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If God can turn Lot's wife into a pillar of salt, does it surprise you He can make someone look like he went through "thousands of subtle genetic variations identical to eons of independent genetic isolation with a common theme of a extreme cold weather environment."Got blasted into salt for disobedience. Not really the same thing.
It's never a mater of "can", of course he can, he's all powerful.If God can turn Lot's wife into a pillar of salt, does it surprise you He can make someone look like he went through "thousands of subtle genetic variations identical to eons of independent genetic isolation with a common theme of a extreme cold weather environment."
Even King David was punished with some bone-altering "plague wonderful" that was eating him up from the inside (Psalm 38).It's never a mater of "can", of course he can, he's all powerful.
My point is that to extrapolate a verse about "wonderful plagues" as to be about lineages of people being transformed into something very distinctly genetically different to the other humans of their era isn't justifiable from the text.
Still nothing like:Even King David was punished with some bone-altering "plague wonderful" that was eating him up from the inside (Psalm 38).
I think we are talking at cross purposes.Even King David was punished with some bone-altering "plague wonderful" that was eating him up from the inside (Psalm 38).
Well for the record, that's what I think these Neanderthals and Cro-Magna are: men and women who have been smitten with a plague from God.I dispute that connecting this concept to the existence of Neanderthals is justified.
Neanderthals were people whose remains now give the appearance of being victims of punishment (or 'wonderful plagues')?If God can turn Lot's wife into a pillar of salt, does it surprise you He can make someone look like he went through "thousands of subtle genetic variations identical to eons of independent genetic isolation with a common theme of a extreme cold weather environment."
If so it's very unlike other plagues described.Well for the record, that's what I think these Neanderthals and Cro-Magna are: men and women who have been smitten with a plague from God.
Well ... it does say ...If so it's very unlike other plagues described.
(I initially thought that it both affected children and could be passed down would be a problem, but on reflection that is consistent with some other Biblical curses.)
...is this verse also your explanation for the diversity of modern humans?Well ... it does say ...
Deuteronomy 28:59 Then the LORD will make thy plagues wonderful, and the plagues of thy seed, even great plagues, and of long continuance, and sore sicknesses, and of long continuance.
No....is this verse also your explanation for the diversity of modern humans?
We all come from Shem, Ham, or Japheth.Shemjaza said:8 individuals (5 closely related) worth of diversity becoming the variety we see today?
3 full brothers and three women isn't enough genetic diversity to account for modern genetics.No.We all come from Shem, Ham, or Japheth.
This is true.3 full brothers and three women isn't enough genetic diversity to account for modern genetics.
Do you realize that you lose all of your "Challenges" on the first page? Genesis has two bottlenecks in them. Both of them should be obvious not just in man's genome, but in the genome of every species on the planet. That we do not see those events in the genomes tell us that they did not happen.
Some questions...
If you think it's wrong, can you tell me which one exactly do you think is incorrect?
- Do you agree that if you have a group of animals - say a herd of zebra - then each individual will be slightly different to the others?
- Do you agree [...]
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What is mistaken is that you overlook the fact that a member of a given species, can predict selection pressure and survive dormantly while the old selection pressure wears out. So what was a disadvantage for several generations, becomes an advantage with the advent of the new selection pressure.
It's not Evolution, it's anticipating one evolution will give way to another.
So yes, as for agreeing that some members of a species are different, what is missing is the notion of which context the species are different in, in principle. Claiming survival is merely of the fittest, elides the fact that it is a question of which degree, also. Herd immunity is boosted by this idea, not challenged - as much as complaints that apes are like us, would confuse the issue.
Gottservant said:what was a disadvantage for several generations, becomes an advantage with the advent of the new selection pressure
The subtext is that this happens if the new selection pressure is "properly anticipated".
Your saying it cannot be anticipated, is unscientific - how do you prove, nothing can be anticipated "before it is evolved"?
If you do, are you not suggesting that Evolution cannot be anticipated before it is "evolved": the very opposite of what it was said "Darwin did"??
The genus never changes. Species have occasionally been misattributed to the wrong genus, but evolution doesn't change the genus.You can add a hundred new species; but if you change the Genus then you're changing the Kind.
Neither - it's just a retelling of an ancient morality tale.Do you think there were coyotes and domestic dogs on the Ark? or just wolves?
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