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Sounds like you 2 finally agreeOf course not. When we sin we break the Law of God..
Nah I can't keep it.
if I could I wouldn't need Jesus
Hopefully sooner than laterDude.
Keeping the Law was NEVER meant to give ANYONE salvation.
Messiah's death = REDEMPTION
Law of God = INSTRUCTION
Redemption does NOT replace Instruction.
Instruction does NOT replace Redemption.
One of these days, someone will finally understand this concept.
God did NOT give His Law, so that men could keep it in order to earn salvation.
So it seems to me that not sinning is following the law no matter how or by who it is acomplished it that correct?Of course not. When we sin we break the Law of God.
Breaking the Law is going to happen as long as we have this mortal and sinful body that loves to sin.
But keeping, obeying and following God's Law is when righteous believers, adhere to and obey the will of God outlined in ALL of His Word (Including the Law).
Will we fail and miss the mark? Absolutely. But will we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid!
Keeping and Obedience to the Law of God does NOT equal "PERFECTION".
It means living a life according to God's Word. It means, when you mess up and miss the mark, you set it right and do better next time.
This is why it says "line upon line" "precept upon precept". It's not about "perfectly" following the letter of the law, trying to get everything right.
But rather an inward obedience, that automatically manifests into outward obedience to the Perfect Will of God.
If I try to move a finger in obedience with my own strength...it would be in vain.
But with the Help of His Spirit, I am able to walk according to His Will and His Ways.
Because at the end of the day, I am a child of God, encouraged and instructed to walk according to His Word.
So this must be part time obedience by either example you gave. It kinda like being sorta pregnant. Either you are or your not. There is no inbetween if you're pregnant.It's like speeding.
Every time I speed, I am breaking the Law and NOT keeping the Law.
Consciously or unconsciously.
Every time I drive the speed limit, I am keeping the Law.
Same thing with God's Word.
If His Word says, children obey and honor your parents...and I obey and honor my parents, I am keeping/guarding/obeying God's Word.
If I dishonor my parents, I am breaking/going against God's Word and Will.
Well you make some good points about the law. Now why do you insist we keep it? No one here that I've read suggests or tells people to sin. The law people say ther grace people do though. I still haven't seen such a post by the grace people. Please point it out.Dude.
Keeping the Law was NEVER meant to give ANYONE salvation.
Messiah's death = REDEMPTION
Law of God = INSTRUCTION
Redemption does NOT replace Instruction.
Instruction does NOT replace Redemption.
One of these days, someone will finally understand this concept.
God did NOT give His Law, so that men could keep it in order to earn salvation.
James 4:11 Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge.
Now that is a good one!
Yepperz!Now that is a good one!
Ah rats. I was betting we would see Chris Bot and get to start all over again.Yepperz!
Case closed.....
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Yeah.....ChrisBot is kewlAh rats. I was betting we would see Chris Bot and get to start all over again.
So complain because people don't take your view as their own. This type of approach shows lack of validity in an argument. I really don't like the poor little o me attitude. It gets automatic dismissal from me.
James 4:11 Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge.
Now that is a good one!
Yepperz!
Case closed.....
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Well to be safe I won't say much becasue it is taken as a personal attack.There was this response to my post two pages back:
I do not care about any sympathy or compassion from you. There are enough passages from scripture that establishes the truth of the things I say, what I have showm from it gets to be disregarded by those posting with your view.
This was one good case for scriptural passages establishing the truth of things I hsve beem saying which have been argued against, and this would make it conclusive.
Ah rats. I was betting we would see Chris Bot and get to start all over again.
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