present moment?

Yeah

 

[The Righterzpen]

Yeah

That's not an unusual thing to feel bad about. Feeling productive is good for us psychologically.

 

[Goodman1985]

That's not an unusual thing to feel bad about. Feeling productive is good for us psychologically.

Yes, true that

 

[ViaCrucis]

Hi, the more good I do the less I believe in a god because I never get anything in return, do you feel this way also?

From a Lutheran perspective we would argue that the idea that by our good works we can achieve reward from God or improve our station before God is a deathblow to faith--because works don't merit us rewards or divine favor(s). The point of good works isn't to get brownie points, the point of good works is that our neighbor is hungry and so they get fed, our neighbor is naked so they get clothed. The point of good works are the good works themselves--because our fellow human beings and their well-being matters.

If we are doing good works with the idea that we get something out of it, then we aren't really doing good works; we are simply engaging in selfish behavior. And if God isn't in the business of giving us brownie points for actual good works, why would He be in the business of dispensing rewards for selfish, sinful works?

God's love for us is independent of our works. He loves us anyway, because that's who He is.

And so these things are separate from one another: God's kindness toward us is unconditional and for all, not contingent on our works. And so our works are not about reward from God, but for the sake of the good works themselves for the benefit of our neighbor.

When we perform our good works with the idea that we are going to get something in return, whether in this life or in the next; or as though God will give us brownie points, or rewards for our good works then we are not doing good works at all. And so the disparity between what we are and what we ought to be is shown to be immensely vast--the Law of God reveals our sin and our inability to be righteous. The only correct response to that is repentance. The Gospel is that, though sinners, God loves us and Christ died for sinners, and therefore our trust in Him and what He has done is, for us, righteousness--not our own, but God's. And so we find that we are saved by God's loving mercy, grace, and kindness alone, through faith, on account of Christ and what Christ has done alone. God has given us all things in Christ, so that we can trust in Him; and so now, in light of that hope, not relying on ourselves, we can walk a new path to love our neighbor, in the freedom of God's grace.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[MariaJLM]

So you're saying that you expect God to reward you every single time you do a good deed? Isn't that just a little selfish? Oftentimes people do good deeds simply because they're good deeds. In fact, doing good deeds without expectation of reward is actually better.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Yeah

ok. So, are you saying that you've ardently looked for a job, prayed about it, but even after having done so, no employer seems to have considered hiring you?

 

[Goodman1985]

ok. So, are you saying that you've ardently looked for a job, prayed about it, but even after having done so, no employer seems to have considered hiring you?

no, I live on wellfare only

 

[2PhiloVoid]

no, I live on wellfare only

Ok. So, what are the good people of Norway doing for you?

 

[Goodman1985]

Ok. So, what are the good people of Norway doing for you?

Nothing?

 

[Goodman1985]

So you're saying that you expect God to reward you every single time you do a good deed? Isn't that just a little selfish? Oftentimes people do good deeds simply because they're good deeds. In fact, doing good deeds without expectation of reward is actually better.

Actually so did you believers disprove god yourself, yes I`ve seen it on you when you think, you think that normal people like myself don`t believe in a god because we`re smarter, yes I`ve seen it on you when you think and then you laugh a little inside

 

[MariaJLM]

Actually so did you believers disprove god yourself, yes I`ve seen it on you when you think, you think that normal people like myself don`t believe in a god because we`re smarter, yes I`ve seen it on you when you think and then you laugh a little inside

No. I don't laugh at you, I sympathize since I was an atheist for most of my life.

 

[W2L]

Love is the reward. As well as eternal life. We were created to be much more than we can see now. Compared to God the Father/Creator we are children, and like children we don't see the whole picture yet. I have doubted God but then I look at how amazing creation is and I know God is real. Everything, the human body and mind, the amazing creatures, the oceans, outer space, the universe. Its awesome to behold. In my heart I know God is real and the grave wont hold me.

 

[thesunisout]

Hi, the more good I do the less I believe in a god because I never get anything in return, do you feel this way also?

The God who exists rewards those who serve Him, but you are not serving Him. Would you like to learn how to please God?

 

[Goodman1985]

The God who exists rewards those who serve Him, but you are not serving Him. Would you like to learn how to please God?

I don`t really believe there`s any gods but

 

[Neogaia777]

Actually so did you believers disprove god yourself, yes I`ve seen it on you when you think, you think that normal people like myself don`t believe in a god because we`re smarter, yes I`ve seen it on you when you think and then you laugh a little inside

Some of us are just laughing at the whole entire idea of "smarter" ect... not because were laughing at you, but from our own experience and experiences in the past, and the idea was or became "laughable" at a certain point, or from a certain perspective, I guess you could say... please don't take it personal, k...?

We do believe God can "stretch" some to be maybe a little bit more knowledgeable than others, but we do believe it only comes with some and is only so because of God... Or at least that's what we believe or think...

God Bless!